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2011 D Series Samsung Firmware issues and Poor PQ.

Discussion in 'Plasma TVs' started by gaz2810i, Nov 3, 2011.

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  1. olisun

    olisun Member

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    AFAIK currently you cannot downgrade the firmware by just copying the lower version into an USB stick.

    The TV will fail to recognise any firmware lower than the current one installed.
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    Sorry to have wasted your time. :(
  3. gaz2810i

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    I know you can't but I have a D8000 on F/W 1015 and I want to update to 1016 as I don't want to update to 1018.1 :(
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    You haven't, any suggestions welcomed.
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    Out of curiosity what will be gained with going from 15-16.1?

    Did someone not post the they had the same issues on 16.1 (fluctuating black borders) as the people on 18? I could be wrong there :blush:
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    Anything yet? I contacted Samsung but the guy said that there were no issues with 1018 and I must have a faulty set. I told him it was a common complaint on the AV forums and the guy told me that I should'nt pay any attention to that!:suicide:
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    Yup, thats the standard answer i get from any manufacturer :thumbsdow
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    Hi gaz I have got 1016.3 saved on my laptop just pm me your email address.
  9. bladerunner8801

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    It stands to reason that Samsung must have banks of these TVs running constantly and monitored all the time to spot potential problems, the fact that reports that the new D series is running cooler but with lower overall brightness because of the later firmware updates must mean Samsung decided that they needed to issue a firmware which reduced the power consumption to make the TV run cooler, I think if people tested the power consumption before and after the update they may find there is a sizeable difference, the problem is the firmware updates are making the reviews worthless because the reviews refer to superior performing Televisions not to the current ones with firmwares past a certain number.
  10. longy

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    Spot on. Thats why I got my board replaced to get the older firmware back up and running the difference is huge
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    Longy what sources are you watching what is the usual footage you refer to when you are gauging the performance of your D series Black level? since you have seen both lower and later firmwares in action, I have November Build 64D8000 came with 1018 already installed, it turned up faulty on switching on though with a 2" thick Horizontal Black line through the centre of the screen the line is jet black and shows how not very black the blacks in the picture really are, booked in for an engineer on Tuesday.
  12. longy

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    Hi there, sources used is On board freesat, PS3, Xbox 360, performance wise the image has lot more contrast on the older firmware which is vital for day time viewing.
    On the new firmware its like there's a mist over the screen less depth to the picture even the Mrs notice's the difference. Black level wise I don't think it's darker but with the better contrast it gives the illusion.
    bladerunner can you check light reflections on your screen do you get rainbows like http://api.viglink.com/api/click?fo...IMG_2737.JPG&jsonp=vglnk_jsonp_13217863716116
    Or dulling of reflections like this http://api.viglink.com/api/click?fo...IMG_2747.JPG&jsonp=vglnk_jsonp_13217864298477


    Many thanks longy
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    It really is very obvious how the contrast/luminance has changed.

    Mine was calibrated at around firmware 1008 and the picture was far better during the day than it is now. The 1018/9 by comparison during the day now is not really bright enough.

    I don't want to play around with the calibrated settings in case Samsung sort the picture out but I don't have a great deal of contrast/cell light left to boost anyway. :(
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    Can u just double check your Eco Sensor setting in the System menu, make sure it's disabled?

    My 51" D6900 seemed very dark on the first day, and it did look like the brightness was dropping more than it should between settings, and was gradual as if the Eco Sensor was active. I double checked the setting (may have activated then de-activated to make sure it "knew" it was off). After the first day it was a lot better, and I haven't noticed the gradual drops seen on the first day. Someone else has also said they checked their setting after 1019 and the Eco Sensor was activated.
    Anyone else see this after 1019?
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    Longy I get the Rainbow type reflections on this November Build 64D8000, why do you ask?
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  16. longy

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    Someone on another forum said Samsung changed the filter on the later builds to stop the peeling screen problem.
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    What is the verdict is the Rainbow effect the newer or older type filter?
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    Unfortunately it was already off. Tried putting it on and off just in case.

    No change.
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    Does anybody know what the differences between the 1017.3 and 1018.1 F/W's were. Did 1017.3 have the same poor PQ effects as 1018.1. When I initially updated they had both been released on the same day but I was too late for 1017.3 and went straight to 1018.1
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    Your's is the newer type so :thumbsup:
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    Difficult to tell from reading this thread.

    If someone buys a new 64D8000 from the store, what FW do you suspect is on it?

    If not the "problematic" version, should we immediately turn off auto-update?

    I don't believe any store will let us check the version before we purchase it (easily), as that requires opening the box and turning the set on?

    Thanks,
    ELmO
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  22. bladerunner8801

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    I noticed that the long number under the barcode label on the Box ends in 11 the TV I have has a November build date and came with 1018 on it, need more feedback though to see if the numbers mean anything? my 64D8000 turned up faulty 2" thick Black line across the centre, wish I had plugged it in and checked it before delivery people left.
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    If true, thanks. So we don't want it to end in 11? Is an october set safe?

    Normally you may not turn the TV on if it's been cold outside for a while to let the set warm up a bit...
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  24. bladerunner8801

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    Its just a guess about the numbers if we get more feedback from others we can see if the last digits under the Barcode on the Box refer to Build date?

    If you get an October build you are more likley to get the 1016 or earlier, we has customers should not be needing to be doing this with expensive TV's though its about time Samsung and others began releasing TV's that are at there best from day one and not releasing firmwares that decrease the TV's quality.
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    I thought it was the 9th number in the serial number. After 9 for Sept it goes to a for Oct, b for Nov etc.
  26. bladerunner8801

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    Is that for the D8000 range? my serial shows the letter A has the 9th digit, on the Barcode though it shows 111 has the last 3 digits so it may refer to the build date but this is only an assumption need others to confirm? if the build date can be confirmed without opening the box this may assist people asking retailers to check there stock for a pre 1017/18 firmware?
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    I'm now waiting a guy from Samsung to try to sort out the poor brigtness issue.... I'll keep you informed.
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    After the A for October there should be five other digits. For example if the five numbers are 00123 this most likely means that it is the 123rd TV manufactured that month.

    The other barcode on the label will be the same for all D8000s of that size, I would think.
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    Mine is a November build though and the letter B is the 8th digit in the serial not the 9th?
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    Thanks for looking into it guys, you are nicer to me than the AVS Forum was. ;)
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