[DefineByte]

Are these sets glossy or matte? Would really want to avoid glossy.

[skyjuice]

Originally Posted by DefineByte

Are these sets glossy or matte? Would really want to avoid glossy.

personally i wouldnt advise on glossy sets if one has young or infants, in saying that, my current set 46" plasma that have owned for couple of years now, has a glossy frame, and a big piano black pedestal, my youngest is fourteen and well tamed so there are very,very minimal scratches on it.

[Andrew Kettle]

Originally Posted by DefineByte

Are these sets glossy or matte? Would really want to avoid glossy.

If you are talking about the screen from what I have read so far I believe they are glossy however the bezel is matte.

[DefineByte]

Originally Posted by Andrew Kettle

If you are talking about the screen from what I have read so far I believe they are glossy however the bezel is matte.

Yes, I meant the screen itself. Thanks.

[Simple]

Glossy screens give sharper picture and better blacks. Alas, with reflective downside!

[DefineByte]

Which renders the screen useless. I'd rather live with matte.

[rupert81]

There is a review online here if anyone is interested Tv-test: Panasonic TX-L42ET5 - DinSide Bolig

You'll have to use bing but there are some nice pictures

[Andrew Kettle]

They have managed to get a review out without the Tv having even hit the shops or even with a confimed price, yet none of the UK review sites have done one when this set has been on sale in the uk for at least a week and a half!!

[paulmcp2403]

Originally Posted by Andrew Kettle

They have managed to get a review out without the Tv having even hit the shops or even with a confimed price, yet none of the UK review sites have done one when this set has been on sale in the uk for at least a week and a half!!

Pretty poor from Panasonic....remember they supply the TVs to the test labs and reviewers....hmmmm....all very strange

Remember they have taken a bashing recently on many forums for their percieved lack of service in relation to their recent 3d plasmas....

[Andrew Kettle]

On their lack of service, I am yet to recieve my set or a phone call to arrange delivery despite promises I will have it by the end of the week! I will never be buying from them or their franchisee's again, next time I will go the JL or RS route!!

[rupert81]

Keep an eye on this site, FlatpanelsHD - Guide to flat panel TVs & monitors they have one in for testing the review should be up in a day or so.

[maturestudent]

the following review has just gone up on trustedreviews - its not a very good review and i don't mean the TV i mean the actual review itself.

Panasonic TX-L42ET5 Review - TV - Trusted Reviews

[mrobbo]

Originally Posted by maturestudent

the following review has just gone up on trustedreviews - its not a very good review and i don't mean the TV i mean the actual review itself.

Panasonic TX-L42ET5 Review - TV - Trusted Reviews

I really want this to be THE TV for me, and being a gamer, I've had my fingers crossed that the reviews would report back with a low input lag. I'm a little gutted that the above review reports lag of up to 80ms.

I'll await further reviews to get a rounded consensus. Stupid LG panels..

[maturestudent]

i'm no expert but i do understand lag (i think) but i don't get is this 'upto' 80ms lag, how does it vary? is it different inputs i.e PS3 produces more lag than the 360 or is it more like fifa12 produces more lag than gow3 for instance

[Andrew Kettle]

Everyone that has one of these sets says that it is fine for gaming and they cannot detect any Input lag! I reckon as you say this is just a bad revew.

[Razor]

Originally Posted by maturestudent

i'm no expert but i do understand lag (i think) but i don't get is this 'upto' 80ms lag, how does it vary? is it different inputs i.e PS3 produces more lag than the 360 or is it more like fifa12 produces more lag than gow3 for instance

Upto 80ms probably means with all the picture processing turned on. Could be a totally different story with all the processing turned off or in game mode.

As for the bad review comments the review is done by John Archer who is a long standing, well respected professional av reviewer who writes for mags like home cinema choice.

[skyjuice]

Ok say there is as much as 80ms lag, would there be a firmwire update to sort this out, and for one why wasnt this sorted out before panasonic bought into LG's panels, as i even knew bought this problem since last year with LG's panels.? Just wanna know can they fix it ?

