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Old 10-04-2007, 6:38 PM   #1
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Hi, not sure if this is the right place to post this query,as I am new to the Forum,
My Son bought a Beo 1 tv,whilst living in Germany, he now has to move with his work, so wants to send the TV to me in England, he says I am to use it, will I have any problems in receiving a Picture and Sound,as it was sold for the German market? I also have an NTL box on my own set which I would want to use with the Beo 1.as you can see I have no idea about these things, I don't want my Son to pay for Carriage to England if it is not going to work here, I hope that someone can give me some answers, thank you for reading my post.

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Re: Help,B and O Television.

I have no personal experience of the model in question but suspect it would be useable in the UK...as long as PAL-I can be selected in the standard tuning/setup menu...if not a local TV engineer should be able to change it within the service menu...as a last resort because it is a European design it will have a scart socket or two and that would be the preferred option to connecting/using it with your cable box...so yes...it will work.
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Hi, thanks for the reply,I found this page, but it is too technical for me to understand, it does mention something about the range of tuner,not sure if thats what you mean.

www.Beo1center.com

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Old 10-04-2007, 8:00 PM   #4
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http://www.beocentral.com/products/bc1

sorry the web address in the last post was wrong, the one above is the correct one, not sure if it will help for you to give me more info.

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Re: Help,B and O Television.

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[URL]not sure if it will help for you to give me more info.
It doesn't give anything which will help...but as long as your son has the original B&O remote that was supplied with the set it should be able to be used in the UK.
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Yes he has the original remote, it;s just we are getting conflicting advice,the Local B.O say that we will get a picture but no sound due to the Chassis not being compatable to the signals in the uk, they suggested changing the Chassis at considerable expense if I find any technical advice I will post it here and hope you can help further, thanks for advice,I hope all will be well when it arrives.

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Old 11-04-2007, 8:36 AM   #7
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Re: Help,B and O Television.

It should definetly work in the UK, as Germany use the pal signal. I suspect B and O are just trying to get you to send them the set to make some money out of you,lol :D .

Also they would be keen for you not to import and and buy a new television from them.

Also you probably got someone who didn't really know what they were talking about. The bottom line is it can display the pal signal, so there will be a way to get it to work in the UK, if not directly, indirectly at little cost.

Right I just found some specs on their german TV's and they support all format's of pal, so it should definetly work!! And you won't need to change the chassis anyway.

You can connect whatever you want to use, thorugh one of the many socket's.
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Hi Mofoman and JayCee,

i'm the son who has the TV and i would like to thank you both very much for your help. Your advice is the same as that i received from a friend of mine but not the same as that given by the BO techicians in the UK. Thanks for the confirmation. I must say the news is a great relief!
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Great news I see, I sent the link to my son, who has now replied and thanked you all, great stuff and quick replies, Thank you.


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Old 11-04-2007, 9:57 AM   #10
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http://www.beo-troelstra.nl/beocenter1_specs.htm

Hi it's me again, although it seems we are not going to have a problem, this is the page I was trying to send with the info, I have got there in the end.


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Thank You.


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Old 14-04-2007, 9:46 PM   #13
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Re: Help,B and O Television.

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It should definetly work in the UK, as Germany use the pal signal. I suspect B and O are just trying to get you to send them the set to make some money out of you,lol :D .

Also they would be keen for you not to import and and buy a new television from them.

Also you probably got someone who didn't really know what they were talking about. The bottom line is it can display the pal signal, so there will be a way to get it to work in the UK, if not directly, indirectly at little cost.

Right I just found some specs on their german TV's and they support all format's of pal, so it should definetly work!! And you won't need to change the chassis anyway.

You can connect whatever you want to use, thorugh one of the many socket's.
The UK uses PAL-I and Germany uses PAL-B/G which has a different audio carrier offset so you won't get any sound, but as long as the set has can be set to PAL-I it will work OK.
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Oh dear, looks like the technicians at B+O were right then, I will pass the mail to my Son, thanks Simon.


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Old 15-04-2007, 3:05 PM   #15
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Re: Help,B and O Television.

