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Splitting HDMI to TVs with mixed abilitys.

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Old 05-09-2009, 9:55 PM   #1
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Question Splitting HDMI to TVs with mixed abilitys.

Whats the best way to split HDMI to two screens with different abilitys?

I'm fed up with manual switching between two screens but they dont support the same things.

TV1: No deep color, no 24Hz.
TV2: Deep color, 24Hz, lip-sync.


I want is to split the signal but not limit it. I tried an octava splitter but it always limited to what TV1 did so no deep color or 24hz on either tv.


I want the signal to just be sent to the displays irregardless of what TV1 can do so I get 24Hz on TV2 and no picture on TV1 with movies instead of no 24Hz on either but a picture on both with stuff like normal tv that doesnt use 24hz or deep color.


I thought a new amp like Pioneers LX52 might do it right but I'm not sure....
Do I need to swap TV1 with something newer?

This is confussing.
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Old 05-09-2009, 11:55 PM   #2
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Re: Splitting HDMI to TVs with mixed abilitys.

Won't happen, the Panels are passive, ie they accept the hand shaking signal, ie from the amp, BR player etc.
It is what you are sending from these devices is what the panels will display..
You can't have both, ie 24 P on, and off..
Deep color on and off.
You will find this is delegated from the Player or amp, not the panel..

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Old 06-09-2009, 12:21 AM   #3
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Re: Splitting HDMI to TVs with mixed abilitys.

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Won't happen, the Panels are passive, ie they accept the hand shaking signal, ie from the amp, BR player etc.
It is what you are sending from these devices is what the panels will display..
You can't have both, ie 24 P on, and off..
Deep color on and off.
You will find this is delegated from the Player or amp, not the panel..

PS3 will only output deep color if it sees the display can do it. No option to force it.

PC changes its resolution every time you turn it on when the screen doesn't support 24p.

Same with a lot of other HDMI devices.
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Old 06-09-2009, 12:26 AM   #4
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Re: Splitting HDMI to TVs with mixed abilitys.

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PS3 will only output deep color if it sees the display can do it. No option to force it.
So outputting on or off, you can't have both..
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PC changes its resolution every time you turn it on when the screen doesn't support 24p.
What does that even mean? Changes resolution?


You are asking for 2 different parameters, it wont happen, you can't have deep on and off at the same time, same as 24 on or off at the same time..
Simple..

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Old 06-09-2009, 4:01 AM   #5
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Re: Splitting HDMI to TVs with mixed abilitys.

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So outputting on or off, you can't have both..

What does that even mean? Changes resolution?

You are asking for 2 different parameters, it wont happen, you can't have deep on and off at the same time, same as 24 on or off at the same time..
Simple..
No I want it on but the PS3 wont let you if you if it sees that a TV can't do it.

So if its plugged into TV1 no deep color. Plugged into TV2 deep color. Plugged into splitter connected to TV 1 & 2 no deep color because TV1 cant do it. Its not the splitter because it works if I only have TV2 connected. What I want is deep color on TV2 & no picture on TV1 with a splitter.


I can force 1080p24 on the PS3 but my PC changes to 50/60hz only no 24 when its connected to TV1 or the splitter I had. Cant force it - doesn't work.

What I want is movies would only show on TV2 in 1080p24 deep color but stuff like normal tv will show on both because both will do 1080i50 from sky. Instead everything sets itself so it shows on both and wont let you use things TV1 cant show.
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Re: Splitting HDMI to TVs with mixed abilitys.

You are not making much sense..

PC needs to be set to 24 P through PC settings, this scan be found in Nvidia Panel or ATi Panel..

I don't even know what you want, I am unsubscribing to this thread.

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Re: Splitting HDMI to TVs with mixed abilitys.

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You are not making much sense..

PC needs to be set to 24 P through PC settings, this scan be found in Nvidia Panel or ATi Panel..

I don't even know what you want, I am unsubscribing to this thread.

If TV1 is connected to the PC or to the splitter 24p disappears from the PC it only lets you use 50 & 60.

TV2 lets you choose 24p. TV2 & splitter lets you choose 24p. TV1 & TV2 on splitter no 24p.

I want to know if theres a splitter that lets you keep it allways. The octava one I got doesnt.
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Re: Splitting HDMI to TVs with mixed abilitys.

Hello all

Unless you employ a 1080p24 to 1080i60 capable VP on the output side of one of the DA Channels you are always going to have to manually toggle between 1080p24 and 1080i60 depending on where you are viewing the source.

The most recent release of the Octava HDDA12-UK 1x2 DA has optional alternate Firmware that will usually enable you to manually override what the Display is asking from the Source and should get around the problem of TV1 forcing the Source to 1080i even if its in standby.

Displays are not passive - its the Display that tells the Source what it can accept and the Source then outputs a compatible signal - where you have multiple capability displays connected to a DA the lowest commonly supported signal is what the Source will revert to.

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Re: Splitting HDMI to TVs with mixed abilitys.

Are there any splitters that you can program yourself like that?

So you can tell it I want ................ and trick it into getting 1080p24 deep color an so on.

What about auto lipsync?
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Re: Splitting HDMI to TVs with mixed abilitys.

I doubt many/any low cost units are easily reprogrammed - we do it on a chip as it would be too costly to add IP/RS232 functionality in this price range.

I'm keen to explore the ability to make our code 'open source' to let folk refine/develop the core code (assuming they have a Chip burner)!

Keep in mind you wont see an image on TV1 when you 'fool' the Source into sending 1080p24 - its just not possible to see an unsupported signal on a display, no matter what you do with the DA!

How different/better does 1080p24 vs. 1080i60 look on your TV2?

Now sure what you mean by Auto lip sync - if you have a device that delays the video signal you also need a device to delay the audio signal; again your in VP territory not DA territory.

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