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Discussion in 'Music Forum' started by Tetlee, May 1, 2010.

  1. PJTX100

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    Some useful info here thanks.

    Don't think Jean-Michel Jarre's Aero has been mentioned.

    One of the very best sounding I have.
  2. Ronm1

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    Here are my latest additions missed last time
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    DVD-a

    Perception box set – The Doors

    All of BarenBoim’s Beethoven symphony series
    Guitar Noir - Laurence Juber AIX
    Rumor Mill – Carl Verheyen Band AIX
    Nitty Gritty – McEuen&Ibbotson AIX
    Guero – Beck
    Sea Change – Beck
    Gaucho – Steely Dan
    Fragile – Yes
    Sym 26&41 Mozart- AIX
    Legion of Boom – Crystal Method
    Buena Vista Social Club
    Brothers in Arms – Dire Straits
    If I could remember my Name – David Crosby
    Shangri-La – Mark Knofler
    Love - Beatles
    Morh the Cat – Donald Fagen
    Tommy – The WHO *
    Another Stoney Evening – Crosby/Nash *
    Imaginary Day – Pat Metheny Group *
    Dr Chesky’s surroud Show *
    1011 Woodland – The Fixx *
    Both Sides Now – Joni Mitchell *
    Blackwater – Mofro *
    How the West was Won – Led Zeppelin *
    Believe – Aaron Neville *
    Bare Bones – Wishbone Ash *
    Chicago *
    Trey Anastasio *
    1812 Tcaikovsky – Kunzel CSO telarc] *
    Acoustic Blues – Dorian Michael AIX *
    Acoustic Guitar – D’agostino AIX *
    Piano, Bass & Drums Rushen Trio AIX *
    Beethoven Sy #6, Pastoral AIX *
    Blue me Away – Steve Pierson AIX *
    Four Ballades Chopin – Chang AIX *
    Beethoven Sting Quartets Vol1-4 tacet *


    DVD-a 2ch ONLY mlp

    Almost Like Being in Jazz 96/24 Hugh Masekela [I[StraitAhead

    Introducing Zane Musa 96/24 [I[StraitAhead[/I]
    Jazz Composer’s Songbook – John Heard & Co. 96/24 [I[StraitAhead[/I]
    Saxophone Colossus – Sonny Rollins 192/24
    Way Out West – Sonny Rollins 192/24
    Art Pepper meets the Rhythm Section 192/24


    DVD-a but no mlp layer dts/dd only
    I Robot- Alan Parsons
    Turn Of the Friendly Card – Alan Parsons
    Eye in the Sky – Alan Parsons
    Charlie Brown Christmas – Vince Guaraldi Trio
    Genius Loves Company – Ray Charles
    Nothing Like the Sun – Sting *

    SACD

    All the Moody Blues
    All the Rolling Stones
    All of Bob Dylan
    All of CCR
    Storyteller - Donovan
    Secret Love – Claire Martin
    Take my Heart – Claire Martin
    He Never Mentioned Love – Claire Martin
    Too Darn Hot – Claire Martin
    Come away with me – Nora Jones
    Violoncello | Vivaldi/Bach/Kodaly Fidelis
    Kenny Burrell & John Coltrane
    Just Like You – Keb Mo’
    Hadyn String Q Dminor/Fmajor - Frye Street Quartet
    Beethoven|Stavinsky|Rorem|Scearce – Frye Street Quartet
    Poulenc:Barber concierto’s for Organ
    Concierto – Jim Hall
    Bach: the Goldberg Variations – Glenn Gould Zenph re-performance
    Retrospective – Rebecca Pidgeon
    Verse – Patricia Barber
    In a Silent Way – Miles Davis
    Superbass – Broen/Alexander/Malone Telarc
    Superbass 2 – Brown/Clayton/McBride Telarc
    Vivaldi the four seasons – Janine Jansen
    Beethoven Sonatas – Rubenstein Living Stereo reissue
    Beethoven violin Concerto in D| Mendelsohn violin Concerto in E minor – Heifetz-Munch BSO
    Chopin Concertos No 1 & 2 – Rubenstein Living Stereo reissue
    Brahms|Tchaikovsky violin Concertos – Heifetz-Reiner CSO Living Stereo reissue
    Classics for Spanish Guitar – Julian Bream Living Stereo reissue
    Bach: Four Great Toccatas & Fugues @ the Four Organs of Freiberg – E.Power Biggs
    War of the World – Jeff Wayne
  3. Theo Maxtible

