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IW's Flawed Logic behind Shotguns

Discussion in 'PS3 Call of Duty (COD) Forum' started by AnthonyG, Dec 19, 2011.

  1. ps3boy

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    Got the 'flatliner' accolade on seatown last night (3 killstreak while near death) as I'm leveling up the striker to take advantage of the, ahem, 'slightly overpowered' ext mags and range set-up. Three guys in a the two story building looking over the market, blat, blat, blat

    Such a laugh these shotties!
  2. crocandy

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    Can someone please clarify what USAS set up is best:
    Is it Damage/Ex Mags or Range/Ex Mags.

    I tend to run with the Spec Class.
  3. AnthonyG

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    Damage/Ex Mags & Extreme Conditioning
  4. Wingsurfer

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    I've only read the first post, in work & not got time to read through it all.
    The fact about realism & one hit kills was mentioned. Being realistic, why aren't hits to the chest & head with any gun not instant kills? Ok, maybe getting shot in the chest you do have a chance of survival in the real world but in the head very very little chance of living!
    The game is not realistic, it is just that - a game
  5. AnthonyG

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    This is something I never thought I'd ever say. But finally got the Gold 1887.

    That gun is so **** it is not even worth having in the game.

    Now every Golden Shotty unlocked.

    In terms of opinion of how they rank against each other now used them all alot.

    USAS > Striker > > > > > > > KSG > AA12 > SPAS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1887
  6. HRL

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    USAS is a pump-action though, right? Whereas the Striker you can spam in peoples faces with every round in the clip?

    Tried a few of the shotties out last week and have settled on the Striker as the only one that I can be bothered to level up.
  7. nickGT

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    It's not pump action. It's single shot. Kinda like the spas in black ops.
  8. HRL

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    Keep your finger on the trigger and it fires every second or so? If that's not the USAS I'm not sure which one I'm confusing it with.
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    Yep, thats the USAS you're talking about. Fully auto although the fire rate is a lot slower than the AA12:)
  10. HRL

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    Had a play with the USAS and the Striker last night and I can't work out which I prefer. They're both very hit and miss when it comes to OHK's and hit markers, aren't they.

    I see what everyone has been saying about them being rubbish until levelled up to unlock damage.

    Pulled off a couple of cracking headshots at medium range and then got hitmarkers at point blank range with someones head. There's just no consistency.
  11. Nezben

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    Bingo.
    Ive mastered the SPAS but it was so hard work, it put me off the game.
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    apparently they have patched the ext mags glitch, i feel sorry for anyone who hasnt gotten them to gold that wants to
  13. AnthonyG

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    Gits!!

    Forget Gold. Using the shottys will be a lot less appealing in general now.
  14. nickGT

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    I'm really struggling with the usas12. It seems I barely get any one hit kills and constantly takes 3+ shots. It's level 20 at the moment and running grip with focus. Perks - Extreme conditioning - Quickdraw - Steady Aim.

    Any suggestions or tips?
  15. AnthonyG

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    It will take 2/3 hits. Use Hardline/Specialist with SOH as Slot 1 (or slot 3 even and QD as slot 1 as you should not need to reload after only 1 kill). Just keep using it till 28. then its mostly 1 hit kill from then on it.

    I found it easy as I had just gruelled my way to 28 with the KSG, AA12 and Spas. And it was a slog. I then put on the USAS and it was a breeze on comparison.

    I would also say forget ADS. Shotguns work best hip firing them. Or the do for me.

    For some reason - and it might have been the Ext mags thing - but the shotguns seem more powerful hip firing than ADSing.
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    i would say yes run specialist or uav-counter uav/ballistic vests because tbh the 7 killstreaks are few and far between with shottys

    dont underestimate using a silencer either, while it will cut down on the power a bit staying off the radar will help you a lot more than the little bit of range you gain by not using it


    while using specialist

    main perks

    ext cond-hardline-steady aim with soh,assassin,scav as your spec perks

    while running support

    soh-assassin-steady aim

    if your going the silencer route with support id say ballistic vests are your friend because assassin makes you completely invisible to radar

    dont run a third killstreak in support either some would say adv uav but if they arent on the uavs then they def wont be on the adv uav and you will get your second set of uav and vests quicker

    dump quickdraw id say unless your using the portable radar(another very good tactic for ranking shottys) with specialist but i would def stick with assasin silencer for support

    and i wouldnt bother ads'ing either for the range it gives you it slows your mobility too much and to get the mobility back you have to trade in steady aim for stalker which isnt a fair trade when using a shotty, imho if your ads'ing without doing it for the sights challenges then your doing it wrong
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    Speaking of port radar... assassin should not be immune to it... should work like hacker pro making you immune in BO and in a different perk... like blind eye pro.
  18. crocandy

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    Has the ex mags glitch def been fixed?
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    yes but only on xbox because of the dlc patch, its likely that once that patch hits on ps3 itll be fixed too
  20. crocandy

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    Thanks. How can they fix ex mags glitch but leave dual fmgs? Now those really sorting.
  21. AnthonyG

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    How can they remove/fix the Extended Mags but leave in QuickScoping.

    I would like to be sitting in the board room when they fixed that.

    Ok so all these kids are running around quckscoping and millions of vids are popping up on youtube of idiots doing 720 spin QS on S&D. But people are stopping scoping as they are finding the shotguns fun to use too.

    What!!, better patch that straight away. Cannot have other people than quick scope snipers having fun.
  22. crocandy

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    Actually the more I think about the longer the list of what gets my goat starts to become. I've had to rename All my classes anti - xxxxx (heartbeat sensor, quick scoping, dual fmgs etc).
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    *cough* youtube video *cough* :smashin:
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    shaddap
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    Updated #MW3 today; you'll notice improved lag comp, theater fixes, nerf to Striker, buff to all other shotguns, upload to YouTube faster.

    40bullcrap
  26. Tall_Paul

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    Err, thats a good thing. the striker (esp when someone has damage/range) is seriously powerful at close/medium range (verging on OP), and as for the other shotty's being buffed, yesthankyou!!! :clap::clap: will be ranking them up in the next week or 2 so that's perfect timing for me.
  27. AllThatDaz

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    Improved lag comp my backside! Had a few really laggy games earlier...the game is going downhill fast.
  28. Cha1ky

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    never said it wasnt :confused:
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    ahh, I read too much into your 40bullcrap comment :D:laugh:

    He's on the machinima live stream at the moment, apparently striker is (will be for ps3) 6 pellets and all other shottys 9 pellets, also there's been a nerf to akimbo's across the board too :thumbsup:
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    Na I said that as thats what he talks a lot of mate. :thumbsup:

    Every patch is fixing lag......err not from what i'm reading.

    Hope the akimbo nerf isnt anything like the last one (did it even get nerfed lol)

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