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PHILIPS 2011 - 9000 Series Smart LED TV

Discussion in 'LCD & LED LCD TVs' started by Tech Man, Mar 8, 2011.

  1. molhopicante

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    How many scarts have the 9706 - 32''?

    Thanks.
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    There will also be a PFL9606 interesting, didn't noticed that before.

    Here is the full line up.

    The only difference seems to be in the LED zones, 9706 has 224 while 9606 112, it's thickness, it's not as slim as 9706 and it does not have a anti glare foil like 9706, but it's interesting that it has ambilight spectra 3 xl like 9706.

    Maybe it will be a better value then 9706, we will see.
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    The 9606 range also seems to go up a size, topping out at 52" rather than the 46" of the 9706, and both seem to have the 'moth eye' nanostructure filter on the screen.

    I would be interested to see how much difference the extra LED lighting zones actually makes to real world viewing...


    The Moog
  5. walmo

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    It's gone awfully quiet on the 9706, any news updates anyone?
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    Again the problem here is timing. The early bird takes the warm. It looks like a nice line-up and they got a reasonably large screen 52''. I would prefer 55 or 60 but 52 might be just the ticket, specially when there are so few competitors. Full LED are very few. LG nano passive ones, Sony HX and the only credible competitor was Toshiba ZL1 which will not be coming to the UK. Seemly the UK market does not have enough money nevertheless they are selling it in Spain. I think Toshiba headquarters in Japan should sack the UK headquarters. The only ones which are in the UK market at the moment are the Sony ones. Hopefully Philips will get the new ones into the market sooner rather than later. I will write the 52PFL9606 into the consider list.
  7. Tech Man

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    Some news:

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    150,000,000:1 Contrast
    1.2MHz Scan (panel is actually 200Hz)

    Available August (so that's September or later) for €2,699.

    Others:
    32PFL9606 at 1.299,99 €
    37PFL9606 at 1.399,99 €
    52PFL9606 at 2.999,99 €
  8. Har-One

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    Thanks for that:smashin:. I thought Philips was packing good-bye because this was getting quieter than a cemetery.
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    Asked Philips for a release date in UK and advised August. New 7 series TV's are now on their web site
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    I see the 9706 has a reported response time of 0.5ms compared to the 9705 which has a response time of 1ms. Any experts out there reckon that this will make a big difference with regards to motion? I watch my 9705 without PNM on and the motion is starting to look pretty poor in my eyes, am I likely to see any difference with the 0.5ms difference?
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    9705 also had 0.5ms read specs here:- Philips - 9000 series LED TV 117 cm (46") Full HD 1080p digital TV - 46PFL9705H/12 - 9000 series - Televisions - Sound and vision

    I think the 9706 uses the same Sharp LCD panel as the 9705.

    I gave up on the 9705 and got a refund from philips a couple of months ago. Just waiting for the 46" 9706 now.
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    It's just going to have all the same problems though isn't it? Using the same screen being assembled at the same plant just makes me presume the dirty screen effect will continue. I wish Philips would release a plasma tv with ambilight.
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    Possibly, but with a new faster chipset installed in the 9706, there might be a glimmer of hope.

    The software will probably be all new as well, rather than trying to add new features to the old 9705 software, with all it's inherent bugs.

    After all even Sony can't manage a good top of the range "Flagship" TV these days.
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    No one can manage a flag-ship TV these days. We are very demanding as customers these days, and even the smallest glitch gets known all over the world instantly...
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    All the new 9000 models can be found here: Home - Royal Philips

    Only the Philips lithuania site has them. Very strange!
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    model         resolution    din.contrast            IFC   res.time                      backlight          ambilight      3D    Smart TV   PVR     Wi-Fi  HDMI  USB      тuners       color           sound
    58PFL9956 21:9 2560 x 1080  500,000:1    450cd/m²   600Hz  2.0ms  Pixel Precise HD     Edge-Lit LED        Spectra 3
    50PFL7956 21:9 2560 x 1080  500,000:1    450cd/m²   400Hz  2.0ms  Pixel Precise HD     Edge-Lit LED        Spectra 3
    
    46PFL9706     1920x1080   100,000,000:1  450cd/m²   400Hz  0.5ms  Perfect Pixel HD       LED Pro           Spectra XL    active     Y       Y      built    4    2    DVB-T/C/S2     титан           2x20W 
    