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    Ronm1,

    It’s good to see that your list is now even longer. You have a very impressive collection, and quite an eclectic mix of music.

    I notice that you have three Alan Parsons Project discs mentioned, although you mention that they are not MLP. If you have a quick look at my list, you’ll see that I have the same named albums as you.

    Are you sure that these discs you have of The Alan Parsons Project are DVD-Vs with only DD and DTS audio options, and not real DVD-As with MLP audio also? I feel slightly odd asking, in fear of looking as if I’m trying to be clever, but the ones I have are all stereo only, double sided with DVD-V audio quality one side, and MLP 2.0 CH on the other side. Mine are all from the Classic label, in normal CD cases, i.e. not SJBs. When I put any of them into my Arcam DV137 and call-up the on-screen disc info, it tells me that the DVD-V quality side is LPCM 96Khz, and the DVD-A side is MLP 192Khz.

    This leads to my second question, which if you do have the same discs as me, relates to the audio quality of a few tracks on “Eye in the Sky”.
    Have you noticed any “clicking/popping” – a bit like dropout on tracks 2, 3 & 4, and also a change in pitch on at least one of these tracks, which is a bit like analogue tape stretch?

    I’m just curious to know. I did mention this problem in a thread on this forum (and another) a while ago, although only one person replied. He had noticed the change in pitch on the CD he had, but wasn’t able to detect the clicking/popping. I have a suspicion that this problem may have existed on the original master tape, but just wasn’t noticeable on the LP versions, due possibly to their limited frequency range compared to these hi-res formats. Just a theory of mine.

    Anyway, I hope you’re happy with your collection - and possibly you’ve got an extra three DVD-As in your list? :thumbsup:
  4. Ronm1

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    Yes these are the same disks. The HDAD tag has always confused me on these releases. While the info states 192/24, mlp is never mentioned and most of the time it is. I have never equated 192/24 to being mlp specific.

    I haven't listened to these for awhile, when i get a chance I'll listen and post.
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  5. Theo Maxtible

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    Yes - that really is a crackingly good album. It's in my list, and in many ways it could be viewed as a very expensive disc. It was actually bought for me, and for about 6 months, I lived in happy ignorance thinking it was a DVD Audio. I remember going into my local specialist hi-fi dealer and mentioning to the manager how good it was, using the word DVD Audio, and the man was diplomatic enough not to correct me. In a way it's a pity he didn't point out my error, as I would have discovered hi-res music about six months earlier. Anyway, it was the first non-CD disc in my music collection, and it's the disc that started me off on this wonderful hi-res journey. Now, roughly five years down the line, and being thousands of pounds poorer, I have quite a nice collection of DVD-As and SACDs which continue to amaze and give hours of pleasure. In fact, over the past 5 years, I have bought only 1 CD - and that was about 3 years ago.

