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LCD -matrices,differences and what models are placed

Discussion in 'LCD & LED LCD TVs' started by hristoslav2, Oct 31, 2009.

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  1. flipswitch

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    So how do I know it's not an AS-IPS instead? They look kind of the same.
    Thanks.
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    Hello just bought a Samsung 32ES6100 and the panel is made by AU Optronics Made in Taiwan just need to open the small plastic cover on the back of the TV to see it bad luck i prefer S-PVA from samsung
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    Can you exchange it?
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    No its not possible to exchange it .I have try the set and its not so bad good blacks good colours after calibration very sharp image a lots of functions wifi fast and simple to use good apps the bad is clouding and the viewing angle is a bit short .
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    Samsung 2012

    E-CCFL
    EH-Direct LED
    ES-Edge LED

    In service menu
    Vendor:
    A:Samsung
    H:Sharp
    P:CMI
    R:AUO
    Examples
    32ES6100-32P1AF6E>BN07-01093A>LE320CSM-C1>CMI
    37ES6700-37R1AF6E>BN07-01145B>LE370CSA-C2>AUO
    40EH5300-40A6AF0D>BN95-00587A>LTJ400HM08-W>Samsung
    60ES6300-60H1AF6E>BN95-00632A>LE600CSS-V1>Sharp

    Main processors

    ES7000,ES8000
    Samsung Echo-P
    CPU-Dual-core ARM Cortex-A9 1Ghz
    GPU-Mali-400 MP4

    EH5300>ES6800
    MStar X10
    900Mhz

    ==================================================

    LG 2012

    FHD 60Hz Edge LED
    32” 50 W Normal : T320HVN01.0-32LS5700-AUO
    Normal : LC320EUN-SEM1-32LS5700
    42” 70 W Normal : LC420EUE-SEM1-42LS5700
    47” 85 W Normal : LC470EUE-SEM1-47LS5700
    55” W Normal : LC550EUE-SEM1-55LS5700
    FHD T120Hz Edge LED
    32” 45 W FPR : LC320EUN-SEF2-32LM6200
    50 W FPR : LC320EUA-KEF1-32LM6400
    37” 50 W FPR : LC370EUN-SEF2-37LM6200
    42” 60 W FPR : LC420EUE-SEF1-42LM6200
    60 W FPR : LC420EUG-KEF1-42LM6600
    FPR : LC420EUG-KEF1-42LM6700
    47” 90 W FPR : LC470EUE-SEF1-47LM6200
    70 W FPR : LC470EUG-KEF1-47LM6400
    FPR : LC470EUG-KEF1-47LM6690
    FPR : LC470EUG-KEF1-47LM6700
    55” 115 W FPR : LC550EUE-SEF1 -55LM6200
    70 W FPR : LC550EUG-KEF1-55LM6400
    FPR : LC550EUG-KEF1-55LM6700
    FHD M120Hz Edge LED
    65” 230 W FPR : T645HB01 V0 -65LM6200-AUO
    FHD T240Hz Edge LED
    42” 70 W FPR : LC420EUH-KEF1-42LM7600
    47” 90 W FPR : LC470EUH-KEF147-LM7600
    55” 120 W FPR : LC550EUH-KEF1-55LM7600

    Main processors

    LM8600,LM9600
    LG L9
    CPU-Dual-core ARM Cortex-A9 1Ghz
    GPU-Mali-400 MP4

    LM7600,LM6***
    MediaTek
    MT5369
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  7. phepsy1234

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    hi all
    is there any news about philips' 2012 panels ? (series PFLxyz7)
    -- specially 42pfl6007h

    and what are the meaning of xyz ?


    thnx
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    42pfl6007h - IPS from LGDisplay

    46PFL9707 - Sharp UV2A
    60PFL9607 - Sharp UV2A

    40PFL8xx7 - Sharp UV2A
    46PFL8xx7 - Sharp UV2A ?
    55PFL8xx7 -

    40PFL7xx7 - Sharp UV2A
    46PFL7xx7 - Sharp UV2A ?
    55PFL7xx7 -

    32PFL6xx7 -
    37PFL6xx7 -
    42PFL6xx7 -
    55PFL6xx7 -

    32PFL5xx7 -
    37PFL5xx7 -
    42PFL5xx7 -
    55PFL5xx7 -

    1) 42", 47", 55" - LG.
    2) 40", 46", 52", 60" - Sharp.
    3) 32", 37" - can be LG, Sharp and other.