    52PFL9606     1920x1080   5,000,000:1    500cd/m²   400Hz  0.5ms  Perfect Pixel HD       LED Pro           Spectra XL    active     Y       Y      built    4    2    DVB-T/C/S2     титан           2x20W 
    46PFL9606     1920x1080   5,000,000:1    450cd/m²   400Hz  0.5ms  Perfect Pixel HD       LED Pro           Spectra XL    active     Y       Y      built    4    2    DVB-T/C/S2     титан           2x20W 
    40PFL9606     1920x1080   5,000,000:1    450cd/m²   400Hz  0.5ms  Perfect Pixel HD       LED Pro           Spectra XL    active     Y       Y      built    4    2    DVB-T/C/S2     титан           2x20W 
    37PFL9606     1920x1080     500,000:1    450cd/m²   400Hz  1.0ms  Perfect Pixel HD     Edge-Lit LED        Spectra 3     active     Y       Y      built    4    2    DVB-T/C/S2     титан           2x25W
    32PFL9606     1920x1080     500,000:1    450cd/m²   400Hz  1.0ms  Perfect Pixel HD     Edge-Lit LED        Spectra 3     active     Y       Y      built    4    2    DVB-T/C/S2     титан           2x20W
    
    52PFL8606     1920x1080     500,000:1    450cd/m²   200Hz    1ms  Perfect Pixel HD       Edge LED          Spectra 2     active     Y       Y      built    4    2    DVB-T/Т2/C/S2  титан           2x20W   
    46PFL8686     1920x1080     500,000:1    450cd/m²   200Hz    1ms  Perfect Pixel HD       Edge LED          Spectra 2     active     Y       Y      built    4    2    DVB-T/Т2/C/S2  титан           2x16W 
    46PFL8606     1920x1080     500,000:1    450cd/m²   200Hz    1ms  Perfect Pixel HD       Edge LED          Spectra 2     active     Y       Y      built    4    2    DVB-T/   
    40PFL8606     1920x1080     500,000:1    450cd/m²   200Hz    1ms  Perfect Pixel HD       Edge LED          Spectra 2     active     Y       Y      built    4    2    DVB-T/   
    37PFL8606     1920x1080     500,000:1    450cd/m²   200Hz    1ms  Perfect Pixel HD       Edge LED          Spectra 2     active     Y       Y      PTA01    4    2    DVB-T/   
    32PFL8606     1920x1080     500,000:1    450cd/m²   200Hz    1ms  Perfect Pixel HD       Edge LED          Spectra 2     active     Y       Y      built    4    2    DVB-T/   
    
    55PFL7606     1920x1080     500,000:1    450cd/m²   200Hz    2ms  Pixel Precise HD       Edge LED          Spectra 2    passive     Y       Y      PTA01    4    2    DVB-T/C         титан           2x14W  
    47PFL7696     1920x1080     500,000:1    450cd/m²   200Hz    2ms  Pixel Precise HD       Edge LED          Spectra 2    passive     Y       Y      PTA01    4    2    DVB-T/C         титан           2x14W
    47PFL7606     1920x1080     500,000:1    450cd/m²   200Hz    2ms  Pixel Precise HD       Edge LED          Spectra 2    passive     Y       Y      PTA01    4    2    DVB-T/C         титан           2x
    42PFL7606     1920x1080     500,000:1    450cd/m²   200Hz    2ms  Pixel Precise HD       Edge LED          Spectra 2    passive     Y       Y      PTA01    4    2    DVB-T/C         титан           2x12W
    42PFL7486     1920x1080     500,000:1    450cd/m²   200Hz    2ms  Pixel Precise HD       Edge LED          Spectra 2       N        Y       Y      PTA01    4    2    DVB-T/C         титан           2x14W
    42PFL7456     1920x1080     500,000:1    450cd/m²   200Hz    2ms  Pixel Precise HD       Edge LED          Spectra 2       N        Y       Y      PTA01    4    2    DVB-T/C         черен           2x14W
    42PFL7406     1920x1080     500,000:1    450cd/m²   200Hz    2ms  Pixel Precise HD       Edge LED          Spectra 2       N        Y       Y      PTA01    4    2    DVB-T/C         титан           2x12W
    37PFL7606     1920x1080     500,000:1    450cd/m²   200Hz    2ms  Pixel Precise HD       Edge LED          Spectra 2    passive     Y       Y      PTA01    4    2    DVB-T/C         титан           2x
    32PFL7606     1920x1080     500,000:1    450cd/m²   200Hz    2ms  Pixel Precise HD       Edge LED          Spectra 2    passive     Y       Y      PTA01    4    2    DVB-T/C         титан           2x
    32PFL7486     1920x1080     500,000:1    450cd/m²   200Hz    2ms  Pixel Precise HD       Edge LED          Spectra 2       N        Y       Y      PTA01    4    2    DVB-T/C         титан           2x14W
    32PFL7476     1920x1080     500,000:1    450cd/m²   200Hz    2ms  Pixel Precise HD       Edge LED          Spectra 2       N        Y       Y      PTA01    4    2    DVB-T/C         сребрист        2x14W
    