    I have been tempted to look and see if there are any other Jean-Michel Jarre DVD-V albums that might be worth a try.
  6. Tetlee

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    Ronm1, see you've added Chicago to your DVD-A list(V?), guessing you got the last one on amazon as was only one left when I nabbed mine. It really is a fantastic example isn't it?:)

    Just had two more DVD-As desptached(these are birthday pressies so had an excuse to order more:D), Bryan Ferry: Frantic, and David Gray: New Day At Midnight.
  7. Ronm1

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    Actually those I added were in diff storage cab, I've had all of those for quite awhile. Most were some of the first I ever picked up. Damn that makes me think of another to add Charmed - Elizabeth Scott AIX Tis a recent release and still sealed, haven't listened to that one yet!!
  8. Ronm1

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    Yes you certainly do and I understand completely

    Cannot say that in my case. Still pick up quite a few cd's. Try to stay with Mofi's or K2hd's, etc. Just got a few truly excellent sounding cd's. I have IMHO, a pretty good digital rig, so well done redbook still has its place.
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  9. Tetlee

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    Had a great find a couple of days ago, had been trying to find a good price for Goldfrapp: Supernature SACD for ages and had a niggling suspition the limited edition on amazon could infact be the SACD version.

    Anyway, took a chance, it turned up today, and guess what, the £4.47 limited edition is infact the SACD:clap:

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Supernature...=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1274294898&sr=8-2

    Just been listening to it and it sounds fantastic IMO, very active multi-channel mix, great effect and I for one don't agree that dance music is a poor choice for the SACD format. Highly recommended, especially at that price, get in!
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  10. Theo Maxtible

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    I could imagine that dance music is suited to a hi-res format, as I’ve yet to find music that isn’t. Strange really, but when I first started buying hi-res albums (which were DVD-As, and long before I had a hi-res player), I used to think that pop music probably wasn’t suited to these formats. This was pure prejudice on my part, as I’d yet to be able to compare any hi-res pop music. Now, as my hi-res collection has grown - and I have a wide variety of music types in it - I think differently. I can’t imagine that any music type isn’t suited to a hi-res format. Possibly more complex types of music are more suited to hi-res and MCH, but even my Little Richard SACD, which in musical terms is quite primitive, there’s a detectable difference between the SACD layer and the CD layer. On top of this, I don’t even have particularly good speakers in my system.

    Good to hear you're still finding lots of new hi-res stuff.:thumbsup:
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    Damn this thread is costing me some money. Good spot though and ordered :thumbsup:.
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    I find that interesting. Do you already have a huge CD collection or you're just interested in 2 channel any more? What do you do about new album releases that don't come out on a hi-res format?

    I'm still buying loads of CDs, in fact The KLF's White Room arrived today :thumbsup:.
  13. Tetlee

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    Well, not the fastest but they came good for me(I see there's one left in stock now if anyone wants to grab it ;)), dropped through the post today so one happy chappie:), off to listen in a minute.

    Ah the memories, I really should re-buy that on cd too:smashin:

    Must admit I rarely buy standard cds these days(last one was Red Snapper: Pale Blue Dot), when I have money to spend I'm straight on the high-res trail, it's almost a desperate instinct as I've missed out on so many that were avaialble just months ago.

    Speaking of which got a cancelation of my Bowie: Ziggy Stardust order from townsendrecords earlier, they were the only place I could find it in stock(or so I thought), gutted, should have bought that one earlier:suicide:
  14. Theo Maxtible

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    Hello Mr Orange,

    It’s all relative I suppose, but I don’t consider that I have a particularly large CD collection. I estimate that it’s about 100+ separate albums, which I’m sure some people would consider a very small CD collection. I got into buying CDs quite late, most of them being bought from 1999 until early 2005 - last one being in 2007. Once I discovered DVD-As in early-mid 2005, I almost immediately stopped buying CDs. I then started selling particular CDs, and replacing them with a hi-res equivalent - or at least something very similar. I feel slightly guilty for mentioning it in my post, as firstly it’s not really relevant to the main thrust of this thread, but also because I became perhaps a bit of a hi-res nutter - ignoring all other formats. This is a bit daft also, because I don’t really have speakers that will get the most out of hi-res MCH music.

    I suppose I was (still am?) in danger of taking this thing all too seriously, which perhaps should be guarded against. I agree totally with Ronm1, in that there are some really superb CDs out there to be had, and I’m lucky that I have some. Yes - I do have (and did own) some pretty poor CD albums, which sound so dull. A great pity, but luckily the majority that I have are quite good, and a small number (possibly 25+) that are stunningly good.

