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Calling all armchair builders!

Discussion in 'Desktops' started by Theydon Bois, Aug 12, 2009.

  1. Theydon Bois

    Theydon Bois Moderator

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    In an effort to try and get the Desktop sticky up to speed and the fact that we are seeing a lot of "I have [this] budget and want [this] build" threads, I am calling on your armchair builders to spec me some builds.

    Yes, yes, they will be out of date in 6 months, but that just means we can do it again :D

    This is the kind of thing I am after, a sample build I made for a member here and what gave me the idea to start this thread in the first place. The i7 build was originally for a budget of £750 (failed by £22, but thats not too bad :rolleyes:), but I did include a OS that may not have been required.


    So, the challenge!

    :lesson: Include all the component parts needed (dont forget the optical drive) for a base PC (including a Windows Vista OS!) build, but no periphals such as TFT or keyboard and mice are required - these can be added as provisions for these within the extra's.

    :lesson: You must stay within budget........ok, +5% and no more to allow for price decrease or cheaper parts bought elsewhere.

    :lesson: I need the following kit lists:

    AMD £350, £500, £750, £750 - £1500
    Intel £350, £500, £750, £750 - £1500
    Intel i7 £1000, £1500+

    :lesson: You can enter as many times as you want, I will take the first one entered as the one to choose should I get doubles of builds.

    Good luck! :smashin:
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    A watercooled Intel system over £1500 -


    Enclosures

    Silverstone Temjin Black : TJ07B - £235
    480mm Quad Radiator Stand for Silverstone TJ07 - £14

    Hardware

    Asus P6T Deluxe V2 - £200
    Intel Core i7 920 D0 Stepping - £210
    ATI HD 4870X2 - £270
    OCZ Gold 6GB (3x2GB) DDR3 2000MHz PC3-16000 - £100
    2 x 1.5Tb F2 Samsung Spinpoint HDD - £160
    1 x 1Tb F1 Samsung Spinpoint HDD- £60
    64Gb G.Skill Falcon SSD - £160
    Pioneer DVR-216DBK 20x DVD±RW - £20
    Corsair HX620 PSU - £100


    Cooling


    1 x Thermochill PA120.3 Radiator - £70
    1 x Laing DDC 10w Pump - £45
    1 x XSPC Laing DDC Top with Reservoir - £18
    8 x Noctua NF-S12B ULN 700rpm 6.8dB 120mm fans - £18 each = £154
    2 x Noctua NF-B9 - £13 each = £26
    2 x G1/4 3/8 Barbs - £3
    D-Tek FuZion V2 CPU Waterblock with barbs - £50
    D-Tek FuZion Intel i7 LGA 1366 Pro-Mount Kit - £12
    EK Full Cover Graphics Card Waterblock with barbs - £85
    Zinc Plated Worm Drive Hose Clip for 3/8" Tubing - £5
    Tygon 3/8" (R3603) Tubing (Thick Walled) - £18
    Feser One UV Purple Coolant 2Lt - £16
    PrimoChill Anti-Kink Coils 5/8"- Yellow - £6
    4 x 120mm Fan gaskets - £12
    Anti-Vibration Screws - £6
    Anti-Vibration PSU Gasket - £5
    ThermoChill Additional NG120.4 Neoprene Gasket (15mm fitment) - £4
    Nesteq FanMax 8-Channel Fan Controller Black - £26


    Operating System

    Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium SP2 64Bit - £90

    Total cost £2,180-00
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  4. sibeer

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    Intel £350 super build :thumbsup:

    Use scans today only packages for this price, will cost a little more without.

    Windows 7 Home Premium - Retail (Use RC for free till then) £69.75
    512MB Gainward GTS 250 Green, 1000MHz GDDR3, GPU 700 MHz, Shader 1850 MHz, 128 Cores, HDMI £65.54 (or £15 more for 1GB Radeon 4850)
    PSU & Case Package - £40.24
    500W Ezcool PSU Silent 80mm Fan 24pin+4pin ATX v2.03 (OEM)
    NZXT Beta, Black Mid Tower Case w/o PSU
    HDD, CPU, RAM & Mobo Package - £172.49
    1TB Hitachi 0A38016 Deskstar 7K1000.B, SATA 3Gb/s, 7200rpm, 16MB Cache
    4GB (2x2GB) Corsair TwinX DDR2 XMS2, PC2-8500 (1066), 240 Pin,
    Asus P5KPL-AM iG31, S775, PCI-E (x16), DDR2 1066(OC)/667/800, SATA 3Gb/s, uATX, VGA
    Intel Pentium Dual-Core, E5300, S775, Wolfdale, 2.6 GHz, 2MB Cache, 13x Core Ratio, 65W

    Total cost £348.02 delivered for AV Members.