    
    46PFL6806     1920x1080     500,000:1    400cd/m²   200Hz    2ms  Pixel Plus HD          Edge LED          Spectra 2       N        Y       Y      PTA01    3    1    DVB-T/C         бял
    40PFL6806     1920x1080     500,000:1    400cd/m²   200Hz    2ms  Pixel Plus HD          Edge LED          Spectra 2       N        Y       Y      PTA01    3    1    DVB-T/C         бял
    
    
    55PFL6606     1920x1080     500,000:1    400cd/m²   100Hz    2ms  Pixel Plus HD          Edge LED              N           N        Y       Y      PTA01    3    1    DVB-T/C         Черен алуминий   2x10W
    46PFL6606     1920x1080     500,000:1    400cd/m²   100Hz    2ms  Pixel Plus HD          Edge LED              N           N        Y       Y      PTA01    3    1    DVB-T/C         титан
    40PFL6636     1920x1080     500,000:1    400cd/m²   100Hz    2ms  Pixel Plus HD          Edge LED              N           N        Y       Y      PTA01    3    1    DVB-T/C         сребрист    
    40PFL6626     1920x1080     500,000:1    400cd/m²   100Hz    2ms  Pixel Plus HD          Edge LED              N           N        Y       Y      PTA01    3    1    DVB-T/C         черен           2x14W                    
    40PFL6636     1920x1080     500,000:1    400cd/m²   100Hz    2ms  Pixel Plus HD          Edge LED              N           N        Y       Y      PTA01    3    1    DVB-T/C         сребрист        2x14W  
    40PFL6626     1920x1080     500,000:1    400cd/m²   100Hz    2ms  Pixel Plus HD          Edge LED              N           N        Y       Y      PTA01    3    1    DVB-T/C         черен 
    40PFL6606     1920x1080     500,000:1    400cd/m²   100Hz    2ms  Pixel Plus HD          Edge LED              N           N        Y       Y      PTA01    3    1    DVB-T/C         Черен алуминий   2x10W  
    37PFL6606     1920x1080     500,000:1    400cd/m²   100Hz    2ms  Pixel Plus HD          Edge LED              N           N        Y       Y      PTA01    3    1    DVB-T/C         Черен алуминий   2x10W
    32PFL6636     1920x1080     500,000:1    400cd/m²   100Hz    2ms  Pixel Plus HD          Edge LED              N           N        Y       Y      PTA01    3    1    DVB-T/C         сребрист        2x14W
    32PFL6626     1920x1080     500,000:1    400cd/m²   100Hz    2ms  Pixel Plus HD          Edge LED              N           N        Y       Y      PTA01    3    1    DVB-T/C         черен           2x14W
    
    52PFL5606     1920x1080     500,000:1    400cd/m²   100Hz    2ms  Pixel Plus HD          Edge LED              N           N        Y       N       N       3    1    DVB-T/C         черен           2x10W
    46PFL5606     1920x1080     500,000:1    400cd/m²   100Hz    2ms  Pixel Plus HD          Edge LED              N           N        Y       N       N       3    1    DVB-T/C         черен           2x10W
    40PFL5606     1920x1080     500,000:1    400cd/m²   100Hz    2ms  Pixel Plus HD          Edge LED              N           N        Y       N       N       3    1    DVB-T/C         черен           2x10W
    37PFL5606     1920x1080     500,000:1    400cd/m²   100Hz    2ms  Pixel Plus HD          Edge LED              N           N        Y       N       N       3    1    DVB-T/C         черен           2x10W
    32PFL5606     1920x1080     500,000:1    400cd/m²   100Hz    2ms  Pixel Plus HD          Edge LED              N           N        Y       N       N       3    1    DVB-T/C         Черен гланцов  2x10W
    
