Discussion in 'PVRs' started by Gavtech, Mar 6, 2012.
Good point, they are BBC1 HD series links. I also haven't got any BBC1 SD in my schedule.
They use different Series IDs for SD and HD - The SD might well transfer automatically . . .
Just tested and "Bargain Hunt" normally on BBC1(SD) has correctly linked to the BBC2(SD) versions for the Olympic-Holidays !
So all you fans of "Holby" (etc.) that have the BBC1HD version Series Linked, better set the SD version (now only in the guide on BBC2) or you will miss things !!!!!!
I had to check my schedules yesterday when someone on another forum mentioned that BBC ONE (which also means BBC ONE HD) and BBC THREE (BBC HD being the HD simulcast, just for the Olympics) has shoved pretty much ALL usual programming out of the way for the Olympics.
So that means no HD version of Eastenders or Holby City. Would there still be HD versions on the BBC iPlayer website, do you reckon?
Can't be sure, but I would think so as all BBC1 production is now done in HD thus the SD broadcasts are simply downscaled versions, so the HD versions will still be available to the BBC to put on iPlayer, whether they do or not your guess is as good as mine.
I believe that some may be broadcast on BBC HD overnight.
I have a HD series recording for Gardeners' world which is usually on BBC HD at the same time it is on BBC 2. (Fridays 8:30 pm)
Tonight's programme is on BBC2 at normal time but the HD version is showing in the schedule for on BBC HD at 01:30 tomorrow morning.
Just checked - on monday night Eastenders is on BBC HD starting at midnight
I had an aerial guy come out and test my setup. He plugged in a signal tester and saw the same as I see, he plugged in a SD DTV box via scart to his tester and saw the same breakup. He said the aerial looked OK and the positioning was fine - it was a mystery.
He ran a new downlead from the aerial direct to the DigiStream - cutting out an old splitter that was outside on the wall - he said it was an old one but good quality, it wasn't actually being utilised in the second room it was run to anyway.
For a week or so it seemed fine, the S & Q meters hadn't changed much but the picture seemed stable. Now the glitching has returned. Anyone else got any ideas as to why I've got a high Signal Strength (80-90) but variably low Signal Quality on HD (CH30 Crystal Palace). When Quality is on 44-52 it seems OK, when it goes below that it glitches.
Any information appreciated before I start spending more money on a new Yagi18a
It appears Eastenders in on at midnight on the BBC HD channel every time after it's been shown at it's normal time on BBC2.
However if you normally have Eastenders as a series link on BBC1 HD, it will NOT automatically switch the reservation to the BBC HD channel - you need to set it up as a new recording for the duration of the Olympics.
Just an update on the problem i am having with my DS.
I have returned my DS to John Lewis under its two year g`tee.They are really sympathetic and will try to resolve the problem for me they say.The down side is they have a turn around time of approx 14 days for a repair.I have managed to buy another DS, the same model, for half price, from them, because of the problems i have had.Will connected it up tonight and see how it goes.
It seems that JL no longer have their own service department from what i have heard.
You might have some form of external interference going on, or perhaps the balun in the aerial has a problem of some sort. I'd be tempted to go for a brand new aerial and start afresh. At least that way, you can get the aerial installer to work with you if a new rig doesn't fix the issue. I would go for a grouped aerial (group A for Crystal Palace), not wideband though, and use CT125 cable for the downlead. It's a bit more difficult to work with but has better shielding and is more impervious to the elements. Aerial alignment may also play a key.
As a slight aside, you could also make sure that you've got some mains interference suppression in place. I had a VCR, many years ago, that would hum and buzz a bit and give some odd picture problems on occasion, but by fitting a simple ferrite choke on the mains cable things improved vastly. You could have a domestic appliance doing something odd somewhere mains power wise, that's injecting something. Ethernet over power is supposed to be such a source, if you believe the guff on the Russ Andrews website.
It's interesting about your S & Q readings. I always see a higher S than Q on all of my Freeview HD capable kit -- Crystal Palace is my source too. S is in the 75% range, Q ~65%. I sometimes get the occasional 'no signal' glitches (again all kit) but never see any break-up. For decent SD however, I have to use 12dB of in-line attenuation to avoid a lot of break-up due to signal overloading. Without that attenuation I suspect that my HD S & Q values would be a bit better. It's a necessary compromise though for the best overall viewing.
You may have to contact the authorities (can't recall which body -- it used to be the Post Office yonks ago (showing my age!)) if you are getting TV interference. They send a man in a van round to check things out. Got any local CB radio enthusiasts? They're a known source of troubles. I used to work with a guy whose TV reception would get totally blatted when his next door neighbour fired-up his CB radio rig.
There's always Freesat if all else fails .... All very annoying though.
I could be wrong, but I always understood that signal strength was a measure of the amount of signal being fed to the tuner, this could include any amount of interference as well as the wanted signal. The signal quality I assumed was a measure of the ratio of error correction applied to the signal, so 75% quality would indicate that 25% of the signal contained errors, as you have found once the errors get to 50% the poor error correction has to make large assumptions as to what is signal and what is error and simply starts making errors of judgement, leading to the breakup of the sound and picture.
