[Gazaman]

Just saw this on offer at gamestation and wondered if they are actually any good?

Nyko Xbox 360 Intercooler: Black (Xbox 360) - free UK delivery at Gamestation.co.uk

For the sake of a tenner i thought i might pick one up later if they are worthwhile.

Thanks

Gaz

[Gazaman]

Oh and i forgot to ask if they are loud? I'm guessing another fan will produce extra noise!

Cheers

Gaz

[Sniper Ash6]

Avoid the intercoolers
I considered one ages ago and then found out they kill your xbox
this is because the xbox power supply only gives enough power to the xbox that it needs, if the intercooler is sat where it should on the power of the xbox then it steals vital power from the xbox's components slowly starving them of their required power and killing your xbox

PS: If you had searched for the topic before posting then you would have seen it has been discussed multiple times - http://www.avforums.com/forums/search.php

[Gazaman]

Thanks mate,

I'll avoid then

Would have done a search but i'm at work so i can only grab the odd minute here and there on the internet (not allowed for personal use) so not had time to look into it and i was going to pick one up after work but i'll not bother now.

Thanks again

Gaz

[Sniper Ash6]

Im suprised they sell them after all the reports of problems that they cause and everything

Some even cause burning around the power inlet on the console which means MS wont honour the warranty as a third party peripheral has killed it
I shall find a pic of the burning they can cause

[Sniper Ash6]

Found the pic: http://www.instructables.com/files/d...79R.MEDIUM.jpg

There were a lot of people that modded them to use their own powersupply so not causing damage to the 360 but its a lot of mucking around that could easily be solved by keeping the 360 clean (eg dust not blocking vents) and in an open area not blocking the vents

[The Bass]

Yeah they're pretty good, at killing your console . Do what Sniper Ash says and just make sure it has some breathing room by the vents and as with any computer or console, try to keep it far off the floor to avoid dust. If your 360 is destined to die it is inevitable. I think it's what that Final Destination film is based off actually .

[GMC79]

Yeah dont bother, i binned mine after making strange noises.
Just hampers the airflow more than helping aswell as the apparant power issues. Somebody made money on them tho.
Totally unnecessary.

[mattclarkie]

Not all coolers use the consoles power, although the Nyko ones do.

This one is powered via the usb http://www.gizmora.com/?p=1881 but I still wouldn't get it.
But all coolers are crap.

[Sniper Ash6]

Originally Posted by GMC79

Yeah dont bother, i binned mine after making strange noises.
Just hampers the airflow more than helping aswell as the apparant power issues. Somebody made money on them tho.
Totally unnecessary.

As well as not being good for the console i have been told they are very loud

[GMC79]

Originally Posted by Sniper Ash6

As well as not being good for the console i have been told they are very loud

Yeah it was, tenner down the drain.
After all the hype bought one and just ended up in the bin.
Now my 360 sits in my rack and temps at back of 360 often hit 50c with no issues.
Not even had a crash since 360 fixed near 2 years ago. Is used less tho these days.

Just avoid all gimmicks fullstop.

[Sniper Ash6]

Originally Posted by GMC79

Yeah it was, tenner down the drain.
After all the hype bought one and just ended up in the bin.
Now my 360 sits in my rack and temps at back of 360 often hit 50c with no issues.
Not even had a crash since 360 fixed near 2 years ago. Is used less tho these days.

Just avoid all gimmicks fullstop.

I think mine normally kicks out ~40c when playing games and it is fairly well ventilated

[scsracing]

There are ones now think its called the TS that use there own power supply instead which makes them ok to use.Although i just put a 12v fan in my xbox and brought a turtle beach to hide the noise of the fan.Xbox is like a air conditioning unit now

[GMC79]

I have small thermometer clock stuffed at back (was just curious.lol) and yeah averages 45c in my rack.
Wonder how many intercoolers were sold? Ceretainly made money from nothing there.
No need for these things as the 360 at dash or playing from hdd is very quiet, or mine is. and dont need cooled either.

[Sniper Ash6]

Originally Posted by GMC79

I have small thermometer clock stuffed at back (was just curious.lol) and yeah averages 45c in my rack.
Wonder how many intercoolers were sold? Ceretainly made money from nothing there.
No need for these things as the 360 at dash or playing from hdd is very quiet, or mine is. and dont need cooled either.