    Points to note:
    1. That PSU WILL be fine for a dual core system with a few HDD drives and a single decent GPU. I would not be so confident with it for SLI / Crossfire or an overclocked Quad.
    2. I would spend the extra £15 for a 4850, or maybe even another £30 again for a 1GB 4870 if I was using as a gaming system.
    3. That CPU should happily overclock to 3Ghz+ with the stock cooler, the Asetek VapoChill for £7 wouldn't be a bad upgrade, or my personal cheap fave is the Xigmatek HDT-S963 for £15 but often on offer for around £10.
    4. Given how soon Windows 7 is out and the benefits of a retail disk over OEM you would be a fool to spend out on Vista, use the RC available with a free temporary license whilst you wait for your delivery.
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    AMD £750 Bundle, Lovin it :thumbsup:

    *OVERCLOCKED* AMD Phenom II X4 Quad Core 955 Black Edition 3.20GHz @ 3.60GHz / Gigabyte GA-MA790XT-UD4P Motherboard / OCZ Platinum AMD Edition 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 1600C7 / Titan Fenrir CPU Cooler Bundle £359.98
    Powercolor ATI Radeon HD 4890 1024MB GDDR5 TV-Out/Dual DVI/HDMI (PCI-Express) £126.99
    Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium E - Retail £65.99
    OCZ ModXStream Pro 600w Silent SLI Ready Modular Power Supply £60.98
    Samsung EcoGreen F2 1TB SATA-II 32MB Cache - OEM (HD103SI) £55.98
    Western Digital Caviar Black 500GB SATA-II 32MB Cache - OEM £41.99
    Coolermaster Elite 335 Case - Black (No PSU) £28.99

    Total £740.91 + Shipping

    Points to note:

    1. OCUK are hand picking you a chip, Overclocking it for you and providing warranty.
    2. Split the HDD storage into OS&Apps on the robust and fast WD and planty of room on the Sammy, clearly this isn't for everyone so adjust to suit your needs.
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    Out of date in 6 months?, tomorrow more like with post 4,
    perhaps a comparative spread sheet template would be better

    columns for sellers, rows for components, if you link this to the site it can be updated like a wiki with the bargain components of the day.
    1 sheet can be done for each level of system.

    knocked up a basic idea can i upload it or attach it?
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  9. dacads

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    Good idea this will mean lists/builds can regularly be udated when necessary.
  10. Theydon Bois

    Theydon Bois Moderator

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    Excellent Post Sibeer. Full kit list (bar optical) plus information on how to upgrade should that extra few quid become available. As I mentioned a 5% leway above the requested budget, the today only Scan prices are ok - I have been watching parts foir various upgrades myself and noticed drops in heatsink, hard drive and graphics cards, so this stands.

    Thanks, but I wanted to try and get away from constant updates. As mentioned, the Today only prices could be the actual prices in a month or so anyway. I want some nice specs (not quick ones) with info as Sibeer and I detailed in the example, and then in 6 months time can run this exercise again.

    I have been tracking parts and with a quid or two price change every week, this could make multiple updates become a chore.

    As above. I will be copying (quoting) these builds into the main Desktop sticky, and pointing people back to this thread should they use the build for extra Thanks. I shudder to think the amount of edits I have done on the Desktop sticky that these are going into (let alone the HTPC sticky) so want to try and keep things to a minimum.

    Thanks anyway! :smashin:
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    Theydon Bois Moderator

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    Nice, but we will leave full built systems for another time. This particular thread is for component parts for people building their system.
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    It's a lazy option fo sho :D
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    They are pretty slipshoddy in the updates at scan. I reckon you have till about 2PM Monday :)

    Seriously though the fact is that where and what is best for a budget DOES change every day. What is better is a set of guidelines and suggestions of what parts to look out for and approximate price.

