EPG's WITH "NO SIGNAL"

[wizz_r]

I am into PC's but completely new to MCE...can someone help

I have managed to get MCE 2005 working 90%, but would like it perfect if possible. (OK, don't fall about laughing at that last remark ! )
I am using a Lifeview FlyDVB-T pci card and I am unable to detect multiplex 1 channels ie. BBC1, BBC2, BBC24hr News etc.

I have also tried a Lifeview DVB-T USB2 micro tuner, but this ONLY gives me multiplex 1 channels !! (some without sound).

After re-enabling my pci tvcard I now have the multiplex 1 channels in my EPG (presumably because of the temporary use of USB tuner) but I am getting "no signal" from all of them.

I have also had a brand new digital aerial installed to eliminate that part of the system.

I understand that multiplex 1 channels should be the easiest to receive, not the hardest.

Anyone know of a solution to this problem

Wizz_r

[dejongj]

For a newbie you go in quite a bit of detail

My immediate concern is that I've never heard of Liveview and can't recall it to be an official supported MCE device...

Did it come with any software of its own, and if so can you receive those channels in that software? At least you will be able to eliminate the MCE compatibility....

Sorry I can't be of more help...

[jon stallard]

I don't think anyone on these forums would fall about laughing just because you've asked a question. Clearly you have done well to get this far without help and thus deserve some respect You might like to try a search though in case this has come up before, it sometimes saves waiting for a reply.

I'm at work so can only gloss over what I think might be the problem. When you scan for channels, MCE actually brings in a lot more than the specific transmitter you specify broadcasts for your region (maybe even channels from other transmitters?). What you have to do is go to the channel list (this is where I become vague I'm afraid) and select/deselect channels. In other words, there will be two or more BBC1's several ITV2's and god forbid, thousands of QVC's! The latter, exagaration of course.

This may be your problem but in any case, I suspect that if it isn't you will still need to edit your channel listing to acheive greater than 90%. In fact after almost a year, I do not consider my machine to be 100% so it evolves into a love hate thing. At the moment, I hate it

Jon.

[Reggit]

Looking at this from a non MCE point of view (treating the MCE box as a DVB-T receiver only), do you have any othe devices connected on your aerial?, I'm thinking of video, set top box or anything with an RF modulator.A

Which TV transmitter do you watch?

With your PCI card, can you detect the other MUX's and what is signal like?

[wizz_r]

Originally Posted by dejongj

For a newbie you go in quite a bit of detail

My immediate concern is that I've never heard of Liveview and can't recall it to be an official supported MCE device...

Did it come with any software of its own, and if so can you receive those channels in that software? At least you will be able to eliminate the MCE compatibility....

Sorry I can't be of more help...

I'm told by Liveview Web Support that the FlyDVB-T is fully compatible with MCE. I have also approached them with my problem, but I am still awaiting their reply.

Wizz_r

[wizz_r]

Originally Posted by jon stallard

I don't think anyone on these forums would fall about laughing just because you've asked a question. Clearly you have done well to get this far without help and thus deserve some respect You might like to try a search though in case this has come up before, it sometimes saves waiting for a reply.

I'm at work so can only gloss over what I think might be the problem. When you scan for channels, MCE actually brings in a lot more than the specific transmitter you specify broadcasts for your region (maybe even channels from other transmitters?). What you have to do is go to the channel list (this is where I become vague I'm afraid) and select/deselect channels. In other words, there will be two or more BBC1's several ITV2's and god forbid, thousands of QVC's! The latter, exagaration of course.

This may be your problem but in any case, I suspect that if it isn't you will still need to edit your channel listing to acheive greater than 90%. In fact after almost a year, I do not consider my machine to be 100% so it evolves into a love hate thing. At the moment, I hate it

Jon.

When I try a new scan on the FlyDVB-T pci card, it picks up about 58 channels in total, but not multiplex 1 channels. They are there because I previously scanned with the USB tuner. I have never had any duplication of channels.

How can I edit the channel list and to what degree. Can I put in frequencies etc.

