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HOWTO: Sky through DVB-S card within MCE *Part 4*

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Old 09-07-2012, 8:46 PM   #91
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Why don't you test it? I did once with MediaPortal and it didn't record at all, that's why in the end I moved the card reader and OSCam to an always-on server so I'd never need to wait for the card reader to initialise after resume.
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Old 10-07-2012, 12:30 AM   #92
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actually i didn't make that clear. i was wondering whether having an encrypted recording starting before oscam had initialised would then somehow prevent oscam from initalising rather than would it affect the recording.

i could test but with significant others this is easier said than done and i just wondered if i could rule this out. anyway seems to be working fine now!
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Old 10-07-2012, 12:12 PM   #93
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Hi Markus,

I don't think it would stop oscam starting up, but suspect you'd end up with a failed recording.

It was partly down to these issues, I went back to the dreambox/technomate box. There were just too many problems getting the card reader working effectively. WAF was seriously reduced when I was testing it.

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Old 10-07-2012, 1:57 PM   #94
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thanks Tony, it must have been me messing around too much. i'm happy with missing the recording if its taking place immediately after booting cos the likelihood is its only a partial recording anyway.
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Old 21-07-2012, 11:31 AM   #95
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Anyone took the leap to 4.5 of TV Source yet?
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Old 21-07-2012, 12:54 PM   #96
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not yet. i'm going to try it next week as i'm off work when i do a fresh install and swapping my happauge tuners for the quad tbs one. week away first!

also i meant to add, i'm not terribly excited about it. I'm a WMC user so i will only use the external recorder when its better than WMC. From what i understand the external recorder still has the same shortcomings as WMC when making overlapping recordings of the same stream and more importantly the scheduling clients are some way short of WMC imo

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Old 22-07-2012, 8:49 AM   #97
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Anyone took the leap to 4.5 of TV Source yet?
yes, had problems with partial recordings due to signal loss, and now back on 4.1.1 until they fix the problems with it. Seems to mainly affect TBS tuners, from what I can see. Hopefully Oberon and the team can sort it soon.

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Old 22-07-2012, 11:14 AM   #98
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were you using the external recorder or WMC tony?
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Old 22-07-2012, 4:16 PM   #99
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were you using the external recorder or WMC tony?
WMC - I don't have the connected edition at this point. Not needed it in our house, yet

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Old 03-08-2012, 9:22 PM   #100
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hi guys, i've been having a bit of trouble with the card reader recently. i'm rebuilding the HTPC over the weekend as i'm putting in the TBS card and it seems a good time so maybe this will fix it but i don't seem to be able to get anywhere at the moment. i get this output https://dl.dropbox.com/u/39548367/Ne...20Document.txt when oscam runs. as far as i can see there seems to be some problem with the card reader but my entitlements also appear to have run out (although it stopped working before this). i tried looking at system restore and found a critical update which seems to have been installed by windows immediately before the problems started, however the system restore didn't change anything. does the oscam output tell you anything?

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Old 04-08-2012, 11:21 AM   #101
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Hello,

Upgraded from 3.1 (or whatever it was) to 4.5 yesterday. Seems absolutely fine and nice to be able to do all the work from a web browser.

No partial recordings at this stage. Hurray!

Ben.
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Old 04-08-2012, 12:00 PM   #102
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i just noticed something i hadn't before while putting the dreambox back in. there's an out terminal for the antennae, can i not just wire this direct to the tv card and get back the lost feed that way? i still have hope for the card reader but the dreambox is so stable if i can get back the feed that it needs then it still seems the most reliable solution to me. does anyone have experience of using the out antennae on a dreambox?

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Old 05-08-2012, 11:28 PM   #103
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yes, had problems with partial recordings due to signal loss, and now back on 4.1.1 until they fix the problems with it. Seems to mainly affect TBS tuners, from what I can see. Hopefully Oberon and the team can sort it soon.