I did that same, was curious about the heat it kicked out as well (with a clock that has a thermometer built in and one sorta probe one on a long cable

They probably did make a lot of money yeah

[Dinky Dragon]

Mine is an replacement fan, you could always install one of those if you dont mind voiding the warrenty. Mine looks good and sounds good!

Its much cooler too, its also a fairly basic mod that gives good results.

[kcwood100]

to be honest if your xbox is in a well ventilated place you dont need one but if its in a confinde space then they blow the warm air from your xbox back in so id say big no no.

[mattclarkie]

My 360s have practically been in fridges and they have still overheated and died. You can never keep a 360 cool enough, but intercoolers do not solve the problem.

[Lambo mad]

I got one and it works great
Make sure it's the ex model (or something like that)
The one with metal round the main connector
The plastic one is the one that caused problems that you read about on the net with the melting and short circuit

Yeah they're fairly noisey but not defening
They seem to do the job anyway as you can feel all the cool air getting sucked in through the vents

I got one and i'm not regretting it . . . yet lol

[Sniper Ash6]

still uses the console's power through that connector though

[Lambo mad]

Yeah but i got a power pack that does 205W rather than the 170W powerpack
Plus I'm pretty sure they would have hooked it up in parallel, not series (as SOME amount of research and engineering would have gone into making it) so it won't be drawing from the xbox

[Dinky Dragon]

Mine is a replacement fan, uses less power, moves more air, is quieter and has red LEDs!

[Lambo mad]

Originally Posted by Dao Fei Long

Mine is a replacement fan, uses less power, moves more air, is quieter and has red LEDs!

Voids warentee though . . .

[Dinky Dragon]

Mines got a few more mods anyway so that's null. Plus whenever Ive has any problems Ive fixed it myself

You do know if you Red Ring, MS will check to see if you have used an external cooler, that also voids your warranty.

[Lambo mad]

There's no evidence of it

[Dinky Dragon]

Not to the untrained eye. haha they know what to look for. Primarily burn marks from the two metal surfaces becoming hot and the intercooler 'rubbing off' on it.

You dont have to believe me, but I have no reason to lie.

External fans are silly, two different sized fans spinning at different RPM? Its an accident waiting to happen. Its just like pushing and pulling the same thing.

Some are powered by the console thus increasing the chance of a burn out or E74 error (Which I have got myself due to LED mods, External Fans use up much more power) And those which are Externally powered will be useless anyway, as pointed out above.

They are bad news, and a good way for companies to make extra money on the 360's reliability issues.

Heres an article from Wiki on Nyko in particular -

Microsoft has found that the Nyko Intercooler 360 for the Xbox 360 draws the necessary power from the console to power the whole unit. This may lead to hardware failure, or the unit may burn. Users across various forums have reported that the Intercooler damaged their consoles beyond repair. Microsoft recommends against using unlicensed accessories such as the Intercooler. Nyko has since produced a new form of Intercooler which can be exchanged for free via customer service. The company has also provided new consoles to all the users who reported damage to their console.

And your proof -

We've seen our fair share of products that aren't exactly "as advertised," but it seems that Nyko's Intercooler might actually up the stakes by accomplishing the complete opposite of what it's intended to do. While the Xbox 360 has experienced a good bit of "technical difficulties" in its short life, the Intercooler accessory was hailed as a product that nixed the seemingly widespread overheating issues; however, new reports are suggesting that the device "steals too much power" from the oh-so-needy innards of Microsoft's console, leading to eventual failure of the components. It was noted that the Intercooler can even elicit "brown discolouration" around the system's AC input before users are faced with the ominous red ring, and if this tale-tell sign is witnessed by RMA processors, your return becomes null and void for using an "unlicensed peripheral." Although Nyko respectfully defends its questionably useful product, Microsoft doesn't appear to lend the same appreciation -- but regardless, there's still a few (unofficial) methods left to ensure your Xbox 360 stays below the boiling point, cool?

[Lambo mad]

Fair play
There's too much doubt about the product to convince myself to keep it on

Note that i have taken it off abruptly lol

[Dinky Dragon]

Your Welcome

May your 360 serve you a long and fruitful life!

[Lambo mad]

If it breaks now that i have taken it off i shall be coming after YOU DAO FEI LONG!!

Lol nah only joking

[Dinky Dragon]

If it breaks, Ill fix it.

My concern isnt with the Console breaking, its the increased fire risk. Ive had too many bad experiences with the stuff, hell I am 1 square away from having an extinguisher in my bedroom.