    46PFL4606     1920x1080     100 000:1    400cd/m²   100Hz    2ms  Pixel Plus HD          LED Full              N           N        N       N       N       3    1    DVB-T/C         Черен алумини  2x10W
    42PFL4606     1920x1080     100 000:1    400cd/m²   100Hz    2ms  Pixel Plus HD          LED Full              N           N        N       N       N       3    1    DVB-T/C         черен           2x10W
    32PFL4606     1920x1080     100 000:1    400cd/m²   100Hz    2ms  Pixel Plus HD          LED Full              N           N        N       N       N       3    1    DVB-T/C         Черен гланцов  2x10W 
    
    42PFL3606     1920x1080     100 000:1    400cd/m²    50Hz    5ms  Pixel Plus HD          LED Full              N           N        N       N       N       2    1    DVB-T/C         Черен алуминий   2x10W   
    32PFL3606     1920x1080     100 000:1    400cd/m²    50Hz    5ms  Pixel Plus HD          LED Full              N           N        N       N       N       2    1    DVB-T/C         черен           2x10W                  
    26PFL3606 
    22PFL3606
    19PFL3606
    
    32PFL3406         1366x758  100 000:1    400cd/m²    50Hz    5ms  Pixel Plus HD          LED Full              N           N        N       N       N       2    1    DVB-T/C    черен           2x10W  
    
    PFL9706 Segments 224 (46”)
    PFL9606 Segments 112 (46”)
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    Even stranger is there is no 46PFL9706 shown.
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    Thank for this. I just got a doubt. Did they specify the year :D?

    The first week of August is gone and their website, UK, is showing nada. Have anyone heard something recently? The Dutch website is showing nothing as well.
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    There is one new 32 in 9606 model showing on the Dutch website which looks very smart. 3D capable
    Last edited: Aug 7, 2011
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    That is true but only a 32'' and I am in the UK waiting for the 52''
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    :clap: Philips has the new 52'' and 32'' in their website. I glad for this because Sony is out of the question with the many problems they have.
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    I think it goes like this (no doubt I will be corrected if I'm wrong):-

    1000Hz = 1kHz
    1000kHz = 1MHz
    1000MHz = 1GHz
    1000GHz = 1THz etc

    So quite a way to go before we see a 1MHz TV and this is if we can believe the "Claimed" figures.

    Still looks good though and hopefully not to long untill the 9706 is available.

    Nick.
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    Hi Nick, I believe that it is correct, the Greek prefixes, kilo, mega, giga, tera, peta an so on. But that is the irony of the comment that manufacturers keep claiming these number but the real frequency of the panel is in the 50, 100 Hz. It looks that like they are outdoing each other in their claims, so if we follow their claims, this TV is 1kHz and the "full mega Hz will be in the shops by early 2012" :D. Nevertheless I hope that it is really a good TV since there is very little options out there for a really good TV. They do not include any 3d Glasses :thumbsdow I was expecting Philips to be a bit more generous than that.
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    But isn't it the response time that's important for producing a smoother, sharp image? That 1000Hz I assume includes the effect of perfect natural motion on max, and I'd never watch anything like that as the movement doesn't look realistic at all.
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    looking at the 9000 series after having owned in recent weeks two sony 55" hx923's which both suffered badly from the well documented "crease" anyway back on topic....been doing a comparison between the 52" 9000 series and the 46" model after reading on What Hifi site that the 46" is the flagship model and true enough the spec of the 46" does seem to be the greater.

    anyone know why the same features/spec isn't transferable to the 52"? i'm guessing some of the features missing are left off the 52" because the panel size dilutes the effect??? or its a panel sourced elsewhere that cannot support them????
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    May well be that for Philips, the most popular size (As far as sales goes) has been the 46" and so would make sense to keep this as the "Top Dog"
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    I did a Google search for 46PFL9706 today and it looks like this model has won the EISA award for best 3Dtv 2011/2012 :)
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    The award means nothing in my eyes, they get it every year regardless. The 3D didn't even work last year and they got the award about 2 months before the tv was even released. It's a joke really.

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