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Panasonic Plasma TV 2012

Discussion in 'Plasma TVs' started by hristoslav2, Dec 26, 2011.

  1. hristoslav2

    hristoslav2 Member

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    What is reliably known about the new Panasonic plasmas 2012

    - The new line gets name xx50. Top models will be - VT50. As I mentioned two months before the Japanese feel superstitious fear of the number 4

    Tetraphobia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    - New design. In the words of a member of Panasonic "will be very contemporary." The framework will become thinner.

    - Has promised enhancement, a new scheme of work of the panel. The peak brightness will increase.

    - VT50 now exists only in the form of ie engineering models. So-called "masters". Mass production began in late January.

    - Flick exposure will normally be in Las Vegas. Control ST50, already delivered some representation in the country.

    With EU-plasmas will have a huge problem. The new version of Energy Star 5.1 requires that consumption be limited to 50 "screen, a level not higher than 108Wt 50" FullHD display.

    http://www.energystar.gov/ia/partners/product_specs/program_reqs/Displays_Program_Requirements.pdf


    All engineering models provide representations ​​in some countries have T-CР models for U.S. / probably produced in Mexico /, which is very stupid of Panasonic Europe. U.S. models are different chassis tuners and naturally will be presented differently.

    Models with the support of DVB-T2
    Changing stand with new X-shaped.
    Starts a new diagonal of 60 inches.
    In 2012 the new models have - WiFi embeded, Flash player

    Warned that the list below is just speculation!

    Countdown to CES 2012 | VIERA at Exhibitions | VIERA | Plasma&LCD TV | Panasonic Global

    VIERA | Plasma&LCD TV | Panasonic Global
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  2. slc79

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    What you cite here is the old Energy Star specs, the new one is a max 108W at any size of the display, and it's not likely that anyone will reach that on the large panels.

    Also, the Energy Star does not apply to the EU. There are other certifications here, but we will probably suffer since most of the models share most of the parts and designs across continents.
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    My mistake. :)
    In a hurry I have written specifications for the last year. I corrected it ..
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    Panasonic began producing the VT50 back in January 2011 ?

    Do they really start manufacturing sets 12+ months in advance... or should that read *begins* in late January - ie. 2012 ?
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    According to Which, the average energy consumption of the 42" VT30
    is 243.5W (149.2W in "Eco mode"). HDTVtest write that it uses 200W
    in THX mode. And that's the smallest panel VT30. It will be interesting
    to see how much the VT50 series models use.

    I don't see a 42" model in the VT50 list. In my opinion, the omission of
    a set of that size in the UK would be a mistake, unless they're aiming to
    be a niche manufacturer.
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    X shaped stands, these look absolutely disgusting on the Sammys. Lets hope Panasonic manage to produce something a little more attractive..........
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    There might be a 46VT50, which will be a fine replacement to the 42" model.
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    agree 100%. Highly doubt that x-shaped stands can be made attractive.
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    Note the phrase above the list : 'Warned that the list below is just speculation!' ;)

    The same thing happened last year when the USA sizes were announced, with all their models being 50"+. Sure enough, 42 and 46" UK models followed.
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    There was no 46" VT30 this year afaik?
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    Yep, that's right - the ST, GT and VT UK models all came in 42" and the ST and GT also in 46".
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    What about LCD line up? any Full-led with IPS-alpha????
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    Try asking in the LCD section.;)
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    The top line /VT50/ - touch remote, Flash player, built-in WiFi. New glass design, in the name contains the word - prism

    There are rumors that there will be models with a diagonal of 47 and 55 inches.
    There have been attempts to make some 40th series, Panasonic in the past, a complete failure. Decided not to risk it.

    PANASONIC TX-L32C4E
    http://www.panasonic.cz/html/cs_CZ/...a/LCD TV/TX-L32C4/overview/8142075/index.html

    2012 TV models come with new processors

    Type No: MN2WS0150
    SoC (System on a chip-> CPU+GPU in one)
    CPU: AM34-SMP
    GPU: UniPhier Specs?
    Process: 32nm
    CPU Clock: 486 MHz
    Memory: DDR3-1333
    L1 Cache: 32kb
    L2 Cache: 128kb
    Outputs: 1 SD-Card; 3 USB; 4HDMI
    Date first available: 09/15/2010