    http://gagadget.com/files/u2219/philips_3500_series_smart_tv_specs.jpg
    http://gagadget.com/files/u2219/philips_4000_series_smart_tv_specs.jpg
    http://58pfl9955.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/image22.png?w=582&h=772
    http://58pfl9955.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/image5.png?w=556&h=484
    http://58pfl9955.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/image23.png?w=644&h=473
    http://58pfl9955.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/image3.png?w=644&h=484

    Philips PDL6907 Design Line - 42, 47 passive 3D, Pixel Precise HD, 600Ηz, Ambilight XL 3.

    PFL6877 - 3-sided Ambilite and 5 - HDMI ports + 600PMR + 2х14W + 4 x 3D glasses - Aluminium
    PFL6777 - 2-sided Ambilite and 5 - HDMI ports + 600PMR + 2х14W + 4 x 3D glasses - Aluminium
    PFL6687 - 2-sided Ambilite and 5 - HDMI ports + 600PMR + 2х14W + 4 x 3D glasses - black
    PFL6097 - 2-sided Ambilite and 5 - HDMI ports + 600PMR + 2х14W + 6 x 3D glasses - black
    PFL6067 - 2-sided Ambilite and 5 - HDMI ports + 600PMR + 2х14W + 4 x 3D glasses - black
    PFL6057 - 2-sided Ambilite and 5 - HDMI ports + 600PMR + 2х14W + 4 x 3D glasses - black
    PFL6007 - 2-sided Ambilite and 4 - HDMI ports + 400PMR + 2х12W + 4 x 3D glasses - black
    PFL5537 - 2х14W
    PFL5527 - 2х14W
    PFL5507 - 2х10W
    PFL4907 - TruSurround HD
    PFL4507 - TruSurround XT
    PFL4307 - 42", 47" - Passive 3D (Easy 3D)
    PFL4047 - 32", 37", 42", 47" - 2х14W
    PFL4037 - 32" - 2х14W
    PFL4027 - 32" - 2х14W
    PFL4007 - 32" - 2х10W
    PFL3517 - resolution: 1920 x 1080
    PFL3507 - resolution: 1366 x 768
    PFL3017 - resolution: 1920 x 1080
    PFL3007 - resolution: 1366 x 768

    It is written in the first post of the topic.

    or look in the first post here / is written in Bulgarian - use Google translate/
    http://forum.setcombg.com/index.php/topic,48336.msg461389.html#msg461389
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  9. Petas

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    I have a Samsung UE32ES6100 and the panel is a LE320CSM-C1 from CMI .
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    I can confirm some of the ES series have got poope panels...I had the UE40ES5700 and it couldn't display black, the closest it came to black was dark navy blue... who are Samsung making these TVs for? Colour blind people?
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    If you pay attention you will see that both panels are similar indications - meaning that the same manufacturer.

    32ES6100 - 32P1AF6E > BN07-01093A > LE320CSM-C1 > CMI
    37ES6700 - 37R1AF6E > BN07-01145B > LE370CSA-C2 > AUO

    But you wrote two different manufacturer CMI & AUO
    The panels on either of the two manufacturer did not begin with an indication of LE...

    Chimei Innolux Corporation - LCD TV Panels
    AUO - TFT-LCD
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    Hi Hristo

    Pany 2012 LCDs

    Referance(Hi-End)WT50>>55/47/42
    Prime(Hi-End)DT50>>47/42

    asking you that any tear-down and info off Matrices??

