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BMW labour rates!!

Discussion in 'Motoring' started by Digger, May 25, 2007.

  1. Digger

    Digger Member

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    Just rang BMW Battersea to enquire about diagnosing ABS light that's appeared on the dash.

    Have a guess what there labour rate is per hour before vat is added??
  2. mundstick

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    Well, seeing as I was quoted a rate of £95 per hour by a Vauxhall Dealership I would have to say abot £150 per hour.

    Robbing Ba*****s :mad:
  3. Cyland101

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    Yep I would say between 150 - 180...... it sucks!
  4. Digger

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    £120 ex vat! My car is nearly 11 years old. . .20 hrs labour and it will be a write off:devil:

    Well I have managed to persuade a different BMW dealership to get a mechanic to plug in and diagnose the fault when i turn up today on the basis I am concerned about driving all bank holiday w/e with an unsafe car. . . . .as long as i know what the fault is i can get an independent to source the part and fit it when in stock. Should I feel guilty I am preying on the $tealer's assumption I will book it in with them?? Nope :D
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    Many functions can be programmed into a BMW key and I would like some changes made to the programming in mine but not at those rates so I haven't bothered.
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    I thought it was bad enough when Vauxhall charged me an additional £60 for diagnostic on top of the service charge when I had my car serviced and MOT'd a few days ago

    Worse thing is the car only failed the MOT on one thing. I needed a new offside front tyre. Had to buy one of their cheap unbranded tyres to avoid having to pay a retest fee.

    Wouldn't have minded for what they charged me for the tyre I could have paid an extra tenner and gone to Costco over the road and got a Mitchelin Pilot Primacy tyre :rolleyes:

    As the car is now 7 years old and despite have a full dealer service history, this is the last time it goes to the dealer. It's simply not worth it now
  7. Digger

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    . . .thats another thing. I need my rears replaced so got onto bmwland forums to get suggestions and they came up with Falken Tyres which seem to have a good reputation. Purchased four without checking local tyre fitters' policies. They wont fit customer supplied tyres even though I can prove they are brand new. Will hope my MOT centre will fit them next week.
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    I'm no expert, but the ABS light was an almost constant light on my dashboard for 12 months. I had three out of the four wheel sensors go in the space of a year. Is your Beemer a five series by any chance?

    I've found a really good independant BMW dealer that had all the diagnostic equipment and he charges a more exceptable £50-£60 per hour. Each sensor cost less than a ton per corner to be fixed including parts, labour and VAT.

    Worse car I've owner (BMW 535i) for reliability and that's saying something considering as we owned some shockers in our time (Ford Galaxy :eek: )
  9. Digger

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    its a 3 series coupe '96 plate. Had a sensor go a year back cost £51 plus labour and vat. . .so about £100. Need to get it done or it will fail mot next week
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  12. Digger

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    Might be a good idea. Did yours come with the interface (Carsoft?) software or will i have to source that separately
  13. Digger

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    Hmmm...BMW Carsoft will set me back £2k!!!
  14. breszh

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    All I did for my Skoda was buy a vag-com cable from this guy - http://myworld.ebay.co.uk/e-cafe/ and downloaded the shareware version of Ross-Tech's Vag Com software from here http://www.ross-tech.com/vag-com/download/index.html

    I've run on my 2001 Fabia Comfort and my 2007 Fabia vRS, fixed a problem on the 2001 and confirmed no probs with the 2007.

    So, for £15 I can run diagnostics on the car before taking it to a dealer.

    Like I said, not tried the BMW stuff, but then again I'll probably never own a BMW!
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    that exactly why i call them 'stealers' rather than 'dealers'

    i love bmw's but i'd never buy a new one.. they just take the mick on the pricing!
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    Wasn't there something brought in a few years back where for minor things that could be easily checked as long as it was within a period of time you did not have to pay the fee again? Would have thought a new tyre was one of those.