    The main problem I can see with this is that everyone has a different focus. For intance my £350 Intel system is all about gaming on a budget and getting a decent hard disk in. It is a great budget all purpose sytem, but it is far from the ideal media system or server.
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    Theydon Bois Moderator

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    Getting some nice lists here, more please! :smashin:
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    sorry to sound like a noob but is that processor overclocked i wonder because it has 3GHz? im learning about all this computer wiz lol also what does the MHz mean on ram? the higher the better? sorry to go off topic i will post a few set ups later for you :)
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    AMD £500

    Case: Antec Three Hundred - £45
    Motherboard: MSI 770-C45 - £60
    CPU: AMD Phenom ll X2 550 Black Edition - £75
    Ram: Corsair TWIN3X2048-1333C9G - £33
    GPU: HIS HD 4770 512MB - £87
    Heatsink: OCZ Vendetta 2 - £24 (Custom Heatsink isnt needed unless you plan on overclocking)
    PSU: OCZ ModXStream Pro 500W - £58
    Hard drive: Western Digital Caviar Blue - £34
    Optical Drives:LG GH22NS40 - £19

    OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium E - Retail - £66


    Total Price: £500

    Notes -
    The OCZ Vendetta 2 is a custom heatsink and isnt needed unless you plan on overclocking the CPU. The CPU comes with a heatsink in the box and will work fine unless your overclocking.

    Source - CustomPC
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    Nope the E8400 isn't OC'ed it comes with a 3GHz clock speed,
    Regarding RAM, I myself don't understand the theory behind th front side bus speed. All I know is lets say your processor is running at 3.2GHz(3200MHz) then the fsb speed might be 400MHz, then the CPU runs at 400 MHz × 8 = 3200 MHz. Some motherboards allow you to vary these settings to achieve higher performance i.e overclocking. So yeah RAM has some similar theory so everything is linked, I'm sure a more knowledgeable user will give you a better answer:p

    Also I've already posted a £500 AMD setup so list another one;)Have a look at the thread starters first post:thumbsup:

    Dacads


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    Theydon Bois Moderator

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    Multiple lists of the same build/budget combo are fine. The more the merrier as people dont like a specific case, or brand of card etc. Add more info to your builds, and you are more likely to get others use it as a build of a base for one.
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    Theydon Bois Moderator

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    You will have to rethink this - its over £500, and just becasue I mentioned 5%, doesnt mean you have to use it - and you have gone nearly 10% over.
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    Theydon Bois Moderator

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    Can you elaborate on this please. The links from ebuyer dont come up with descriptions, so its hard to tell what is listed. If you and subsequent people can use the format:

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    Intel E8400 seems to be £125 on ebuyer now, not sure if I misread or the price has dropped:eek:
    Also changed case so total price is £505 now :)
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    Just as a heads up - you have added an after market cooler to the CPU, when one comes with the (retail) CPU. Now normally thats not a problem, but as we are working to a budget, you would be better off upgrading another component, and adding this as a 'recommended upgrade'
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    Carper-Josh £500 AMD Lifted straight out of issue 72 of Custom PC. Nothing wrong with that but admit it. :nono:

    My variation of the same article:

    Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-MA790XT-UD4......…Ebuyer……94.60

    Processer: AMD Phenom II X2 Duel Core 550 AM3 Black Edition..Ebuyer.74.13

    Graphics Card: ATI HD 4770 ………………….Play.Com……76.99……


    Hard Drive: Western Digital 500GB Caviar Blue …...Ebuyer......…37.98

    RAM: Corsair XMS- 4GB-DDR3……Ebuyer……..........….60.02


    DVD Drive: Sony AD7240S……………Ebuyer….............…..16.99

    Operating System: Microsoft Windows7 (Pre Pay).…Play.Com..…75.00


    ATX Case: Coolmaster 330 + CM460 PSU……………………..59.99


    TOTAL £495.70
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    Theydon Bois Moderator

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    There is if you dont mention it. :thumbsdow

    I should have spotted something when another post of his mentioned not knowing something about processors.

    Please do not pass other peoples work off as your own. I would have given you a thanks if you had mentioned it as CustomPCs build, well apart from the fact that it could be better (I mention heatsink vs budget above)
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    I too am a newcomer and novice so could you elaborate on "heatsink vs budget" please.
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    Hello, and welcome to the board :smashin:

    The comment I made is specific to this thread, and not one that is used normally. What I meant by it was that the build listed used a seperate heatsink rather than the one that comes with the CPU, and if you are working to a budget, like the thread indicates, is the £25 better off spent on upgrading the graphics card for instance, or a better CPU?

    Now obviously you could use the better heatsink to overclock the CPU, but not everyone wants to or needs to do so, and hence my original request for comments added to the builds to show the reasoning behind the choices. Seeing as how CJ used a build from a magazine, my request is moot.
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