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Sony EX523/EX524/EX723/EX723 Owners Thread - Bravia 2011 Edge LED Models

Discussion in 'LCD & LED LCD TVs' started by NX3, Oct 17, 2011.

  1. Paul Cooksley

    Paul Cooksley Member

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    Well, on the two sets (EX723 46" versions) that I have had recently, the "Eco" setting dims the picture considerably. So much so, in fact, for an LCD, it's impossible to watch. I should think this, coupled with the backlight on "4" would be impossible to watch on my set!

    As I previously mentioned in posts on page 1 of this thread, I find the blacks to be "very black" or "too black" on this particular set, so I don't have a problem with this on mine.... thing is, the picutre on darker scenes seems to auto dim (not so that you notice the fluctuation but as I say, blacks seems too black) and ruins the picture on darker scenes. My retailer is coming back on Wednesday to have a look as I now find the need to turn the brightness up to 60-ish which means I see the excessive clouding on the left hand side of the screen.

    No win situation for me at the moment! ;)
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    Thumbs up for creating this :) as I've just bought the EX723 55".
    Love it :)
    Can't see no probs at the mo.
    Tested the 3D of Tron (amazing).
    Avatar on Sky movies was on luckly in HD. (wooooooowwww).
    Amazing picture on PS3 (blue ray Dark Knight).:)
    Games look amazing and I have got to mention Batman Arkham was incredible in 3D.
    While typing this Im watching F1 in HD.textures/colours are just incredible to look at.

    Will keep u posted :)
  3. Paul Cooksley

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    What settings for brightness/contrast etc are you using? What picture mode?
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    Well.i noticed the settings were set to normal.
    Just played about.
    Found a picture setting called VIVID which is strong colour etc.
    But im just playing with the settings at the mo.
    Will send a settings list when I have it 1oo%

    chelsea/Arse game was on. The picture is just outstanding. I LOVE IT
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    No one should seriously use the 'Vivid' option!
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    Haven't tried the 3D yet because I heard that the 3D is seriously bad. Maybe not then?
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    Thats strange. Because in a dark room, I'm struggling to get black to be close to black.

    On Freeview I have the following settings:
    Backlight - 4
    Contrast - Max
    Brightness - 47
    Colour - 51
    Temperature - Neutral
    Sharpness - 85
    Noise Reduction - Off
    MPEG - Off
    Dot Noise - Auto
    Motionflow - Clear
    Fim Mode - Auto 1
    Advanced - All Off except:
    Clear White - High
    White Balance R Gain = -3
    G Gain = -1
    B Gain = 0
    R Bias = -2
    G Bias = -1
    B Bias = -2

    Eco - On

    Blu-Ray
    Backlight - 3
    Contrast - Max
    Brightness - 50
    Colour - 55
    Hue - 0
    Colour Temperature - Warm 1
    Sharpness - 90
    MPEG - Off
    Dot Noise - Off
    Motionflow - Clear
    Fim Mode - Auto 2
    Advanced - All Off
    White Balance - As above

    Let me know what you think. Hope it helps someone!
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    Y Not??????
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    Vivid modes are known to exaggerate colours/contrast to an artificial level - something most people like to avoid as makes the picture look too un-natural.

    However, if it looks good to you, then use this mode!
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    I like the BR setting
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    Vivid mode is what they use in shops to show off their TV's. If you use it at home then you will certainly not get the best out of your TV. But, as mentioned earlier, if you like it, then use it.
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    Right.
    Choose the vivid option and than change each setting to how it looks to you.

    Just got 3 people round to give reviews on normal/BR setting/vivid (with changes).

    All 3 likes Vivid and me :)

    Sticking to this at the mo.:)
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    Cheers creaky :)
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    Sharpness - 90! doesn't that look really grainy? At most i would have it on 50, zero for blu ray as Sharpness only adds grain and is artificial. Unless 50 is medium on Sony sets but it wasn't on the one i had a play with.

    Aaron
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    Avforums review.

    Sony EX723 (KDL- 37EX723) 37 Inch 3D LED LCD TV Review | AVForums.com - UK Online

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    Can anyone reccomend an external portable hard drive for this tele please? How many hours of recording would I get from a 500gb hd? Thanks in advance
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    Totally agree. Nice description found on Crutchfield:-

    Sharpness could more accurately be called "artificial edge enhancement," and generally only improves the look of lower-quality signals like standard broadcast, cable, and satellite programs. Increasing the sharpness is like turning up the treble control on your receiver; you may think you're getting more detail, but the result is definitely not more accurate. Having Sharpness set too high often creates halos around the edges of objects onscreen. Many DVD movies already have edge-enhancement added during mastering, so you can generally turn Sharpness nearly to zero for your DVD input. Sharpness is also not needed for most HDTV sources.
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    Thanks for that, that is a very good explanation. :smashin:

    Aaron
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    Good explanation, but if I turn my sharpness down too much then it takes away the benefits of Blu-Ray a little and produces a soft picture. There is no noise on the picture. I suppose its personal taste?!
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    Just don't watch it with Vivid in a darkened room or at night with the lights off otherwise you can kiss goodbye to eyesight!!! :p
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    Ha cheers :).
    So can anyone else share there settings as I would love to try them out :)
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    Flatpanels HD settings, warm 2 again though but as you said play around switch to normal if its to warm (guessing if you like vivid which i think uses cool then warm is always going to look red tinted to you.)

    Could try switching from cool, then normal then warm etc to get used to it slowly. I did this with my nans tv which had been left in dynamic mode (equivalent to vivid) but it kept giving me a headache. Asked if i could change settings and when i did they said to red and to dull so had to put it back, so when they weren't looking little by little dimmed it down to the settings they said they didn't like and guess what no complaints and they keep saying how much they love it.;)

  26. Paul Cooksley

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    Does anyone know (with regard especially to the 46" EX723) what panels are used on these sets?

    I've got a replacement panel coming for my set (due to excessive clouding) so I am hoping its going to be better than the one I have currently!
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    Its an S-PVA (Super Patterned vertical alignment);)

    http://www.avforums.com/forums/14610528-post481.html
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    To perhaps, kind of, answer my own question, I found this within an online review of the 55" 723:-

    "Like its predecessors, the Sony Bravia EX723 uses a matte PVA panel made by Sony-Samsung, although the smaller 37'' version uses MVA technology."

    Are these supposed to be good panels?
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    No worries, S-PVA has deeper blacks 4000-1 native (some are now reaching 5000-1 native) vs 3000-1 MVA and 1000-1 AS-IPS (LG panel), better colour accuracy and viewing angle than MVA panel types.

    But can suffer worse with clouding, sorry to say. Still there are good ones out there hope you get lucky mate. :)

    Just to let you know i am going to be ordering a Sony 40NX723 over the weekend (just going to have one more look first).:smashin:
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