    Edit... found this http://www.motester.co.uk/mot-retest.html, but you still have to pay half the fee :( ...
  18. alexs2

    alexs2 Senior Moderator

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    I think that the main dealer prices being quoted here seem very much typical of the going rates.

    My(Audi) dealer quotes about £100-120/hour,and of course as long as the car is both under warranty and worth a reasonable amount,you're pretty much hooked into the dealer networks for servicing.

    Any car that I've had outside of that period I've found independent servicing for.

    Most laughable bill I had was from a VW dealer which looked at an old estate I had some yrs ago....it was misfiring(which being a diesel almost certainly bolied down to injectors or fuel pump)so being stuck for time I took it to the local main dealer...

    Then the fun began....1 day to strip the top-end down...quote for 4 new injectors,one turbo, 4 new glo-plugs,and .... we dont have any of the parts!...but the cost would be £1500(7 times what the car was then worth!)

    They kindly put it back together,charged me £350 for the privilege and I managed to limp it off to the nearest independent diesel specialist who immediately said...this is a common fault on old VW diesels...the fuel pump mounting bolts have sheared altering the timing...cost...£60 all inc.

    Anyway...once presented with the cause and the cost,there was a lot of backpedalling from the dealer and a £350 refund.
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    I think you will find that this is not the case.

    As long as the car is serviced at the correct times with genuine parts(?) they have to still honour the warranty if something fails, even if you take it to a non franchised service centre for its service.

    Not 100% sure but i think im right!
  20. Solomon Grundy

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    If the car drives fine and you're not going to sell it on I would just remove the bulb from behind the dashboard to get it through its MOT...obviously sort it once it's got through but it gives you more time to have a shop around!
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    I think you are quite correct in saying that....I should perhaps have been more precise in saying that you are certainly given the feeling that dealer servicing is almost mandatory,and certainly the resale value may be hit by a non-dealer history if you trade your car back into the dealer network.
  22. Ian J

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    You used to be tied in to the dealerships but after a test case in court a couple of years ago the manufacturers backtracked and agreed that they had to honour warranties as long as the car had been serviced in accordance with the manufacturers recommendations by a competent garage.

    In practice people still take the more expensive cars to the dealerships for the first few years as they feel that "Full Manufacturer Service History" puts a higher value on their car.
  23. zelnik

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    Normally on the E36 it's generally just an ABS/Speed Sensor but worst case scenario it will be the ECU which costs circa £5-700 new.

    I'm not sure if it's common for the ECU to go on the E36 but it's certainly extremely common on the E39 (5 Series) we had about 40-50 clients coming to us for it to be fixed.

    If this is the case do a google as there's a guy in the states we used to send our ones to to get refurbed and his work was brilliant, unfortunately think i've lost his details now :(

    Unfortunately I'm heading to Spain for a month on Friday as I live locally to you and have Carsoft (legit copy!) but if memory serves me correctly Carsoft just pops up with a sensor failure and it's only once you replace it and it doesn't fix the problem it's pops up a 'possibly' ECU fault.

    If you're still having problems once i'm back i'll throw it on diagnostics for you free of charge.

    Good luck!

    I would strongly urge against the above person mentioning disabling the bulb to the abs light, this is a dangerous fault and needs to be fixed stat. I remember having the same problem on my E36 M3 as I was driving it popped on and abs was disabled. Rather dangerous! Luckily it went out within a few seconds and never returned!

    PS: There's a BMW/Mercedes specialist on the borders of Merton/Tooting http://www.amclondon.com/contact.php
  24. danaldinho7

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    I had my MOT done at a local ATS on a wednesday it cost £50 failed because of a bulge on one of the tyres

    didn't drive it for the rest of the week, rang up on friday asking if I could have a retest on it on saturday and they couldn't do it and being a bank holiday it would have to be tuesday

    saturday drove to see dad, took it to his friend who is a tyre dealer who replaced all my tyres (Continentals ATS wanted £86 for the one) at trade price £60 drove home took it on tuesday they looked at the tyre saw it was fine and sort me out with a test certificate for free

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