[Deimos7777]

ok..so i will send u email for buy thoose glasses? But why they aren't on Xpand shop page?

Thx Daniele

[Ideal AV]

Originally Posted by Deimos7777

ok..so i will send u email for buy thoose glasses? But why they aren't on Xpand shop page?

Thx Daniele

Maybe because we`ve ordered them all and they don`t have any

or maybe they haven`t updated their website

[ilise]

Hello guys,
A quick question,
Does the glsses work with Philips IR system?
How come the glasses recognize the brand you want to use them with? Is there a " learning process"?
Further more where is the iphone app which would customize the glasses to everyone's eye characteristics?
Nick

[zkidz]

Originally Posted by ilise

Hello guys,
How come the glasses recognize the brand you want to use them with? Is there a " learning process"?

Different sets send different types of signals, so yes, it takes some time to try to figure out what signal it sees.

Further more where is the iphone app which would customize the glasses to everyone's eye characteristics?
Nick

Not released yet, apparently, so anyone using these is stuck on the default settings in the meantime.

[cmarinelli]

Regarding the iPhone App, I'm not sure how it will talk to the glasses, as the glasses only have IR and USB connectivity, of which the iPhone has neither. Does this mean the glasses will need to be plugged in to a computer first, in which case you might as well use the software that is supposed to be on its way? Or does it mean you need to purchase a Bluetooth add-on for the glasses?

[zkidz]

Originally Posted by cmarinelli

Regarding the iPhone App, I'm not sure how it will talk to the glasses, as the glasses only have IR and USB connectivity, of which the iPhone has neither. Does this mean the glasses will need to be plugged in to a computer first, in which case you might as well use the software that is supposed to be on its way? Or does it mean you need to purchase a Bluetooth add-on for the glasses?

I was wondering that myself. It's possible they do IRDA.

Anyone who has these glasses and knows their way around computers -- do they present a USB configuration descriptor to the attached host?

[cmarinelli]

Looks like they have Bluetooth built in, so the smartphone app should communicate that way. I'm going to see if I can "see" the glass over BT tonight.
Apparently, the software application (not sure if PC or smartphone) is due to be released December / January.

Also, according to the Xpand support forum, someone else has had the problem with the rubber bung on the glasses. Has anyone elese had issues with it? Mine keeps coming off everytime I take the glasses off. Not a huge problem, but something that could be addressed by Xpand.

[cmarinelli]

OK, from what I have found, there is no Bluetooth built in to the glasses, so no idea how they expect a smartphone app to communicate with the glasses. In a way, this is good as the batteries will not be run down by a comms chip that is hardly ever used.

Also, the glasses do not present any information to the PC when plugged in. It is detected as a device, briefly, but I can only see it with a USB sniffer. It does not appear as an unknown device in Device Manager (WinXP).
I guess we just have to wait and see what Xpand deliver.

[zkidz]

Originally Posted by cmarinelli

Also, the glasses do not present any information to the PC when plugged in. It is detected as a device, briefly, but I can only see it with a USB sniffer.

Well, if it presents an ID code and if that's not just the USB sniffer seeing a power negotiation bump on the VBUS line, then that would mean at least that the USB data pins actually go to a gadget circuit. Might be fun to hack on, but I think I'll wait a bit more before buying them -- plenty of other things to hack at the moment.

[robneal81]

I received the glasses and watched two 3D movies with them. Since I bought my 3DTV, I have tried 4 different pairs of glasses and these are by FAR the best. They're definitely the most comfortable. Also, the lenses are taller than all the others, which makes it much easier to see.

They also are less dim than all the others, which makes the movies seem brighter.

All in all, I LOVE them and in my opinion they are the only glasses I'd recommend. If anyone knows of better glasses, please let me know, but I doubt there are any.

[LeeC]

Originally Posted by robneal81

I received the glasses and watched two 3D movies with them. Since I bought my 3DTV, I have tried 4 different pairs of glasses and these are by FAR the best. They're definitely the most comfortable. Also, the lenses are taller than all the others, which makes it much easier to see.

They also are less dim than all the others, which makes the movies seem brighter.

All in all, I LOVE them and in my opinion they are the only glasses I'd recommend. If anyone knows of better glasses, please let me know, but I doubt there are any.

and they're rechargable... a major plus point.

[RICKYJ]

Originally Posted by cmarinelli

OK, from what I have found, there is no Bluetooth built in to the glasses, so no idea how they expect a smartphone app to communicate with the glasses. In a way, this is good as the batteries will not be run down by a comms chip that is hardly ever used.

Bluetooth will be added by an add on module, due in January

[zkidz]

Originally Posted by RICKYJ

Bluetooth will be added by an add on module, due in January

I haven't seen a clear yes or no on this question: Will the RF module, or a future one, also be supporting the ZigBee RF format?

[RICKYJ]

Originally Posted by zkidz

I haven't seen a clear yes or no on this question: Will the RF module, or a future one, also be supporting the ZigBee RF format?

Unlikely, but I will ask the question to XpanD and let you know the answer.

Do you mind me asking why you want it to work with zigbee?