    Type No: MN2WS0220 (2 Cores)
    SoC (System on a chip-> CPU+GPU in one)
    CPU: ARM Cortex 9
    GPU: UniPhier Specs?
    Process: 45nm
    CPU Clock: 2 x 1400 MHz
    Memory: DDR3-1600
    L1 Cache: 32kb
    L2 Cache: 128kb
    Outputs: 1 SD-Card; ? USB; ? HDMI
    Date first available: 10/15/2011

    http://panasonic.co.jp/corp/news/official.data/data.dir/jn100915-1/jn100915-1.html
    http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/UniPhier
    http://www.semicon.panasonic.co.jp/en/pr/11Nov/MN2WS0220/CN00003AE.pdf
    http://www.semicon.panasonic.co.jp/en/pr/11Nov/MN2WS0220/CN00003AE.pdf
    http://www.semicon.panasonic.co.jp/en/catalog/cat/pdf/A000019E.pdf
    http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/Panasonic-UniPhier-MN2WS0220-/
    http://www.semicon.panasonic.co.jp/en/catalog/cat/pdf/A02001PE.pdf
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    Something was said at some point about the largest consumer plasma yet for 2012. A 70 inch VT50 perhaps?
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    Well lets just hope the current Green blob issues and other problems that have plagued the 30 Range don't crop up ! ! !:thumbsup:
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    You can ask private developers engineers :)

    Panasonic Plasma Display Laboratory of America (PPDLA) - developed plasma panel TVs Panasonic.
    Plasmaco.com
    In 1996, Plasmaco was acquired by Matsupoopa Electric Industrial Co, Ltd. and is now a subsidiary of Panasonic Corporation.
    On January 1, 2005 changed its name to Panasonic Plasma Display Laboratory of America. Based in Highland, New York. Its CEO is Larry Webber Larry F. Weber - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    Here is a picture of the GT50 with its new silver stand.

    [​IMG]

    This was posted by the designer of the set over at:

    Panasonic Plasma Insiders' Discussion Thread

    Having waded through a few of the pages in this thread the key points for the new sets seem to be:
    (1) Increase in panel brightness of 50% with an improved filter also helping to increase brightness.
    (2) Narrower bezel. Lots of claims that this will be a more radical design for Panasonic. Difficult to tell from the picture though - especially as I have no idea what the size of the set in the photo is.
    (3) 3D glasses moving to Bluetooth rather than infa red. So the new sets will not be compatible with the recently released 3rd gen Panasonic glasses.
    (4) Touch pad on the remote control for on screen navigation.

    I still have no idea what the claimed "world's first" is. I would hope to see 10 bit panels to reduce banding but I do not know how realistic that is.

    When looking at the released screen sizes I think that the info may be focussed on the US screen sizes. In the US many of the smaller sets that are available here in the UK do not seem to be sold. For example, if you have a look at ValueElectronics website (the company that hosted the the recent Hidef Shootout) they do not list the VT30 and GT30 in anything smaller than 50". They do have smaller ST30s though.
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    I suspect whatever the "world first" is it is more likely to be something aimed at the average punter ratehr than the enthusiast. Sales of TV's/Panels are labouring since basically they peaked a couple of years ago when a reduction in prices in Hd 42" and 50" screens and the World Cup conibined to give sales a huge boost.

    3D has failed to get peopel excited....I wonder if a real push for IPTV and a TV becoming aprt of the integrated home are what we'll see. Personally I 'd like to see an improvement in the image but I am not sure that sells more sets for Panasonic.
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    Above you mention IPTV well that won't happen irrespective of any tv's capability till it happens in parallel with fibre or really high speeds to majority of houses or saying like 'chicken and egg' come to mind. Who's going to provide capability or function first. I am talking in UK/ Europe as US has big fat pipes to take the required through put. A colleague of mine in Chicago has IPTV and nice download and more so upload speeds too.
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    Europe does indeed have IPTV. There are several IPTV distributors in the Nordic countries and there's enough bandwidth to back that up available for most. There's been an increase in IPTV over ADSL2 or VDSL, in addition to more and more households (at least in Norway) are also being offered IPTV and internet through fiber. I've had this myself since 2008 iirc, and it would no doubt be a useful function for a tv. I am also under the impression that IPTV is growing also outside the Nordic countries, so it's not really a far fetched idea even if I think it's unlikely :)

    This "world's first" that's mentioned in plasma screens has according to the poster who mentioned it got to do with picture quality and is not likely anyone BUT enthusiasts would notice/pay attention to :)
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    Well for me currently it would be a case of moving as no supplier currently supplies fibre / infinity to the house. :)


    But seeing only moved in ~ 18 months ago not going to be soon.

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