[Valentine]

I can assure there is 0 detectable input lag on on my 42"
Tested CoD4, Dark Souls, MX v ATV Alive, Fifa 2011 etc on the Xbox.
Being a PC gamer mainly I would notice lag very quickly and it would drive me mad.

[bonzobanana]

Gaming isn't taken seriously by a lot of the AV reviewers, many of which don't seem to have an interest in gaming. Rarely do you see reviews that rate the picture quality when all the picture processing features have been turned off which is how many gamers will use the tv. It's frankly rubbish to be honest. I've seen tvs with glowing reviews give horrible gaming images with terrible judder on panning shots in games as you turn in fps games or racing games. Unless its obvious they have tested the TV for gaming use you can only judge reviews for non interactive use. The review linked to above seems quite good overall from a non interactive perspective but seriously lacking from a gamer's perspective with not enough solid facts about gaming performance.

[loz]

Originally Posted by skyjuice

Ok say there is as much as 80ms lag, would there be a firmwire update to sort this out, and for one why wasnt this sorted out before panasonic bought into LG's panels, as i even knew bought this problem since last year with LG's panels.? Just wanna know can they fix it ?

I waited over 3 years for a firmware fix to my Panasonic Plasma to support a feature they said was 'coming soom' over 3 years ago...

So don't hold your breath...

[markie1966]

just noticed that the 42" and 47" on currys and john lewis websites at £899 & £1199 respectively so it looks as tho they are rolling them out....bout time too

[Simple]

Does any one know if the web browser on the Panasonic ET5 support Adobe Flash, and which version?
By the way it is € 849,00 in Holland
http://www.plasma-discounter.nl/led-...rt-189789.htm#
I think prices will be competitive as we get nearer to the Olympics.

[skyjuice]

Originally Posted by Valentine

I can assure there is 0 detectable input lag on on my 42"
Tested CoD4, Dark Souls, MX v ATV Alive, Fifa 2011 etc on the Xbox.
Being a PC gamer mainly I would notice lag very quickly and it would drive me mad.

Thats what i needed to hear,thanks fella

[Valentine]

I will download the browser later to check it out.
Will try to video playing COD, gun in hand and controller in front of screen to show "lag"

http://youtu.be/lMT0OvDbgQw

Had the main 160w light on to help filming hence reflections

[mrobbo]

Ok, I feel a bit more appeased regarding gaming on this set. Clearly, I'd need to try before I buy.

For those who already have this set. Are you not worried you have gone 'all in' with purchasing Panny's first 2012 set, without waiting to see what forthcoming sets are like? I'd be worried about buying this set now, only for other Panasonics (or Samsungs, Sonys etc) coming out and be lauded as the best thing ever lol.

[loz]

Originally Posted by Valentine

I will download the browser later to check it out.
Will try to video playing COD, gun in hand and controller in front of screen to show "lag"

Panasonic TX-L42ET5 .mp4 - YouTube

Had the main 160w light on to help filming hence reflections

Excuse my ignorance, but are there 3D versions of these games you can play on a set like this?

[Valentine]

There will always be a better model around the corner and one could wait for ever.

3d games list http://www.3dtested.com/3d-xbox-360-games-list/

I have used the 2d-3d conversion and it works well on games

[bluemike]

Originally Posted by mrobbo

Ok, I feel a bit more appeased regarding gaming on this set. Clearly, I'd need to try before I buy.

For those who already have this set. Are you not worried you have gone 'all in' with purchasing Panny's first 2012 set, without waiting to see what forthcoming sets are like? I'd be worried about buying this set now, only for other Panasonics (or Samsungs, Sonys etc) coming out and be lauded as the best thing ever lol.

I wanted to get a passive 3D set and this is the only range Panasonic will be selling. The others are active.

[mrobbo]

Originally Posted by bluemike

I wanted to get a passive 3D set and this is the only range Panasonic will be selling. The others are active.

That's a very good point!

[Valentine]

No flash in the browser, I get "plug in missing" message.