    I suppose I was so awe struck when I first discovered MCH music and DVD-As, that I just went out to look for music on that format. When I bought my first hi-res player, the Arcam DV137 with the AVR350 amplifier in very late 2006/early 2007, that just added to my amazement at these formats . I can justify buying just hi-res music at the moment, as there is still so much out there for me to buy.

    My wife is nagging me (in the nicest possible way) to look out for some music on CDs again - and yes I should.

    To answer your questions in the simplest way possible Mr Orange, I am still interested in 2 channel music, but have to admit that I prefer (generally speaking) multi-channel music. To live without music altogether though, I just couldn’t imagine.
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    Yes Magnification DVDA
    Yes Fragile DVDA
    Metallica Black Album DVDA
    ELP Brain Salad Surgery DVDA
    ELP From The Front Row DVDA
    Eagles Hotel California DVDA
    Mike Oldfield Tubular Bells DVDA
    Deep Purple Machine Head DVDA
    Colosseum The Best Of DVDA
    Led Zeppelin HTWWW DVDA
    Gary Moore Back To The Blues DVDA
    Fleetwood Mac Rumours DVDA (Best Sound)
    Alanis Morissette Under Rug Swept DVDA
    Porcupine Tree Deadwing DVDA
    Porcupine Tree In Abestania DVDA
    Porcupine Tree Lightbulb Sun DVDA
    King Crimson Red DVDA
    Genesis All Available SCAD
    War Of The Worlds SCAD
    Pink Floyd DSOTM SCAD
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    Thanks for the answer. All fair enough, if you ask me. I came to hi-res music pretty late really, mainly because I didn't have a suitable player. It is quite a bug, but I wouldn't give up on CDs. I think my collection is around 200 now, so again not huge, but growing ;).
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    I know this is a list thread but just to liven up things do you prefer one format over the other? Which seems to sound better? Are there any albums available on both and if so which do you like over the other?

    Cheers
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    I would say that DVDA is a better format the Mettalica black album the Rumours album and Tubular bells album sound superb I don,t think you could get much better production wise, the Rumours album containes many accoustic passages or simple uncluttered bass drums vocals, and I sware its as near as them playing in my music den .

    I bought a Pioneer DV 600AV its a universal player and cost less than £200 the sound quality is the best I,ve heared when compering to 2 channel sound on systems thousands of pounds more expensive.

    Its a shame the format didn,t take off It would be great to hear my collection given the DVDA treatment, its not because of the 5.1 sound its the tonal quality I injoy.

    Even though SCAD is good its not as good as DVDA in my opinion
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    I'm not going to comment on the sound quality because I don't own the same album on both formats, but the big disadvantage, IMO, with DVD-A is the requirement to use the TV to navigate. SACD is just a case of put it in the player and press play.
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    Here are the latest additions to my collection, all arrived in the last few days - and included in the updated list below.
    I haven't got around to listening to the Puccini SACDs yet, but the Herbie Mann discs are very enjoyable. They were a bit of a blind purchase, not knowing his music at all - and bought the “Eastern European Roots” disc just on a bit of a recommendation. The Caminho de Casa SACD is slightly easier listening than the other Herbie Mann album, but both can be enjoyed as background music - or music to really engage with. I'm not really very good at knowing a lot of the different music genre, but I suppose you'd call this music jazz - with perhaps a bit of world music mixed in.

