[Gary D]

Originally Posted by PooonTang

F1=Snooze1 i just don't see the appeal of the real thing which puts me off games of it, plus imagine playing it online with collisions on, no one would ever finish a race!

pooon, an F1 game like we should have had F1 GP3 by the GOD that is Geoff Crammond would have been genius. It still makes me want to cry that it never came out on the xbox as it should have done back in '02. yet **** like "Juiced" is given a release.

I love F1, i understand that not everyone will like it, but thats cool, nice to have the option for a change


Gary

[Pooon]

Crammond - is that the guy who did Microprose Formula One years ago? that was a good game

[CAS FAN]

F1 - Great sport (or at least it was before they messed about with it so much). I've been to quite a few GP's (Spa '92, Monza '98, Silverstone '98, '99) and used to religiously watch every GP on TV but I must admit that F1 does not make the best video games.

I love doing time trials etc. but real races are tricky (especially if you play them with damage etc. on). As Pooon says, online they would just be pointless.

Give me a good GT style racer any day, and that's coming from a GP fan.

[Tejstar]

Originally Posted by Gary D

I just hope the 360 get a decent F1 game!!

F1 games have never really appealed to me. The last game I really got into was Indycar 500 and that was a long time ago!

[Kopite4Ever]

latest update from bizarre today:

http://www.bizarreonline.net/index.p...mments=1&id=44

[CAS FAN]

I thought that this quote was spot on from Bizarre's design manager Nick Davies..

So they'll have games like PGR3, Resi 5, Dead or Alive 4 and Pro Evo and that means I'll be buying one. A great racer, a great footy game, something where you can beat your mates up and some zombies, that's my highly expert opinion on a good line-up for a console, and they seem to have that covered.

I couldn't agree more, although he missed of a great FPS title and the 360 certainly has a few of those coming out! With Final Fantasy covering the RPG genre I think they have most bases covered!

[Kopite4Ever]

totally agree with him bar DOA4. its one game im not wowed by. playablily from DOA3 for me was shocking i didnt like it at all. and graphically from what ive seen from DOA4 i aint to impressed, there are far superior looking games at the mo im seeing and they all devolping on the same kit. gimme virtua fighter a real fighting game any day of the week gotta rock the boat now and again

[CAS FAN]

The DOA games are good for a laugh and personally I think the graphics in DOA4 look superb!

OK so it's not a patch on VF4 evo but then what is . It's also easier to pick up for a quick laugh and the problem with VF4 is that once you get good at it nobody will pay you.

[Kopite4Ever]

i know gfx arnt everything but for me there dosnt seem a big leap from DOA3 in gfx terms. sure the enviroments will be better. im gonna reserve total judgement till i play it hoping it on a free demo disk with the console but id rather play VF. problem is i love that but dont have the time to master it and end up getting my ass wooped by my 14 yr old cousin who adored it i hit him over the head for real though without getting my ass whoooped let the little one's know where they stand. this has given me an idea for a thread but i wont clutter this with it

[gandley]

Just downloaded the latest gears of war demo. Its in 720p and is in game code.

Absolutly brilliant(except its a 102mb demo) Looks like a top PC FPS with all setting maxed out on a 7800gtx, but wait a minute its on a £299 console called the xbox360. sweet

[Tejstar]

Originally Posted by CAS FAN

OK so it's not a patch on VF4 evo but then what is

But VF4 Evo is rock solid, that game would take a lifetime to master!

[Kopite4Ever]

cant let this die under the hype of the price. some new pics to see

http://www.xboxyde.com/news_1858_en.html

[Pooon]

Kopite - you must of missed all of this from that site:

I’ve been lucky enough today to go in a private demonstration of Project Gotham Racing 3 with Nick Davies of Bizarre Creations. Here are my impressions from what he said and what I’ve seen.

Nick Davies first showed us a PowerPoint presentation of what they wanted to achieve in the game, with a few screenshots too, most of them already released. Here are the main points he really wanted us to understand:
- PGR3 should feel like a real sport, with real champions
- You play how you want, anywhere you want
- All cars can at least reach 170 mph, no smaller cars like VW Golf.
- Gotham TV is a very important aspect of the experience.
- There are about 4.000 spectators you can see in each track. They all react to what’s happening on the track. They can encourage or laugh at you, and of course take a few steps back in terror if you crash near them. Every animation has been motion captured.
- Every car is composed of about 40.000 polygons for the outside, and the same number for the inside. One shot I had never seen before was a fully textured model of the inside of a car, and it looked fantastic. The leather looked really realistic.
- Almost everything in the game is unlocked right from the start. Bizarre does not want to discourage people by having them tediously unlock everything for online racing.
- There will be online tournaments and a leaderboard system.
- The matching system will be very accurate, allowing good players to play with good players, and bad drivers like me to actually have a chance to have some fun.
- The kudos system will also be much more accurate, and will be able to reward you if you do a better style of power slide for example.
- Gotham TV should feel very much like a true TV channel. They want people to be able to use it as easily as a digital TV box.
- There will be some team racing and when I mentioned cooperative game play all I got was a smile and a no comment reply.

