Discussion in 'Xbox 360' started by Osirian08, May 23, 2012.
Story courtesy of MCV :-
Judge recommends Xbox 360 ban in US | Games industry news | MCV
Xbox 360 Could be Banned for Motorola Patent Infringement
Good I hope it gets banned world wide for them not returning my points after my account got hacked.
Love you Motorola
Seems a bit extreme
Surely worst comes to the worst and Microsoft just pull out some cash from the war chest and make Motorola go away.
Or everyone will use the USB controller
I honestly dont understand how these things are allowed to happen?
Surely MS' people cant be that stupid as to breech patents, etc?
Sounds like MS are willing to fight their corner on this rather than settle out of court, which could go either way.
Its not really anything to do with the controller.
Its a FRAND dispute on the H.264 processing Microsoft use in the Xbox.
Motorola hold the patent but under FRAND have to license it at a reasonable rate. Motorola claim this to be 2.25% of each console sold (microsoft estimates this to be around $4,000,000,000 annually). Microsoft are saying this % is not in keeping with FRAND.
So are MS saying that their annual xbox sales are around $200 billion a year or is that amount to cover the whole of the time from launch to now?
I assume so only going off the reports on tinternet
Odd that its a percentage and quite a high one at that. Percentage will adversely hurt the more expensive cutting edge technology/hardware which clearly h.264 support has minimal actual impact on. I mean whilst H.264 might be an important part of a product it does not make up any of the manufacturing cost of that product (the hardware), so why should they get a percentage of the unit price?
I also seem to remember reading somewhere that the average mobile phone contained hundreds of patents. If thats true and they all asked for a percentage of unit sold, how can the original manufacture ever make a profit?
If they all asked for a percentage, even just 1%, a hundred patents would wipe out the sale price. The only way it could work is if its based on manufactured price, with the company able to add additional cost to cover the patent charges.
No wonder electronic goods cost so much these days
I think that's why Microsoft are arguing the % Motorola wants is to high they are happy to pay just not that amount
Isnt this going to the White House for final decision???
Does anyone actually think that a President will Ban an Xbox 360 in his own country?? The economic climate says it wont happen,and the number of voters at that core voting age how many will say ta ra Obama Millions.
Never going to happen.......also havent Google bought Motorola???
Well in that case I hope Moto bleeds them dry. I'd still love it was banned but since money makes the world go round I guess Moto will settle on a payout from MS
Why on earth would you want it to be banned?
His gamertag got hacked and he lost some MS points, so I guess he feels that an appropriate punishment for that is Microsoft paying $4 billion in fees or having their business harmed to the tune of several billion, haha.
The fee that Motorola (or Google, more accurately I guess, now that they own them) are demanding is ridiculous. MS pay $6.5 million a year to the companies that own over 2,000 patents on H.264, which is a capped figure, but even uncapped it would be about $60 million. Motorola want $4 billion for the 50 or so patents that they own?? Not just that, but they are fighting to block the sale of products (and not just Microsoft's) that will do harm to competing businesses. That's not "fair, reasonable and non-discriminatory".
Although it looks like ms is hitting back with forcing Google/Motorola to stop using the SMS messaging service over 160 characters which would be a disaster according to some sources, can't mind where I read that but one of the news sites had something on it recently
Edit - was on BBC news app
No idea link is broke and looks like you're trying to hot link as well which isn't allowed.
Because he's a buffoon
According to atheists and Darwinist's Human's descended from Ape like Buffoons. Since I am not a believer in of them and the chances are you are I think the probability is that you're most likely like one.
Darwin > creationism
So you admit you were an ape then, thanks
Troll Halfwit.. I'm ashamed you're from manc. Please leave .
Roll on 515
Whatever floats your boat, I'll leave you to monkey around on your own.
Oh thats a good one...
It'll get settled. Just matter of cash
Microsoft will just say "here you go Motorola,here's a big sack of cash,now please go away and play nicely"
Someone posted a hot linked image, guess a mod deleted the post and now I look a fool!
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