    Herbie Mann “Eastern European Roots” SACD
    Herbie Mann “Caminho de Casa” SACD
    Roy Orbison "Black and White Night" DVD-A
    Puccini / Tosca - PentaTone 2 x SACD


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    The Alan Parsons Project - “I Robot” DVD-A
    The Alan Parsons Project - “The Turn of a Friendly Card” DVD-A
    The Alan Parsons Project - “Eye in the Sky” DVD-A
    The Beach Boys - “Pet Sounds” DVD-A
    The Beatles - “Love” DVD-A
    Acker Bilk - “Stranger on the Shore” SACD
    Buena Vista Social Club - “Buena Vista Social Club” DVD-A
    The Dave Brubeck Quartet - “Time Out” SACD
    The Carpenters - “Singles 1969 – 1981” SACD
    Putula Clark - “Kiss me Goodbye” SACD
    Elvis Costello - “North” SACD
    Deep Purple - “Machine Head” DVD-A
    Dire Straits - “Brothers in Arms” SACD
    Derek and the Dominos - “Layla” SACD
    Donovan - “Storyteller” SACD
    The Doors – Perception CD/DVD-A box Set comprising:
    “The Doors” - DVD-A
    “Strange Days” - DVD-A
    “Waiting for the Sun” - DVD-A
    “The Soft Parade” - DVD-A
    “Morrison Hotel” - DVD-A
    “L.A. Woman” - DVD-A
    Nick Drake “A Treasury” – SACD
    Elton John – “Elton John” SACD
    Elton John – “Goodbye Yellow Brick Road” DVD-A
    Elvis Presley – “30 #1 Hits” DVD-A
    Emerson Lake & Palmer – “Brain Salad Surgery” DVD-A
    Bryan Ferry – “Boys and Girls” SACD
    Ella Fitzgerald & Louis Armstrong – “Autumn in New York” SACD
    Kitaro – “Kojiki” SACD
    Kitaro – “Best of Silk Road DVD-A
    Kitaro – “Daylight, Moonlight – Live in Yakushiji” 2 x SACD
    Kitaro – “Sacred Journey of Ku-Kai” SACD
    Kitaro & Randy Miller - “The Soong Sisters Soundtrack” SACD
    Mark Knopfler – “Shangri-La” SACD
    Kraftwerk – “Minimum: Maximum Live” 2 x SACD
    Ladysmith Black Mambazo - “Raise your Sprits Higher” SACD
    Little Richard – “Little Richard/Here's Little Richard” SACD
    Makino Jun “Still Point” SACD
    Herbie Mann “Eastern European Roots” SACD
    Herbie Mann “Caminho de Casa” SACD
    Marmalade – “The Very Best of The Marmalade” DVD-A
    Metallica – “The Black Album” DVD-A
    Mike Oldfield – “Tubular Bells 2003” DVD-A
    Roy Orbison "Black and White Night" DVD-A
    Pink Floyd – “The Dark Side of the Moon” SACD
    Gerry Rafferty – “Can I Have my Money Back?” DVD-A
    The Rolling Stones – “Singles Collection – The London Years” 3 x SACD
    The Rolling Stones – “Hot Rocks 1964 – 1971” 2 x SACD
    Roxy Music – “Avalon” SACD
    The Searchers – “The Very Best of The Searchers” DVD-A
    Sting – “Brand New Day” DVD-A
    Sting – “Sacred Love” DVD-A
    Tomita – “The Planets 2003” DVD-A
    Goran Wennerbrandt et al – “Tiny Island” SACD
    Jeff Wayne "The War of the Worlds" 2 x SACD
    Various Artists – “British are Coming” (1960s pop) DVD-A
    Various Artists – “The Greatest Songs of the Fifties” (1950s pop) 2 x SACD
    Various Artists – “Rock ‘n' Roll Memories” (1950s pop) 2 x SACD
    The Afro Cuban Caribbean Jazz Project “El Vuelo” DVD-A