From that link you posted it says:

CTV system according to type:
B/G/D/K/I/L/L4/M, PAL/SECAM, NTSC on AV


What that means is that it will do both PAL-B/G (Germany) and PAL-I (UK) for broadcast signals. In other words, the TV will be fine over here.

Irrespective of that, your NTL box will work perfectly well when connected via scart.

It's a lovely telly...grab it!
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Hi, thanks for the feedback, yes it is a lovely looking TV, and a very clear picture, I did see it when I went to see my Son in Germany, really looking forward to using it now.(what to do with mine is now the problem LOL.


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Hi, it's me again, the Tv is due to arrive from Germany mid June, as you know I have been asking about it being used here in the uk, and so far replies have been positive, now do you think that any good TV engineer will be able to set the set up and get the right reception channels, or should I get a B+O technician, we all know that B+O will charge the earth, but if I have to do this, so be it.

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do you think that any good TV engineer will be able to set the set up and get the right reception channels
Any decent TV engineer should be able to tune it in and set it up for UK use...I wouldn't go to the expense of calling in B & O.
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Ok, I will ring round and see who is willing, I rang two Local tv shops,( high street names) as soon as I mentioned the make, it was "(intake of breath and no we don't do those, they are a bit specialised)" so perhaps it's because I have not bought from them, I will keep persevering, and will let you know how I get on, thanks for the reply.


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Ok, I will ring round and see who is willing, I rang two Local tv shops,( high street names)
Most of the big players in the high st aren't interested in repairs these days.
As a matter of interest where are you based?
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Yes he has the original remote, it;s just we are getting conflicting advice,the Local B.O say that we will get a picture but no sound due to the Chassis not being compatable to the signals in the uk, they suggested changing the Chassis at considerable expense if I find any technical advice I will post it here and hope you can help further, thanks for advice,I hope all will be well when it arrives.

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THe answer is you need a 1/2 Meg shifter as German TV uses a different carrier for sound if your Local B&O dealer cant sort this they need stringing up by there dangly bits its very simple and shouldn't cost much or you just buy a £30 freeview box and conenct that to a scart input. If the TV has the STB kit installed you can control the correct freeview box from the B&O remote
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Any decent TV engineer should be able to tune it in and set it up for UK use...I wouldn't go to the expense of calling in B & O.
Nope they cant it requires a Hardware modifaction and a qualified B&O engineer you can call UK customer support who are based in glousceter get htere nmber from B&O UK Winnersh Triangle, Reading.
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oh dear, it sounds like problems again, Hi Jaycee I am in Leicestershire.

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THe answer is you need a 1/2 Meg shifter as German TV uses a different carrier for sound if your Local B&O dealer cant sort this they need stringing up by there dangly bits its very simple and shouldn't cost much or you just buy a £30 freeview box and conenct that to a scart input. If the TV has the STB kit installed you can control the correct freeview box from the B&O remote
Thanks for that info,it sounds as though I am not really going to know what I need until someone comes to do the setup, and I don't have a B+O store close by.

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Nope they cant it requires a Hardware modifaction
Which is why I said a "decent" engineer...I know what your "modifaction" involves.
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Re: Help,B and O Television.

6Mhz crystal instead of 5.5Mhz maybe?
Easy to make a large job out of a small prob.
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Probably uses a ceramic filter rather than crystal for the sound IF/demod.
Same principle though.

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Hi all, I am still here and looking to see what you all have to say, I suppose I am more worried because I am a senior citizen, and don't want to be taken advantage of,perhaps I am worrying unnecessarily.It is great to see how many of you are trying to help, thanks.


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Re: Help,B and O Television.

btw, if the sound's the main worry, one option is just to use a freeview or cable box with audio out sockets - and plug this straight into a hifi.
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btw, if the sound's the main worry, one option is just to use a freeview or cable box with audio out sockets - and plug this straight into a hifi.
That isn't necessary...anything connected via scart will work...sound and vision.
The sound issue is only of consequence when viewing analogue programmes in the UK with an unconverted TV.
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