Now for the most important part of the presentation. Nick changed the input on the very nice Samsung LCD display and there it was. PGR3, running right before my eyes!
Let me state first that this was a rather old build, running on the oldest version of the black beta kits. The game was very obviously in development, with lots of graphical bugs and a very low frame rate, something like 10 or 15 FPS.
But it already looked so incredible! This was running on the same Tokyo track as shown in the latest trailer, and except for the numerous visual bugs and the very low resolution textures of this debug build, it looked exactly the same. Only this time it was playable!
Of course I did not have the chance to play myself, but Nick managed to show us a few interesting things. First and very noticeable was the awesome motion blur. Even at this low frame rate, the sense of speed was already exciting thanks to a quite natural looking motion blur. Every fast moving object on the screen was blurred very naturally and accordingly to his speed and distance from the camera. Of course other players’ cars will be blurred too. And yes I asked and it will be used in game play as well as replays.
The car was behaving very well to each bump and small jumps of the road, but it was difficult to see if it was accurate or not because of the low frame rate. Nick also detached the camera and got it to face the spectators. They are not very detailed, but they still look very nice and move very well.
We also got the chance to see the true cockpit view running and it was also excellent. It looks like there is a freelook mode that allows you to turn your viewpoint around the car, but maybe it's just the debug build. And yes every gauge was moving in the dashboard. This build did not have any sound so I can't unfortunately comment on that aspect of the game. I do not doubt it will be as good as the visuals though.
Update: I forgot to mention that we saw a few examples of the damages on the cars. They are about the same as in PGR2, mostly because it's already really difficult to get the license as it is I guess. Also there was no HUD yet in the game.
We did not get to see more of the game than one car and one track, and even with all the bugs and low frame rate, PGR3 did not fail to impress me at all. This is definitely my most awaited Xbox 360 game

[Kopite4Ever]

i did see it mate it was posted later than those pic's. i just havnt had a chance to properly browse on here since then

[Pooon]

Your excuses don't cut it with me boy

[Kopite4Ever]

i dont justify myself to a mancunian

[Munkey Boy]

Originally Posted by Kopite4Ever

i dont justify myself to a mancunian

LOL Pooon a manc? He wishes! You've obviously never heard his Chas'n'Dave tones on Live before!

[Kopite4Ever]

just going on the avatar mate. come to think of it how stupid could i be manc avatar = cockey

[Kopite4Ever]

All i can say is me lord oh lord oh lord its looking better day by day

[Gary D]

Originally Posted by Kopite4Ever

All i can say is me lord oh lord oh lord its looking better day by day

my grin has just crossed the international date line its so wide - bugger me

Gary

[MacReady]

Originally Posted by Kopite4Ever

All i can say is me lord oh lord oh lord its looking better day by day

Sweet baby Jeebus on a tricycle

[Kopite4Ever]

aye she is a beaut

pooney aint posted because he is furiously ermmmmm entertaining himself no offense poon you just love your damn car games

[CAS FAN]

Originally Posted by Kopite4Ever

All i can say is me lord oh lord oh lord its looking better day by day

WOW! That is outstanding!! The reflection detail is just stunning - it's all so lifelike!

[Kopite4Ever]

must admit IMO its the best shot of the game they have released so far. in fact id boldly state IMO of course its the best Screen shot of any game ive seen on 360. just pipped GOW

[Tejstar]

Wowsers - just over 3 months away!

[Pooon]

.......and i'm spent!
PGR3 is gonna rock, gimmie gimmie gimme, soon you will all be my biatches on the track mwha ha ha

[Kopite4Ever]

revive this thread with some new pic's all be it not as impressive as the last one i posted

http://www.xboxyde.com/news_1903_en.html

[Gary D]

Looking round Smiths today i found a mag "360" (doesn't appear to have a website)

Its PGR3 article states: (sorry if posted before)

Graphics:
"...ONE bridge in PGR3 contains the same amount of poligons as an ENTIRE city area in PGR2"

Gotham TV:
"...we believe over 30,000 people will be able to spectate simultaneously, possibly more"
(Give us a wave Pooon 200 members sat at home watching, beer in hand..... wide eyed children sat on the floor; .....expectant, .......hoping*...... will "The Pooonster", the local hero, carry the Forums hopes of victory, battling againest the odds or will he just crash and burn and get laughed at? ...........................no pressure )

* think, Michael Bay, montage slow mo shot, boys, girls all races, all colours. With dramatic pompous music.

Crowds:
"...play online and the number of people in the crowd will also reflect your current rank; the higher it is the more bodies in the crowd..."

Cars:
"...Each Car is made up of 80,000 polygons compered with 10,000 for PGR2. Each car uses 30 different sound effects for its engine, PGR2 used 3...."


Gary

[Pooon]

Originally Posted by Gary D

Gotham TV:
"...we believe over 30,000 people will be able to spectate simultaneously, possibly more"
(Give us a wave Pooon 200 members sat at home watching, beer in hand..... wide eyed children sat on the floor; .....expectant, .......hoping*...... will "The Pooonster", the local hero, carry the Forums hopes of victory, battling againest the odds or will he just crash and burn and get laughed at? ...........................no pressure )

* think, Michael Bay, montage slow mo shot, boys, girls all races, all colours. With dramatic pompous music.[/b]

Nice one Gary, i'll see waht i can do

....and i quite Michael Bay, usually good no-brain popcorn fun(exc Pearl harbour)

[Kopite4Ever]