    Bach / Brandenburg Concertos - Silverline DVD-A
    Berlioz / Requiem - Silverline DVD-A
    Brahms / Symphonies No. 2 & 3 - Silverline DVD-A
    Canteloube / Chants d'Auvergne - Naxos DVD-A
    Charpentier / Messe de Minuit - Naxos DVD-A
    Dvořak / Slavonic Dances - Philips SACD
    Dvořak / Symphony No. 9 & The Water Goblin - Teldec DVD-A
    Grieg / Peer Gynt Suites etc. - BIS SACD
    Grieg / Piano Concerto & Symphonic Dances - Naxos DVD-A
    Grofé / Grand Canyon Suite etc. - Naxos DVD-A
    Händel / Ode for St. Cecilia's Day - Arts SACD
    Händel / Water Music & Music for the Royal Fireworks - Naxos DVD-A
    Händel / Messiah - Silverline DVD-A
    Holst / The Planets & The Mystic Trumpeter - Naxos DVD-A
    Mendelssohn / Hebrides Overture & Violin Concerto - Linn SACD
    Mozart / Le Nozze di Figaro - Naxos DVD-A
    Mozart / Don Giovanni - Naxos DVD-A
    Mozart / Flute Concertos - Naxos DVD-A
    Mozart / Clarinet Concerto & Clarinet Quintet - PentaTone SACD
    Mozart / Horn Concertos - PentaTone SACD
    Mussorgsky – Stokowski / Pictures at an Exhibition etc. – Naxos DVD-A
    Pärt / Berliner Messe - Naxos DVD-A
    Prokofiev / Peter and the Wolf & Lt. Kije Suite - Silverline DVD-A
    Puccini / Tosca - PentaTone 2 x SACD
    Rachmaninov / All-Night Vigil - Harmonia mundi SACD
    Shostakovich / Jazz Suites No.1 & No.2 etc. - Naxos DVD-A
    Smetana / Ma vlast - LSO SACD
    J.Strauss / Waltzes - PentaTone SACD
    R.Strauss / Alpine Symphony - PentaTone SACD
    Tchaikovsky / 1812 etc. - Telarc DVD-A
    Tchaikovsky / The Nutcracker - Silverline DVD-A
    Tchaikovsky / Romeo and Juliet etc. - Silverline DVD-A
    Tchaikovsky / Swan Lake - Naxos DVD-A
    Viavaldi / Dixit Dominus - Naxos DVD-A
    Vivaldi / The Four Seasons - Naxos DVD-A
    Wagner / The Ring - Chandos SACD
    Wagner / Overtures and Preludes - Arts DVD-A
    Williams / Symphony No. 6 - Silverline DVD-A
    Williams / A Sea Symphony - Naxos DVD-A
    Scarlatti & Beethoven / Woodwind Quintets - AIX DVD-A
    Various Composers / “Budapest Live” Ivan Fischer - Philips SACD
    Chinese National Symphony Orchestra / “Soliloquy on Cold Mountain Temple” - Channel of China SACD
    Starvinsky & Ravel / Firebird Suite & Bolero - AIX DVD-A
    Offenbach & Rossini-Respighi / Gaite Parisienne & La boutique fantasque - RCA SACD
    Various Composers / “The Coronation of King George II” - Hyperion 2 x SACD
    Liszt & Dvořak / Les Preludes & Nature's Realm etc. - Water Lily Acoustics SACD
    Various Composers / “Russian Nights” Cincinnati Pops Orchestra – Telarc SACD
    Various Composers / “The Ultimate Last Night of the Proms” Royal Philharmonic Orchestra - Membran SACD
    Christmas Choral Spectacular / Breiner - Naxos DVD-A

    Other Not-Quite-Hi-Res Albums

    Jean Michel Jarre “Aero” DD & DTS DVD-V
    Alan Parsons “On Air” DTS CD
    Kitaro "Peace on Earth" DD DVD-V
    The Police “Every Breath You Take” DTS CD
    Various Composers / Dream Suites I DD & DTS - Silverline DVD-V
    Various Composers / Dream Suites II DD & DTS - Silverline DVD-V
    Various Composers / Dream Suites III DD & DTS - Silverline DVD-V
    Various Composers / Night in Berlin DD & DTS - Silverline DVD-V
    Various Composers / Night in Paris DD & DTS - Silverline DVD-V
    Various Composers / Night in Rome DD & DTS - Silverline DVD-V
    Various Composers / Night in Vienna DD & DTS - Silverline DVD-V
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    I find it very difficult to have an overall preference of SACD over DVD-A, and I really suspect that any real or perceived superiority of one format over the other is lost and gained through different equipment, different listening environments, and different ears. I don’t have the same album on both hi-res formats, although I did do quite a few comparisons between SACD/DVD-A to its CD equivalent - when I still owned the CD version. The differences here from an audio quality point of view were generally very easy to make. I have some absolutely stunning SACDs in my collection that I use to demonstrate, but the same applies equally to some of my DVD-As.