Tony
tony, what problems are you seeing with regards to signal loss? i've had the occasional problem with a weak signal being reported since installing the 6984 and 4.5.

also, i still haven't got my entitlements back despite putting the card back in the dreambox. is there any way i can force these to be refreshed?
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Old 06-08-2012, 11:27 PM   #104
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faulty DM500??

has anyone had a DM500 go faulty? I've had one for about 3 years and once i got it set up (CCCam 2.1.4, hadu) it's worked flawlessly...until now.the DM500 doesn't seem to recognise the card at all anymore, but if I put the card back in the slybox, it works fine.i haven't changed anything on the DM500 for at least 2 years, so it's not a config thing. I can still get the free channels (inc. BBC Olympics 1-24 HD thankfully!), but none of the Sly movies, sports, etc.Is it time to replace the DM500?Rory.
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Old 07-08-2012, 9:51 AM   #105
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hurrah, my entitlements came back! i'm going to continue with the dreambox for now and i'll try oscam again when everything else is set up.

also a FYI for Tony, since that previous post i've had no further issues with signal loss, this is with a TBS 6984 and 4.5 installed
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has anyone had a DM500 go faulty? I've had one for about 3 years and once i got it set up (CCCam 2.1.4, hadu) it's worked flawlessly...until now.the DM500 doesn't seem to recognise the card at all anymore, but if I put the card back in the slybox, it works fine.i haven't changed anything on the DM500 for at least 2 years, so it's not a config thing. I can still get the free channels (inc. BBC Olympics 1-24 HD thankfully!), but none of the Sly movies, sports, etc.Is it time to replace the DM500?Rory.
Hi,

are you able to check the entitlements in cccam - its been so long now since I just used that! You may want to investigate installing oscam on there too, perhaps Sky have started to move over to the same encryption that they were using for some time, on Pick TV, which cccam couldn't handle.

What do you see when you go to the cccam webpage on your DM?

HTH
Tony

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Old 09-08-2012, 10:00 AM   #107
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Hi Tony,

No, the entitlements wouldn't show either - when I clicked on them in CCCam, I got:

card reader /dev/sci0
no or unknown card inserted

I took the plunge and got a TM500 Super, put a UR image on it which came with CCCam 2.2.1, upgraded it to CCCam 2.3.0, copied the cfg file from the old box and bingo! All working.

The only thing that threw me was that on the DM500, if I powered it off and back on, CCCam would restart. On the TM500, if I do that, I have to reconnect a sat feed to the unit before the softcam will start (I can then disconnect the feed again).

I also had issues with stuttering on all the channels, but I suspect it might be a different smartcard clock frequency - did or do you still have a TM500, and if so, do you know what value you used for that?

Initially, I thought the stuttering might be due to the later version of CCCam, but I tried the same version that was on the DM500 (2.1.4), as well as 2.2.1 and 2.3.0 and they were all the same.

Regards,

Rory.

P.S. What image did you put on your TM500?
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Old 09-08-2012, 11:41 AM   #108
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its not your ccam version, I'm still on the same software that i was helped to install back in 2009 and its working perfectly still
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Old 09-08-2012, 1:16 PM   #109
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Hi Tony,

No, the entitlements wouldn't show either - when I clicked on them in CCCam, I got:

card reader /dev/sci0
no or unknown card inserted
That sounds pretty much fatal, if the card is inserted the right way


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I took the plunge and got a TM500 Super, put a UR image on it which came with CCCam 2.2.1, upgraded it to CCCam 2.3.0, copied the cfg file from the old box and bingo! All working.

The only thing that threw me was that on the DM500, if I powered it off and back on, CCCam would restart. On the TM500, if I do that, I have to reconnect a sat feed to the unit before the softcam will start (I can then disconnect the feed again).

I also had issues with stuttering on all the channels, but I suspect it might be a different smartcard clock frequency - did or do you still have a TM500, and if so, do you know what value you used for that?

Initially, I thought the stuttering might be due to the later version of CCCam, but I tried the same version that was on the DM500 (2.1.4), as well as 2.2.1 and 2.3.0 and they were all the same.

Regards,

Rory.

P.S. What image did you put on your TM500?
Hi Rory,

I don't recall ever needing to remove my sat feed on my TM500 - its connected all the time, and I've only ever power cycled it once or twice - usually due to me doing something on our kitchen pc, which uses this as its dvblink for dreambox feed...

Let me know where you've set your frequency, I don't see it on my tm500 anywhere, and haven't got access to my htpc at the moment...

This is the image I used

HTH
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its not your ccam version, I'm still on the same software that i was helped to install back in 2009 and its working perfectly still
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Old 09-08-2012, 2:22 PM   #110
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That sounds pretty much fatal, if the card is inserted the right way




Hi Rory,

I don't recall ever needing to remove my sat feed on my TM500 - its connected all the time, and I've only ever power cycled it once or twice - usually due to me doing something on our kitchen pc, which uses this as its dvblink for dreambox feed...