    Thx

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    Hi Petas,
    Thanks for the photo, but this panel sticker definitely DOES NOT look like an AUO panel sticker, for example:
    http://s48.radikal.ru/i121/0911/65/2754ba5e0ad2.jpg
    http://i070.radikal.ru/1111/af/522735175247.jpg
    http://www.avforums.com/forums/atta...-models-placed-benq_ew27030_panel_sticker.jpg
    http://www.avforums.com/forums/15106902-post598.html

    etc..;)
    Much more like Samsung sticker:
    http://www.avforums.com/forums/14884440-post542.html
    http://forum.ixbt.com/topic.cgi?id=62:11088-16#580


    Could be a CHIMEI OEM supply panel for Sams?? :confused:
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  16. Petas

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    Thanks adtomov i will put some better photos .
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    Hi albani

    WT50
    55" - VVX55F130A20 IPS Pro - Panasonic Liquid Crystal Display
    47" - VVX47F130A20 IPS Pro - Panasonic Liquid Crystal Display
    42" - LC420WUD- S-IPS - LG Display

    8 Block Scan with Local Dimming
    Combination of 50 frames in PAL, with 4 frames of motion compensation and 8 phases of the scanning backlight. 50x4x8 = 1600Ηz!!!

    Panasonic TX-L47WT50 [Τeardown] Panel - VVX47F130A20
    Panasonic TX-L47WT50 [

    DT50
    55" - VVX55F130B20 IPS Pro - Panasonic Liquid Crystal Display
    47" - VVX47F130B20 IPS Pro - Panasonic Liquid Crystal Display
    42" - LC420WUD- S-IPS - LG Display 8 Block Scan
    Combination of 50 frames in PAL, with 4 frames of motion compensation and 8 phases of the scanning backlight. 50x4x8 = 1600Ηz!!!
    ET50
    47" - VVX47F130... IPS Pro - Panasonic Liquid Crystal Display
    42" - LC420WUD- S-IPS - LG Display
    8 Block Scan

    ET5
    55" - LC550WUD-SDA1 S-IPS - LG Display
    47" - LC470WUD-SDA1 S-IPS - LG Display
    42" - LC420WUD-SDA1 S-IPS - LG Display
    3 Block Scan

    E5
    47" - VVX47F1.....IPS Pro - Panasonic Liquid Crystal Display
    42" - LC42WUN S-IPS - LG Display
    37" - LC37WUN S-IPS - LG Display
    32" - LC32WUN S-IPS - LG Display
    32/23/19 - NoScan , 42/47 - 3 block Scan

    U5
    42" - LCS MVA - ChiMei Innolux

    X5
    32" - LC320WUN...S-IPS - LG Display
    19",24"- TN

    C5
    32"- V315H3 LCS MVA - ChiMei Innolux
    24" - TN

    Моdels 2012
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  18. Petas

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    Hi adtomov i have better photos what do you think ??? Originally Posted by dj9 View Post
    There is no such thing as a "S", "A", or "C" panel type. The letter does not have anything to do with the panel type or who manufactured the panel; it specifies where the TV was assembled.

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    Hi Petas,
    Obviously it should be Samsung panel (S-PVA), according to sticker info. If I could find some other or additional info, will post it. Still small option of OEM supply is present.
    ;)

    P.S. According to the service manual, provided by ertdh :smashin:, it should be CMI panel. All the codes and specs are the same... :rolleyes: But the sticker logo "samsung" is confusing... Can't find the panel code in the databases I can access trough Internet. Should be a new one.

    Hint: Could You look at the panel trough strong magnifying glass or eyepiece and compare the matrix pixel structure You see with the pictures posted at the beginning of this topic? They are sorted there in separate posts depending on the manufacturer.
    ;)
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    Recognized Component Mark

    UL | Marks and Labels



    Samsung UE32ES6100 Versions
    _________________________________
    Version-01

    -Panel-LE320CSM-C1
    -Type-S-MVA(LCS MVA)
    -In service menu - P
    -Samsung P/N -BN07-01093A
    -Maker-Chimei Innolux(CMI)>Foxconn>Hon Hai Precision Industry Co., Ltd.
    Welcome to Chimei Innolux Corporation
    Chimei Innolux Corporation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Foxconn - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    ___________________________________
    Version-03

    -Panel- LTJ320HW04
    -Type-S-PVA
    -In service menu - A
    -Samsung P/N -BN95-00610A
    -Maker-Samsung

    :thumbsup:
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    I have already tried but they come out really bad i will trie again i have a D90 18-105 mm but is not a macro lens do you think that is possible to do it ?
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    Thanks for the help I will take a photo of the pixel structure .Well if you tell me how can you help me i have a nikon d90 18-105 mm
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    Hi hristoslav2,

    Do you have any information about the 2012 Sony tv?
    I am quite interested about the 40 HX 855.
    It seems that should had improved the quality of HX820.
    I was wondering if Sony is using the S-LCD from Samsung or a different one.
    If this should be the case, could you kindly explain which is the difference between S-LCD and S-PVA?