    On the subject of use, I have certain preferences of SACD over DVD-A, but it’s so minimal - and I suppose I have a few preferences of DVD-A over SACD also. This is based purely on the discs I have. I like the “consistency” in the way SACDs react when placed in my player. By this, I mean that when the disc gets loaded, it just sits there until you command it to play. DVD-As are not as “consistent”, because although all will start “spinning” the moment the drawer closes, some play the music immediately, whereas others go to a menu and wait. It appears to me that the DVD-A offers a bit more freedom for the record label to put more music on the disc, unlike my SACDs which never exceed 80 minutes. I have quite a few DVD-As which have over 90 minutes of music on them. Apart from that, ease of use I find the same. I required a display to configure my Arcam DV137 correctly, and it would have been nigh on impossible to configure my AVR350 without a display. I keep both pieces of equipment permanently connected to my TV. I rarely use the display when playing music though, I just load a disc and let it play. If I wish to access different audio options (where applicable) of an SACD or DVD-A other than the default MCH, it’s slightly easier to switch on the TV, but I’m getting better at memorising which arrows and buttons to press on the remote control. It’s rare that I do this though.
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    As others have commented, can't compare the sound quality directly as I don't have any albums on both SACD and DVD-A, usually one or the other(or both:D) is damn expensive!

    My personal preferrence is SACD, although I rarely switch the TV on to bring up the DVD-A menus(I just wait and press select on the remote), the little intro music bit at the start can irritate me when I want to just pop the cd in and get straight to it, minor pick but I do like the simplicity of SACD over DVD-A. Having said that it's my DVD-A collection that is growing the most lately, I just seem to be finding more releases on that format and I think out of the two is the more alive where new(non-classical) releases are concerned.

    With Tubular Bells, both formats actually differ, I have the SACD version which is true to the original quad release, where as the DVD-A is more of a reworking from what I understand, now that one I would like to have both and hope to get the DVD-A at some point.

    Rumours in amoung my most wanted, Fleetwood Mac were amoung the groups I had to listen to the most growing up as my parents were crazy on them, find myself really enjoying music from those times now, nostalgia? who knows, great music though:)

    Personally I think anyone apart from the most dedicated audiophile would have a tough time picking out a DVD-A from an SACD of the same album, can't imagine they would barely sound any different(if at all).
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    Actually, I'm talking poppy-cock. I own Dark Side of the Moon in both formats, although the bootleg DVD-A is 4.1 not 5.1, but I guess I could make some sort of comparison - if only I had the time at the moment :rolleyes:.
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    A friend of mine has both versions of DSOTM and says he preferrs the bootleg DVD-A, although I'm not sure if that was just down to the fact it was true to the original quad mix, would need to be two exact same releases to properly compare I guess, as many are(such as Beck: Sea Change for instance).
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    It’s amazing how many hi-res discs I nearly haven’t bought, just because of confusing and conflicting information. The Alan Parsons Project DVD-As were a very good example, and yes, the HDAD tag had me confused also for quite a while. I asked myself many times before I owned them, what on earth the HDAD stood for, thinking it meant perhaps High Definition Audio Disc - which it doesn’t. I remember also reading various reviews of these discs (probably on Amazon US and UK) before I took the plunge and ordered them, and some reviewers stated that these were not DVD-As! If anyone is interested, and possibly thinking of buying any of these, the HDAD stands for Hybrid DVD Audio Disc. The only slightly unusual thing about these, is the fact they are stereo only discs, and two-sided. If you like music by Alan Parsons, then I’d strongly recommend these.
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    I suppose HDAD is the technical acronym for what we all know as Dual Discs. It's no wonder these formats never took off, because the GP were confused beyond belief about what they were buying. Add to this the confusion that all the retailers impart by not labelling the items correctly, and we end up with the situation we are in now!
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    Can any of you Depeche Mode Violator owners let me know if you DVD players have a problem reading the bonus DVD, and if so what DVD player do you have.

