Radiance XD and Samsung SkyHD "NO 576i"!

[-Hitman-]

Managed to source a new Samsung SkyHD box but unfortunately i cannot get it to output 576i using the Radiance XD.

Already had all the necessary resolutions set in the EDID config as this was pre-set for the Thomson box anyway, which reported 576i as expected but not a chance with the Samsung.

Powered everything off, powered on the XD then the Sky box.

Radiance reports 720P when the sky box is searching for listings after boot up, then selecting a normal SD channel it switches to 576P, Bummer.

Any suggestions??

[Avi]

Originally Posted by -Hitman-

Managed to source a new Samsung SkyHD box but unfortunately i cannot get it to output 576i using the Radiance XD.

Out of interest how does the Bloomberg channel compare to the Thosmon box with 576p output ? I read some feedback that suggested that the ticker motion is very smooth with no judder or combing irrespective of what else is being displayed in the image using when the box deinterlaces and out 576p.


AVI

[-Hitman-]

Originally Posted by Avi

Out of interest how does the Bloomberg channel compare to the Thosmon box with 576p output ? I read some feedback that suggested that the ticker motion is very smooth with no judder or combing irrespective of what else is being displayed in the image using when the box deinterlaces and out 576p.


AVI

The tickers run very smoothly and not seen any sign of combing or break up yet!

[eiren]

Are you using Automatic or the 576 output on the Samsung? What version of software is on it? Mine upgraded itself this week, I thought it might be the new EPG... but alas no.

[-Hitman-]

Originally Posted by eiren

Are you using Automatic or the 576 output on the Samsung? What version of software is on it? Mine upgraded itself this week, I thought it might be the new EPG... but alas no.

Samsung is set to auto but tried 576 anyway which did nothing.

The software version is 973004
Model no.0.7.000
OS version 1.32A0I
EPG. 5.10.j HD

Any differences to yours Eiren?

[eiren]

I'll check it tonight and see if it's the same. I just followed Stoo's advice in the thread on here, and it was reporting PAL when you pressed OK.

I haven't got the HDP anymore, so can't double check it again tonight. Everything seemed as instructed.

One thing that's for certain was that I didn't detect any difference between any of the modes, and Bloomburg was smooth for everything.

[-Hitman-]

Originally Posted by eiren

Bloomburg was smooth for everything.

I concur, no problems with the tickers and it does look like a marked improvement in PQ and sharper picture over the old Thomson box, no combing found yet either on normal viewing.

I'll look out for your report tonight, thanks!

[Ianfromnotts]

Originally Posted by -Hitman-

Managed to source a new Samsung SkyHD box but unfortunately i cannot get it to output 576i using the Radiance XD.

Please no - don't let this be true

[Gordon @ Convergent AV]

In the Lumagen edid set it to only accept 576i and 1080i. Then MENU SAVE SAVE SAVE.

Now disconnect everything from the mains, leave a minute, then plug it all back in and switch on and see if that gets it going.

Gordon

[eiren]

Originally Posted by Ianfromnotts

Please no - don't let this be true

As reported above, and confirmed by Hitman, it doesn't really make much difference, as it seems to be outputting a decent signal either way. I've also ran it through DVDO's PReP and that's identical too in the end result.

I was going to take my Samsung box up to Piers to test this, but looks like Hitman's saved me a journey.

[-Hitman-]

Originally Posted by Gordon @ Convergent AV

In the Lumagen edid set it to only accept 576i and 1080i. Then MENU SAVE SAVE SAVE.

Now disconnect everything from the mains, leave a minute, then plug it all back in and switch on and see if that gets it going.

Gordon

I think i may have already tried those 2 resolutions, trying to get 576i but i'll double check them now, thanks.


Update:

Does exactly the same as reported earlier and still no 576i!

[Gordon @ Convergent AV]

mmmm.....that's annoying. Just to confirm (as you have only mentioned you tried those resolutions before) you did actually pull the mains leads out of everything? Its an important step sometimes to get compete re-negotiation of these damn digital interfaces.

[-Hitman-]

Yes, unplugged the lot.

Only thing i can get the Sky box to accept via an EDID force is the colourspace, this changes as with the EDID settings (eg set 422 444 to off and the sky box outputs RGB) but resolution force a no go.

[VirusKiller]

Any other cables connected to the Samsung?

@Eiren - what cables do you have connected?

[-Hitman-]

Originally Posted by VirusKiller

Any other cables connected to the Samsung?

@Eiren - what cables do you have connected?

Only HDMI and Toshlink, nothing that could interfere with the outputs.