    Thanks a lot for any your information!
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    Believe they are using Sharp panels this year.

    Aaron
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    Hi Petas,

    There are 3 common ways of taking ultra-macro picture of an object:
    1. Using universal macro-lens adapter like:
    DCR-250 Super Macro conversion lens for D-SLR camera
    Raynox High Definition Conversion Lens Accessories for SONY HDR-FX7, HDR-FX7E, HVR-V1J, HVR-V1E, HDR-V1U, HVR-V1N HDV Camcorders

    2. Using USB-microscope, (enhanced magnification) for example:
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb...ias=aps&field-keywords=USB microscope&x=0&y=0
    Celestron Handheld Digital Microscope: Amazon.co.uk: Electronics
    Veho VMS-004 Discovery Deluxe USB Microscope with x400: Amazon.co.uk: Electronics

    And 3. (The most complex one) Using secondary object-glass like macro lens, attached to your camera. This method gives the highest magnification, depending on the object-glass parameters. But it requires adapter rings and etc.., as described in this Russian site:
    ru_macro:
    (use Google translator, if needed).

    In cases 1. and 3. use max optical (not digital!) zoom in order to obtain max. magnification ratio.

    Me personally, I use method 3. My camera is 35x optical (24-840 mm equiv.) zoom one, with an object-glass as ultra-macro lens.

    Success!;):smashin:
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    LCD panel Sony KDL-HX750
    46HX750=LTY460HQ0502
    40HX750=LTY400HL0402
    32HX750=LTY320HQ0102

    LCD panel Sony KDL-HX850
    55HX850=FQLR550LT0101
    46HX850=FQLR460LT0101
    40HX850=FQLR400LT0101

    Sub-pixels in the PSA screen in the Sony KDL-46HX750 TV.
    http://img1.lesnumeriques.com/article/1547/dalle-LCD-PSA-HX750-2.jpg
    http://www.digitalversus.com/tv-television/screen-technology-sub-pixels-up-close-a1547.html

    Sony Global - News Releases - Sharp and Sony Amend Agreement regarding Joint Venture to Produce and Sell Large-Sized LCD Panels and Modules
    Sony and Sharp joint venture hits a rocky patch, Sony cuts off capital - Engadget
    Sony abandons further investment in Sharp LCD collaboration | The Verge

    3D 55HX850???_11?_?
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    Hi hristoslav2,

    Thanks as always for your prompt answer.
    Do you have any detail about the above letters that define the panel type?
    I guess just the numbers as the panel measure.
    Any idea about the producer of the panel from these letters?

    Cheers :smashin:
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    TvFinder

    In this issue of the China Forum discuss inserted matrix / use Google translator /
    http://www.xn--kfs34hq12a4su.com/thread-3669631-1-1.html

    55HX855 - FQLR550LT0101 - VA, Sony/Samsung with PSA

    Inserted into the TV matrix can be seen in the service menu on the penultimate row. The second bottom-up
    http://www.xn--kfs34hq12a4su.com/fo...wZHwxMzM3MjQ5MzMzfDB8MzY2OTYzMQ==&nothumb=yes

    46HX920 - FQLF460DT01 - VA, Sony/Samsung with PSA
    55HX920 - FQLF550DT01 - VA, Sony/Samsung with PSA

    Screen Technology and Sub-Pixels Up Close
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    Hi hristoslav2,

    Thanks for the information. All this codes and definitions sound to me like Arabic language.
    Well, I need to wait for some good reviews to understand better the real characteristics of this panel.
    From the first opinions read on the web this TV seems work greatly.
    Considering that some months ago you suggested me the NX720 and this should be the development of that TV, I think to be close to the final choice.

    Again, thanks so much!
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