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Bond 23 - Skyfall (2012)

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  1. brian s

    brian s Well-Known Member

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    He'd terminate the series.

    Bri
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    Clive Owen would be a good James Bond.
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    Anyone's better than Craig. I don't like either of the recent bond films. I don't like this new sensitive Bond. He should be cold and emotionless, a womaniser not a lover. Men should want to be him, not feel sorry for him. Search for 'James Bond Vesper' on Youtube and there's loads of soppy tribute videos probably made by people who lack balls.

    YouTube - Casino Royale - City of Lovers
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    brian s Well-Known Member

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    You're joking of course.
    Bri
  5. Pincho Paxton

    Pincho Paxton New Member

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    Well, I tried to warn everyone about the new Bond franchise, but nobody would listen.. Bond killed MGM. They took a risk, I saw that risk, I knew they would lose money on it, and now they are bankrupt.
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    brian s Well-Known Member

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    Their problems are not down to the Bond films. They've been in trouble for a very long time.
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    No. I'm not. I want bond to be more 2-dimensional. I don't care about his motivations or what drives his personality. The new films are trying to feminise and demystify him. I prefer the simplicity of the early bonds, they're pure escapism.
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    raigraphixs Well-Known Member

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    CR made almost $450m profit
    QOS made over $300m profit
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    Another word for that would be a Robot.
    They were in debt before that Pincho. :smashin:
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    $300 is $150 drop, that's a big drop.
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    brian s Well-Known Member

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    They're still not the reason for the demise of MGM.
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    MGM were in trouble way before the new Bonds if anything they kept them afloat that bit longer... So remind us not to listen to a word you say Pincho.
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    Have you seen OHMSS?

    He's definitely in love in that one, I didn't think 'ooh they've feminised him'!
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    Well I would have saved them with my Bond ideas, so you should listen.
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    :rotfl:

    You really are something else, have you cured cancer yet?
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    Christian Bale as Bond -

    M - 'Those are your orders 007, now get to work!'

    Bond - < mumbling something >

    M - 'Oh god not this again, who or what is bothering you?'

    Bond - < mumbles some dialogue, stops and looks at camera >

    M - 'Oh, forget it..'

    Q - 'Now pay attention 007, this box attaches to your lower jaw and invokes a response in the mandibular region that mimics comprehensible speech..'

    Bond - 'I don't like it'
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    If not he's working on it. It's only a moment away.

    Bri
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  18. LanceR

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    :rotfl:

    what a muppet!
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    The last two Bond films were not bond films.

    Just try and imagine a spoof like Austin Powers being made of those films!

    No crazy super villan, no super sized evil lairs/sets, no gadgets, No Humour at all and no Q!!!!! wth were they thinking.

    If I wanted to watch the Borne Identity, I would go to see that not a Bond film.

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    That's profit not box office takings, QOS spent over 100 Million more to make and with the editing was a crapper film, yet still took more at the box office.
    Even taking away the production cost the last 2 Bond films are amongst the top earners of the Bond films.

    Breakdown of cost and profits for the Bond films James Bond - Box Office History
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    The first Bond film made a lot of cash because of the great trailer that didn't deliver a great film. Nothing in the figures actually describes what the public saw in the end. The changes were a failure, and a traditional Bond would have made more money with a trailer of that calibre. I never trust these chart figures anyway, there are way too many reasons for people to lie at every stage of the chart structure.

    The Budget... lies to make the movie sound like a big expensive product.
    The Box Office takings on first week... Lies to make it sound like the movie is a huge success.

    etc..
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    Well if there saying the budget for the second was more than it was the second film did a lot better than we gave it credit for.

    On the other hand if its true apart from the the Connery films all the new Bonds profits dipped on there second outing.

    I though QOS was a very poor outing and instantly forgettable for me there's only a few thing I can recall one was the car chase and the other the
    blowing up of a building at the end
    , :(

    On one hand I'm glad they made Bond more gritty, on the other just went maybe a tad too far, From Russia with Love and Living daylights are where I think they got all the basics right albeit Living Daylights being my favorite and that was a step into bringing the the film into the style of the 2 aforementioned.

    Ill be sorry if MGM goes they have been responsable for way too many things Ive enjoyed to label them with Scores, Hundres etc. It wll be a sad say in the history of film making if the name goes.
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    What are you on about Pincho?

    Casino Royale is one of the best action film of the decade, its also one of the best rated bond film critically and even by fans.

    Casino Royale (2006) 8.0 rating.
    Casino Royale Movie Reviews, Trailers - Rotten Tomatoes 94% on RT, more than Avatar or 90% of the films released in 2009.

    The old bond films were great at their time, those little smirks done by Sean and Roger Moore ain't gonna work in this generation. Times have moved on and James Bond would have been a bomb if it continued the old traditions.

    The new bond films have a more gritty feel to it, Daniel Craig is probably the best and most serious actor to have been cast as 007 without a doubt.

    The old 007 films were great, enjoyable but never took themselves serious apart from the Brosnan ones.
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    Well, whatever I am on about, Bond's now no more, which is what I predicted, and it happened, so coincidence? Maybe a coincidence, but it seems that I say that something is going to happen, and when it does happen there are all these counter-stories behind why it happened. It's always .. oh MGM were already in trouble. They spent a huge amount on QOS, which suggests that they were still open to turning around their financial situation. Same with Nightmare On Elm Street remake. You can see that it will fail, nobody takes any notice, and when it fails it will not be for the crappy foam face, it'll be for some credit crunch crisis.
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    No it won't fail Horror is the best selling genre, it won't do bad.

    Same with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friday_the_13th_(2009_film) which made over 90 million, with 20 million budget.

    You wanna bet with Elm Street, no money included just our credibility on the line here? :smashin:
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    I would bet that it fails, but box office isn't the deciding factor. Any NOES will make the same minimum box office profit, even if Dale Winton made it. To me a failure is $400m profit compare to a possible $700m that it could have made, and acknowledgement in the future of movie history.
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    oh dear.

    you truly have the biggest ego on these forums but also give the beggest laugh with you lunatic pronouncements.

    I bet you are real fun to be around in the real world, I have images of a maniacal Stewie Griffin typing away with tears pouring down his face because no ones listening to his 'predictions'.
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    brian s Well-Known Member

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    Just ignore him. He won't go away but you'll feel better about it.

    :D
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    No the budgets are huge. Otherwise they wouldn't be able to afford me.
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    Hi MrD is it you that works in the industry?
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