    My Lex RT-20 refuses to read it at all, although my PC (and the one at work) have no issues.

    Having spoken to CSE, they say they have heard of cases such as this where the bonus DVDs issued with CDs are not entirely to spec. The reason being that they assume the discs will be used in a computer and computer drives are more tolerant of dodgy discs than the drives used in decent DVD players.

    That seems daft to me with a DVD that contains a DTS 96/24 version of an album!
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    Could be how, at the time, my suspicion was re-enforced by these web views

    Keep in mind Steve that 192/24 is a 2ch only spec. Cannot do 192/24 on more than 2chan's. Bandwidth/storage or combination would be too high. Not specifying the mlp protocol is what always bothered me. I have some other 192/24's that are 2ch only and don't hide the mlp tag. Having 192/24 without mlp seemed like a waste. Though I'll never begrudge higher sampling/word length. I also agree that they sound awfully good :thumbsup:
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    DVD-Audio

    • Talking Heads: Brick(inc. Talking Heads: 77, More Songs About Buildings And Food, Fear Of Music, Remain In Light, Speaking In Tongues, Little Creatures, True Stories, and Naked)
    • Beck: Sea Change
    • Todd Rundgren: Liars
    • Amon Tobin: Chaos Theory soundtrack
    • King Crimson: Red
    • Bjork: Medula
    • Gerry Rafferty: Can I have my money back?
    • Chigago: V
    • Yes: Fragile
    • Bryan Ferry: Frantic **
    • David Gray: New Day at Midnight **


    SACD:

    • Genesis: 1970-75 Box(inc. Trespass, Nursery Cryme, Foxtrot, Selling England By The Pound, The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway)
    • Genesis: 1983-98 Box(inc. Genesis, Invisible Touch, We Can't Dance, Calling All Stations)
    • Pink Floyd: DSOTM
    • RPWL: World Through My Eyes
    • Brian Ferry: Boys and Girls
    • Jeff Wayne: War of the Worlds
    • Mike Oldfield: Tubular Bells
    • Peter Gabriel: Up
    • Peter Gabriel: So
    • Billy Joel: The Stranger
    • Nick Drake: A Treasury
    • Elton John: Honky Chateau
    • Elton John: Captain Fantastic
    • Toto: Toto IV
    • Propaganda: A Secret Wish
    • Michael Jackson: Thriller
    • Spandau Ballet: True
    • Perfect Houseplants: New Folk Songs
    • Diana Krall: The Girl in the other Room
    • Moloko: Statues
    • Goldfrapp: Supernature
    • Kinobe: Versebridgechorus
    • Bob Dylan: Love & Theft
    • Depeche Mode: Playing the Angel
    • Depeche Mode: Music for the Masses
    • Peder Af Ugglas
    • The Police: Outlandos d'Amour
    • Eric Clapton: Slowhand
    • Dire Straits: Brothers in Arms**

    Birthday yesterday and received a few high-res pressies, updated list with **'s being my latest additions:)

    Also had both Depeche Mode: Exciter and Ultra despatched this morning, thanks to Phil-YAI's bargain spot in the other SACD thread, it never ends:D
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    Happy belated Birthday :)

    I've ordered Fleetwood Mac Rumours for £30 and Gary Numan anthology for £16 (play.com). Fingers crossed they come through :)

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