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Sky cards - using in other Sky boxes, pairing, etc

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  1. davemurgatroyd2

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    Sky subscription cards when initially activated are paired to the box they were activated in. Once activated they can be used to a more or less limited extent depending on your subscription in any other Sky box without the need for pairing to the other box. Pairing is definitely required to view Premium channels and full use of Sky+ functions. Playback of all but recordings from unencrypted channels is limited to recordings made with that card (or previously paired card when cards are swapped for a new issue).

    With unpaired cards you can view any channel you subscribe to except Premium channels (Sky Movies and Sky Sports).

    With unpaired cards you can view any recordings made with any card on unencrypted channels and providing the card has Sky+ active on it you can make new recordings from unencrypted channels. If the card was previously used in the box and has now been paired to a new box providing it still has a valid subscription for the channel concerned you can use it to view any recordings from non premium channels made when that card was in the box (to view previous recordings made with that card on premium channels then the card will need "re-pairing" with the box and then afterwards "re-pairing" to its new box.

    Sky unless a mistake has been made when card was issued will only change the regionalisation of subscription cards if you move to a different address within a different region - they will NOT normally do this on FreesatFromSky or cancelled subscription cards.

    With FreesatFromSky or expired subscription cards once activated pairing is not required and Sky will not normally do so. Current active white cards will allow viewing of the up to 10 FTV channels and regionalise the channels according to the postcode it was issued to. Old blue with yellow house cards will still regionalise the box and put Five on the EPG but will not allow viewing of the FTV channels (which will in some regions include ITV1 and Five). As an aside my old yellow house cards now replaced with new white cards which had Sky+ active on them will still allow playback of recordings made with any card on any box of non-encrypted channels.

    All activev cards FSFS or subscription require regular "keep alive" signals from the satellite so need connection to a dish and box being connected to the mains at very regular intervals otherwise the card will go to sleep and take some time (up to 72 hours) to fully wake up and on the latest white cards it has been reported that some require a phone call to Sky to re-activate.
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    Many thanks for taking the time and trouble to compile that excellent description. :thumbsup:

    Ideally that should stop all the card queries, except that we all know members just won't use the search facility! :devil:

    Perhaps it should be made a sticky?
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    The only things I think need adding

    All Sky viewing cards can be completely turned off by Sky particularly if the card is known or suspected to being used outside the British Isles. This has happened in the past to all cards known to have been supplied to dealers operating in the "grey market" (selling cards and arranging subscriptions across Europe)

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    Sky viewing cards (FreesatFromSky and cancelled or active subscription) can be used in other non Sky receivers under the following two circumstances

    1 Linux (and a couple of other specialist enthusiast boxes) receivers with a multicrypt card reader and the appropriate software. All FTV and subscribed channels should be available BUT AFAIK you cannot order Box Office or PPV events. Some of these receivers will also pass the "keep alive" signal through to the viewing card.

    2 Receivers with a CI (Common Interface) slot and a Diablo 2 CAM (Conditional Access Module with inbuilt card reader) and the appropriate software on the CAM. AFAIK all FTV and subscribed channels are available but again no Box Office/PPV events. This combination will NOT pass the "keep alive" signal through to the card.

    For combinations that do not pass the "keep alive" signal through to the card you will need to house the card overnight in a Sky digibox in standby at least connected to a dish aligned on 28 East every couple of weeks otherwise the card will go to sleep and need reawakening/reactivating (see above for more details on this)

    I stress this is current information for the present white cards and may well change in the future if Sky activate further anti card sharing measures which are rumoured to exist in this present encryption system or they issue a new generation of viewing cards with a new encryption system (which again are rumoured to being trialled by Sky in Italy). This would render any of these systems at least temporarily non functioning.

    Note also that the Diablo CAM if it does not come with appropriate software pre-loaded or requires updating in the future will also require a CAS3 programmer to load software to the CAM.
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    Some receivers make it easier than 2.
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