None of that helps you much! If the interference happens at regular intervals, or with a repeatable 'pattern' it is possible that interference is being radiated from a nearby piece of equipment. I have had personal experience of interference coming from DECT cordless telephones/base stations, mobile phones, WiFi routers, cordless doorbells, baby monitors and games consoles. Try unplugging them in turn and see if it helps?
Have any buildings/ trees/ cranes/ cooling towers gone up or down in line of sight between you and the transmitter? Is the Olympic Village in the way?
More seriously, I would suggest as others have done that the existing aerial and downlead are replaced, using very good quality cable by an aerial installer with a good reputation and making sure that the cable does not pass through any amplifiers/ splitters/ joints/ sockets on the wall, ending up with the plug that fits into the DS being the first 'break' in the cable. If that cures the problem, any amplifiers or splitters could possibly be considered for reconnection.
I've been instructed to return my box to MIT for a swap as the recent software upgrade meant I was unable to use it via my amp. Although I have the option of sending my box back and letting DS copy my hard drive to the new one, this will involve two days off work instead of just the one where the delivery and pick up is done the same time. I've been told it is also possible to obtain an external hard drive and copy the data myself but I'm not sure how difficult or costly this might be. Anyone done this or can give me an idea of what's involved?
It's pretty straightforward is is covered in the DS Wiki, I believe. However, there's a couple of gotchas: it's painfully slow, and for HD stuff you can only play it back on the box that recorded it. SD is I understand OK though.
HD is encrypted but will play back on any DHR/DHP box.
SD is clear.
HDD must be 160GB+ and formatted by the DHR to XFS.
Thanks. Think I'll bite the bullet - life's complicated enough!!
Doesn't look like Holby City is afforded the same luxury though.
Is there any way to adjust the different sound levels from the DS?
The BBC HD channels are painfully low compared the their SD ones and it is annoying to have to keep adjusting them.
I am not using Dolby sound and have tried different HDMI sockets on the TV (Samsung LCD).
The only way to balance the sound levels would be to use DD=ON if your TV/System supports DD decoding (you would also have to change to the DD Firmware version if you find you want to do this). You can then use the DHR Volume control to adjust the SD audio down to match HD levels which are fixed.
I find only 5.1 source material is quieter on BBC and C4 HD channels so you may find some other annoyances if you trim for SD:HD5.1 levels ???
How are we looking on the firmware front? It seems a long time since we last had an update; any ideas what might be included in the next version?
If there is a next version .....
Had 2 non-stopping recordings last night.
Cricket on 5 (19:00-20:00) was still recording at 20:30 when we started to watch it. I cancelled that one manually. The recording was OK
The Prom on BBC4 was still recording at 22:40 - was supposed to end at 22:00. Again cancelled this from the schedule.
Take it you are on 4.14 ?
Were the recordings long or just shown as still recording in the Schedule ?
Seen that a couple of times but the recordings stopped on time and didn't affect further recordings.
I checked over the weekend - still running 4.12 (with Micom 1.27)
The cricket recording had recorded the next 60 minutes after the scheduled end of the programme (at which point i had cancelled it)
Fri/Sat/sunday recorded OK.
Incidentally if anyone needs a new DS, John Lewis in Cambridge had got the 500GB model in clearance for £129 on Saturday. Looks like the DS is no longer shown on display.
Update (Front USB Menu Method) to 4.14 using the AO (2 File version) from the Wiki.
Use DD or PCM version as appropriate for your system.
Came home to a new experience tonight, my DS8206 has deleted/lost all scheduled recordings
I am on software 4.14 r8683 micom 1.33
drive space used 3%.
I rescheduled some recordings and they have completed okay
The scheduled recordings were a mixture of series links and single events and all have gone, I have no 800 channels all my recording are still on the hard drive
and as far as I am aware have no other issues with the box
I have another DS upstairs which is fine any ideas?
Thanks - will give this a go.
My DS has occasionally 'lost' a series recording -- I've reported it here in the past. Never lost the lot though. New one on me.
I have had individual reservations disappear on the 8205in the past but always put that down to Broadcaster problems.
This is the first time I have had all of them vanish
Sorry - no idea why it would happen but then I have no idea why my computer does any of it's random stuff. Just have to hope it was a one-off cosmic particle event !!!!
Ah computers -- love 'em or hate 'em. Has anyone ever noticed that the moment that you need to do something in a hurry or important with a computer it will 'misbehave' -- hang, re-boot, application crash and so forth. How did we ever manage in the past without these labour saving devices? IMO, the DS box is just a computer performing a specialised function. That we all see glitches on occasion doesn't surprise me, but because the box generally seems pretty reliable, any performance issues as and when they arrive catch us unawares and come as a surprise. As an example, my MAC decided to sulk this morning when I tried to boot it up -- it knew I needed to use it to work from home today so decided not to play. Typical. Luckily, I give it a stern talking to and now it's behaving again (as I type this message).
Ah well thanks guys will just have to keep an eye on this.
Have turned on system logging just in case
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