Wizz_r


Wizz_r

[wizz_r]

Originally Posted by Reggit

Looking at this from a non MCE point of view (treating the MCE box as a DVB-T receiver only), do you have any othe devices connected on your aerial?, I'm thinking of video, set top box or anything with an RF modulator.A

Which TV transmitter do you watch?

With your PCI card, can you detect the other MUX's and what is signal like?

I have just had a high gain amplified digital aerial system professionally installed at a cost of £185. The signal to my MCE PC comes straight from a feed on the aerial amplifier and the signal strength is excellent.
I have a full line-up of all other channels on my MCE PC, just the multiplex 1 set are missing.
I am in a good signal area for the Waltham transmitter, which is a "main" transmitter and transmits the full digital channel content.
I have an old Nokia freeview box in another room and all channels are perfect.
So I am baffled as to why I'm not getting multiplex 1 content.

Wizz_r

[mannyo]

Originally Posted by wizz_r

When I try a new scan on the FlyDVB-T pci card, it picks up about 58 channels in total, but not multiplex 1 channels. They are there because I previously scanned with the USB tuner. I have never had any duplication of channels.

How can I edit the channel list and to what degree. Can I put in frequencies etc.

Wizz_r


Wizz_r

You wont have duplicate channels shown in the guide as this will only list one. What you need to do, is go back to the main menu, select settings, TV, Guide and then "edit channels", you will see all the channels picked up by the scan. Some will have a tick next to them, these are the ones in the guide. You could try "select all" then save, then go back to live tv to see what you now have.

[Reggit]

My thoughts are, that one of your set top boxes/VCR has it's RF out tuned to the same, or adjacent channed as mux1 is transmitted on, and distorting the signal at the MCE PC. I would try turning all other devices off at the mains then rescanning for the channels.

[wizz_r]

OK, Thanks I'll try that...but the USB tuner DID pickup multiplex 1 ?

Wizz_r

[Reggit]

Another idea has just occurred to me as well. It is possible you are receiving too high a signal level from that mux on your pci card thus overloading the tuner and it not being able to 'make sense' of the signal.

If the sensitivity of the USB tuner is low, it would not see the lower 'rf wise' mus's and only the higher power BBC one.

It may be worth buying a chear TV signal attenuator, or pluging the aerial flylead directly into the PCI card to bypass the dis amp (assuming this is possible with your setup).

This would explain why one tuner only picks up the BBC mux, and the 2nd can see everything else but that mux.

[sanderton]

I've had issues with two transmitters being in range, and MCE selecting the weaker one which then gives the No Signal error. The higher power signal was lsted on a non satndard number and deselected; I had to deselect the low power one, select the high power one and re-arrange teh channels.

[wizz_r]

Originally Posted by sanderton

I've had issues with two transmitters being in range, and MCE selecting the weaker one which then gives the No Signal error. The higher power signal was lsted on a non satndard number and deselected; I had to deselect the low power one, select the high power one and re-arrange teh channels.

I did a "select all" and checked every channel, with no luck.
Is there somewhere in MCE I can check individual channel strengths ?
I saw an MCE page on the web where that was an option, but it is not available in the same MCE page in my setup ?

Wizz_r

[wizz_r]

Originally Posted by Reggit

Another idea has just occurred to me as well. It is possible you are receiving too high a signal level from that mux on your pci card thus overloading the tuner and it not being able to 'make sense' of the signal.

If the sensitivity of the USB tuner is low, it would not see the lower 'rf wise' mus's and only the higher power BBC one.

It may be worth buying a chear TV signal attenuator, or pluging the aerial flylead directly into the PCI card to bypass the dis amp (assuming this is possible with your setup).

This would explain why one tuner only picks up the BBC mux, and the 2nd can see everything else but that mux.

Can't plug the flylead direct....the amp is in the roof space
Would a variable signal attenuator allow me to turn down the signal power ?
My aerial installer seemed very "up" on my requirements and did say that a signal that was too high was as bad as a low signal...so I would guess that the signal strength is in the correct power range.

Wizz_r