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Do you know where the cheapest place is to get this tv? Cheapest I have found so far is £385 in Amazon.

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[c_j_holt]

I got mine from Empire Direct for £385 but they don't list it any more, as far as I know Amazon is the cheapest at the moment

hth

[steggy]

Ordered mine from Amazon a couple of days ago, was the cheapest I could find too.

Not bad considering the nearest competitor is the JVC which only displays 1080i is £600 on empiredirect.

The Sammy displays upto 1080i too
I think a £600 JVC would only be 1366x768 res if your talking about a JVC LCD.

[awol81]

just got a call from Empire Direct telling me the samsung HD slimfit will be instock in 2 weeks.

[c_j_holt]

Originally Posted by bliss007

The Sammy displays upto 1080i too

the Sammy will accept a 1080i signal, that doesn't mean it will display 1080i without scaling

The Sammy has a max screen res of 1920x1080, unlike lot of other screens which are 1366x768 and since its a CRT it is already interlaced so it wont scale the 1080i input.

[warbie]

The Samsung set doesn't look any where near as sharp and detailed as an lcd at 1080i. It's not a patch on the jvc crt either.

[c_j_holt]

Originally Posted by bliss007

The Sammy has a max screen res of 1920x1080, unlike lot of other screens which are 1366x768 and since its a CRT it is already interlaced so it wont scale the 1080i input.

where are you getting your information from? if my Z409 has 1080 lines I'll eat my hat

[warbie]

Originally Posted by c_j_holt

if my Z409 has 1080 lines I'll eat my hat

You're right, it doesn't. Infact the JVC 1080i crt has more lines than the Samsung set.

[steggy]

The Sammy displays upto 1080i too

Yes but the JVC in question doesnt display 720p, that's what I meant when I said it only displays 1080i.

[warbie]

ah - fair enough.

You obv didnt do your homework before buying your 409 then, google for info or read multi threads here.

The initual rumour was the TV scales everything to 1080i but its been proven it can do 1080i and 720p and 480p.

[c_j_holt]

Originally Posted by bliss007

You obv didnt do your homework before buying your 409 then, google for info or read multi threads here.

The initual rumour was the TV scales everything to 1080i but its been proven it can do 1080i and 720p and 480p.

I'm happy with my Z409, I didn't expect it to have 1080 lines. As I said earlier, it can accept a 1080i feed, but it can't show it without scaling

I haven't found any hard facts on resolution using Google or reading this forum, if you have please point me in the right direction. So far this is the closest I have come to hard fact

silly question , or maybe no, does yours buzz at all , in a humming kind of way ?

Does anyone know if this TV can cope with an NTSC signal from a Multi Region DVD player? About 50% of my DVD's are Region 1 and NTSC. All the info I can find on this TV says it isn't NTSC compatible which I find a little hard to believe.

[steggy]

Owing to the specs on Samsung's website for the 419 it accepts an NTSC input

http://www.samsung.com/uk/products/t...Specifications

[finalfight]

Originally Posted by The Woo

Does anyone know if this TV can cope with an NTSC signal from a Multi Region DVD player? About 50% of my DVD's are Region 1 and NTSC. All the info I can find on this TV says it isn't NTSC compatible which I find a little hard to believe.

Yes it definately does accept an NTSC signal.

Cheers. What about the 409 though. No details are on the Samsung site, but all the stores I've looked at show it as being not compatible - has anyone tried an R1 DVD with the 409?

[steggy]

From what I've heard the 409 and 419 are identical except the 419 has a digibox built in. Oh and the 419 is all black, instead of silver and black. So I see no reason why it shouldnt work with R1 discs.

I should get mine between 18th-25th I can test for you when I get it.

[c_j_holt]

Originally Posted by dancewav

silly question , or maybe no, does yours buzz at all , in a humming kind of way ?

only if I stick my head over the back of the TV. All CRTs will buz but some people do seem to have particularly loud Z409/419s

[burnleyboy]

my 409 buzzez but i can only hear it when watching the news at 5.00am when the volume is waaaaay down.....and i love my telly lol

[gixxerman]

Can't hear the buzz on mine unless you lean right over the slots at the back with the sound off.

Interesting link with the specs there; so can we take it that that is it?

Finally we have something absolutely concrete to show definitive proof the '409/'419 have at least 800 seperately scanned lines = true 720p
(and plenty for a CRT to interlace 1080i properly, right?).

I have seen occasional comments from some people claiming they were totally unimpressed with the HD performance of this TV and I have to say the 720p & 1080i stuff I've seen on mine is beautiful, really outstanding.

I can only suppose that those disappointed have been looking at low bit-rate HD stuff.

Resolution is not the be-all and end-all of HD, bit-rate is a major component (and some low bit-rate stuff I've seen barely looks any different to SD, so no surprises for anyone being less than impressed with that).

[bankies]

I have had my 419 for 3 months and it does buzz but you only notice it if the sound is way down. It is a bit louder after switch on but dies down after 15 minutes.

360 HD picture @ 720p is really good

Just spoken to Samsung - surprisingly helpful

The only difference between the 409 and the 419 is exactly as mentioned above - slightly different case and the 409 doesn't have a built in freeview tuner. The other gubbins inside is exactly the same.......ergo, both the 409 & 419 will accept an NTSC video source

Mine will be ordered very shortly - the Mrs doens't know yet - it'll be a nice surprise for her(?!?!)!!

What's the situation with these TV's now, it seems that the more recently manufactured ones have less problems than the earlier ones that had bad geometry etc.

I'm buying a new TV, this TV (probably the 409) is a consideration but I don't want to have to spend days/weeks trying to get the picture right.

The other two TV's I'm considering are the TOSHIBA 32YT56 or JVC AV32T5, if I can get a good Samsung then it's going to be worth the extra £100 or so.

[sebsal]

Bought one two weeks ago. Geo is not bad but the out of focus picture, while not noticible watching tv, is terrible when using the xbox360. When I say terrible, I mean unnacceptably bad. An engineer is coming to look at mine tomorrow.

It's a real shame because the picture is amazing in the middle 80% of the screen with the 360