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£1,000 to spend on A/V Reciever, take a look at my short list pls!

Discussion in 'AV Receivers & Amplifiers' started by n0s, Oct 1, 2005.

  1. n0s

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    I need a reciever to power my new 6.1 Focal.JMLab (3 x Sib XL + 3 x Sib) setup.
    I want all the latest features on my reciever, but for now HDMI isnt THAT important seeing as i use a HTPC which has a DVI running straight to my projector. I would like a few compent inputs for PS2 and Satellite Box.

    I have a few choices:

    Denon 3805
    Denon 3806
    Arcam AV300
    Marantz 7500
    Marantz 8500
    Yamaha RX-V2600

    Any im missing??

    Oh and do any of these amps upscale composite/s-video/component (480i) up to 720p component, i dont care about HDMI i need it to upconvert to component as well.

    Thanks Guys
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    I would replace the Yamaha RXV2600 in that list with the RXV4600.
     
  3. n0s

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    Ok ill check that one out as well, but what im really curious is how they stack up against each other, this will not be for listening to hours of stereo music, i just want a kick ass movie reciever!
     
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    Pioneer ?
     
  5. n0s

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    Never really been a pioneer fan to be honest i know about the VSX-AX5Ai-S but im not too keen on it.
     
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    The Denon 3805 is a great machine. The Arcam AVR300 is amazing when setup right (takes time :) ) and is my current amp of choice.
     
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    You'd be mad not to at least demo an Arcam.
     
  8. pragmatic

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    There all good and to be honest i doubt there a bad one in the bunch, you should find the yamaha 2500/2600 for cheaper than most of the others while still having the performance and with the 2600 more features.

    The marantz is always suggested for a music leaning while the arcam is considered a more musical than movie (although i'm sure many might disagree).

    Demo which ones you can and try and get a good price, go for looks and features otherwise as only a demo will tell you how they sound to you.
     
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    the 3805 is very nice for movies, demo'd that myself (i own a 3803 but cant afford to upgrad now...waaaaa...i want denonlink...waaaa...lol)


    best bet would be demo them all, if you like the denons, see how much difference u get out of the 3805 to the 3806 (i think its out now).....if there isnt much and the connectivity is the same, u should be able to pick up the 3805 relatively cheap...give u some money left towards other stuff..lol
     
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    Why the 4600 over the 2600?
     
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    NAD T773..... Minimum 110w per 7 channels, 230w Dynamic Power.
     
  12. n0s

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    I like the NAD T773 but it doesnt have all the latest codecs, such as Dolby ProLogic IIx which i really want.
     
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    4600 is the more expensive brother with a better amp section and more features than the 2500, the 2600 has in some regards leapfrogged the 4600's features (it has upconversion to HDMI were as i don't think the 4600 has).
     
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    The NAD T773 is now running Version 2.0 software including DD/PL IIx

    http://207.228.230.231/manual/NAD-T773_Addendum.pdf
     
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    Now that i didnt know, i think i may have to consider this one now, i have always liked NAD.

    Thanks Andy
     
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    Arcam AVR300
    Marantz 8500
    Rorel 1056
    Denon 3805
    Nad 773

    I would say by this order IMHO
     
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    I think it would depend on what speakers you were driving, say for example B&W 604 i think some may be lacking in power to get the best out of them, if smaller speakers were used this would not be an issue.
     
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    Ill be using a Focal.JMLab setup, 3 x Sib XL at the front and 3 x Sib at the back.
     
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    wouldnt worry about power output then.
     
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    Marantz 7500 then.
     
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    They can handle 100W so i want a reciever that actaully outputs 100w in 7 channel mode, not 50W like alot of recievers outhere seem to do that claim to output alot more.
     
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    The difference between 50w and 100w really won't be that much with respect to volume. It will alow the amp to have better control but most people will tell you that all channels driven pretty much no amp will reach its claimed and it really doesn't matter that much.
     
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    The NAD will definitely do rated power and will easily drive the most difficult speakers :). 2p's from experience.
     
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    Yeah im pretty tempted by the NAD, its just there is so much choice :D I am leaning towards the Denon 3806 though... Damm why is buying equipment so hard!!!
     
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    I don't know why you don't consider the yamaha (unless you don't like the redesigned look) if past experiece is anything to go by, the 2500 is everything the 3805 with even more features, the only thing missing to my knowledge is the ad hoc bi-amping fronts.
    With the 2600 this is bought to another level with even better conectivity and if my 2500 is anything to go by pure direct is amazing, just sounds so good.
     
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    Im actually considering the Yamaha V4600 as well as the Denon 3806 and the NAD 773 and the Marantz 8500, i cant decide yet, unfortunatley, where i live they have to be ordered, so its no like i can test them all at home and just keep one, so i have to go on people opinions :)
     
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    I would't pair Denon with Focal...

    And as for satellites I would go for a Maratnz 7500 maximum... or even a 5500...
     
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    Is there a reason why you would not pair Denon with focal, and why the 7500 is a maximum?
     
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    if you cant listen to them, then the best thing you can do is to find out each companys generic tendancy to sound, consider how that impacts with the speakers you have, then do the same with the picture, then consider which one has the most features that you are likely to find useful now and in the future......then take all these and you will find it easier to decide, besides, any of these you get to be honest i doubt you will be unhappy...lol

    to help out....

    in my opinion, Denons tend to lean towards the warmer end of the sound scale, but with good definition and a nice wide, layered soundstage....

    picture wise im still newish to this game, but i've no complaints with my 3910 and 3803 either on my TV or my projector...just watched gladiator, looked stunning, vivid but true colours, good motion, nice contrast....so i'd say denons lean more towards a solid and colourful picture.....but mebbe a little bit flat compared to some i've seen.....i dont know if this is the amp affecting it as it routes through it or the projector or the player.....havnt had enough time to play around with connections..lol

    featurewise they are fairly heavily laden, the biggie bonus is Denonlink, wish my 3803 had it (it has the same backplate, theres a little cover over the hole where denonlink goes...lol...wonder if denon can fix it in? anyone know?), however they do not have a massive array of surround modes, but the ones they have are adjustable....i tend to stick with just DD or DTS for movies tho, only with PC or consoles do i muck about with the in-house surround modes.

    not going to comment on what the other companies tend to be like as i have only heard them on occasion in Demo rooms and found i preferred the Denon sound with my Monitor Audio speakers....but hopefully other people will give as neutral a comment on the generic sound/vision/features each company leans towards (oh and a nice welcome back to Audiolab, i did hear their stuff from a few years ago before Tag got their mitts on them, i hope they come back to full form of the past...nice neutral sound, nothing added or taken away, u got what the source gave and the speakers put out)
     
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    Thanks for your helpfull words, my room isnt ideal for HT, wood floors etc, so a warmer sound will probably be the best bet, to be honest i think that the Denon 3806 or the NAD T773 seem to be the front runners, though the new Yamaha 2600 does offer scaling to 720p which is a nice feature. So i am yet to make my final decision.

    More opinions like those above would be sooo appreciated :)
     

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