Let me know where you've set your frequency, I don't see it on my tm500 anywhere, and haven't got access to my htpc at the moment...

This is the image I used

HTH
Tony
I only have two feeds, both into the Media Centre PC in the sitting room - when the entitlements are close to expiring, I connect one of the feeds to the STB until the entitlements are updated. Simplest solution would be to get another feed to the bedroom and use the TM500 up there (no need for HD there) and at least it will always have a signal then.

The frequency is in /var/etc/CCcam.cfg:

SMARTCARD CLOCK FREQUENCY : /dev/sci0 6800000

I tried commenting it out altogether, but it didn't make a difference. The comments in the sample CFG file say not to use it unless you know what you're doing...so it's possible you never set it. Apparently, the reader should select the optimal speed. Actually, maybe that's what ultimately happened the reader in my now defunct DM500

I'm thinking now that when I commented it out and restarted CCCam, maybe I should have bounced the TM500...I'll try that tonight.

Rory.
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I only have two feeds, both into the Media Centre PC in the sitting room - when the entitlements are close to expiring, I connect one of the feeds to the STB until the entitlements are updated. Simplest solution would be to get another feed to the bedroom and use the TM500 up there (no need for HD there) and at least it will always have a signal then.

The frequency is in /var/etc/CCcam.cfg:

SMARTCARD CLOCK FREQUENCY : /dev/sci0 6800000

I tried commenting it out altogether, but it didn't make a difference. The comments in the sample CFG file say not to use it unless you know what you're doing...so it's possible you never set it. Apparently, the reader should select the optimal speed. Actually, maybe that's what ultimately happened the reader in my now defunct DM500

I'm thinking now that when I commented it out and restarted CCCam, maybe I should have bounced the TM500...I'll try that tonight.

Rory.
Hi Rory,

the only references to frequency in my cccam.cfg are commented out, so I guess that means I don't know what I'm doing... and they say tech isn't smart these days

Yep, I'd give the TM500 a boot, and see what happens.


Tony
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tony, do you have a thread on the dvblink forum regarding your weak signal problems on 4.5? they're back and i'd like to follow it if possible. i'll be going back to 4.1...
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Tony,

Commenting out that line and cycling the power on the TM500 seems to have worked a treat!😊

Rory.
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Tony,

Commenting out that line and cycling the power on the TM500 seems to have worked a treat!😊

Rory.
Excellent news
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Finally at a property that I can get Sky so having a go at reviving a DreamBox/DVBLogic set-up. Had this set-up for cable ages ago but things seem quite different to get it going with Sky.

A couple of things I could do with some help if anybody can point me in the right direction....

Have always used a Pli image and want to get the latest stable Pli Jade 3 as the version on my DB is out of date. Anyone know where I can get it as I can only see nightly builds on openpli.org. Or is there a better image I could be using?

I am having a go at setting up oscam but having some trouble. Can I use it with the internal reader on my DB as most posts seem to refer to the omnikey reader when talking about oscam?

And where do you guys download your oscam binaries from?

Thanks!
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Old 23-08-2012, 12:25 PM   #117
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And where do you guys download your oscam binaries from?
Portal - OScam Board
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Old 24-08-2012, 10:40 AM   #118
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Thanks. I gave the latest version from this thread a go but still had errors so going to push on with getting my DB image updated.

The PLI forums seem to say there is no longer a stable build for an Enigma1 DB (which I beleive my DM600 is) so need to go with a nightly build instead.

Ran out of time yesterday so will try updating it this evening.
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So I gave up with oscam in the end and went with the CCam/newCS appraoch described in Richard Collins' excellent set-up instructions.

All working a treat now. Just got to wait and see if my entitlements update okay in about 3 weeks time.

Would be interested to know if/what benefits oscam would bring to know whether it is worth having another go getting it working.
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So I gave up with oscam in the end and went with the CCam/newCS appraoch described in Richard Collins' excellent set-up instructions.

All working a treat now. Just got to wait and see if my entitlements update okay in about 3 weeks time.

Would be interested to know if/what benefits oscam would bring to know whether it is worth having another go getting it working.
Hi

I believe that the entitlements will fail to update - its been a number of years since our household ran cccam/newcs.

You may also start to have problems decoding channels - one that we know needs oscam, is picktv and its +1 channel. Not sure if there are others, or not.

Tony
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