[zkidz]

Originally Posted by RICKYJ

Do you mind me asking why you want it to work with zigbee?

So I don't have to own a separate pair of Bitcauldron glasses to go over to the house of someone who owns an MV3D emitter, mostly. Also, while I personally think tuning the glasses in the glasses themselves is the best approach, there is an argument to be made that having emitters tuned to different sets makes things easier when moving glasses between sets, and the only tunable emitter I'm aware of is the Bitcauldron/MV3d/Optoma/VIP gear.

I suppose I should also ask what the plans are WRT DLPLink.

[MeanDorris]

Originally Posted by LeeC

and they're rechargable... a major plus point.

Actually I disagree on that one.

I was watching a 3D movie with my family a few weeks ago on battery powered JVC glasses, during the movie a couple of pairs ran out of power, took 30secs to change the batteries, would have been somewhat more inconvenient to have to stick them on charge somewhere part way through a movie. Of course you may be more organised and make sure that all your glasses are fully charged before watching a movie, but that just wouldn't happen in my house!

[cmarinelli]

Originally Posted by MeanDorris @ AV Aficionado

Actually I disagree on that one.

I was watching a 3D movie with my family a few weeks ago on battery powered JVC glasses, during the movie a couple of pairs ran out of power, took 30secs to change the batteries, would have been somewhat more inconvenient to have to stick them on charge somewhere part way through a movie. Of course you may be more organised and make sure that all your glasses are fully charged before watching a movie, but that just wouldn't happen in my house!

Good point, but what if you don't have any spare batteries?
Its also worth pointing out that the rechargeable batteries are not replaceable, which will ultimately limit the lifespan of the glasses. It's not stopped me from buying them though :-)

[MeanDorris]

Originally Posted by cmarinelli

Good point, but what if you don't have any spare batteries?

Good point also

However, my batteries lasted me a good 10 months or so, that time frame was enough for even I to manage to get organised enough to make sure I had some replacements - but YMMV

[robneal81]

I ended up watching a few 3D movies over the weekend and I still think these are by far the best 3D glasses I've ever tried. I have a few questions though that hopefully someone can help me with:

- What exactly is the deal with other colors? Will others be available? Are they UK only and not available in the US? My girlfriend has sent me on a mission to find her a pair in red and I think I'd be interested in white as well. The size would have to be large, as the ones I received are large and fit perfect.

- Each time I've used them, I've had to re-sync them with my TV (Panasonic GT25). This isn't a big deal, but the instructions say that one you've sync'd with the TV, they should retain that setting. Is it possible I'm doing something wrong?

- Is there a spec sheet on the glasses? It seems the page on the Xpand website has disappeared. I was hoping to get info on how long it takes to fully charge them and how long a charge lasts...as well as any other info available.

Thanks again for your help!

[Ideal AV]

Hi Rob

we`ve just learnt today that we`ll have the new batch in thursday

these consist of large white & blue/black, limited no`s of white

medium white

small red

i`m glad to hear you think they are the best 3d glasses you`ve ever tried

BTW charge time is 1/2 half for 30 hrs use

[robneal81]

Originally Posted by Ideal AV

Hi Rob

we`ve just learnt today that we`ll have the new batch in thursday

these consist of large white & blue/black, limited no`s of white

medium white

small red

i`m glad to hear you think they are the best 3d glasses you`ve ever tried

BTW charge time is 1/2 half for 30 hrs use

So, you'll have large white, but only small red? Any word on when the red's will be available in large?

Did you say that for 30 minutes of charge time, you get 30 HOURS of use?!?!?!? That's awesome! I'm going to see how long I can go without charging them.

[Ian J]

Originally Posted by robneal81

Any word on when the red's will be available in large?

This type of thing is better done via PM please

[Ustad]

Will these 104s work with Epson ST3010e 3D projector?

[LeeC]

Originally Posted by Ian J

This type of thing is better done via PM please

As this thread is specifically about these glasses, isn't product availability something we all should be allowed to find out about? Saves all the interested people, asking the same question via PM. Isn't it like saying "when's brand X TV available in the 55 inch model"?

Or am I missing the forum rule that forbids that type of information being disclosed? Just curious.

Originally Posted by Ustad

Will these 104s work with Epson ST3010e 3D projector?

That appears to be the same as the 6000W, if so, they work with my 6000W, if that's any help.

[Ustad]

Thanks, LeeC. My only fear is buying something and then having to return it! Just wanted to see if someone could confirm. From what I have read elsewhere, it seems even 103 should work with Epson.

BTW, has anyone tried the generic ones from Amazon? These ones specifically say they'd work with Epson 3010 but there are no user reviews about quality etc. Here is the link:

Universal glasses for Panasonic, Sharp, Sony Vizio, Nvidia® 3D Vision, Samsung LCD 3DTV, Philips 3DTV, HP Envy Laptops, , emitters and glasses Epson 3010, 3010e, 5010, 5010e, 6010, and Optoma HD33, HD3300, HD8300 (with our optional Gen2 emitter) , Samsung®,Mitsubishi®, 3DTV sets (with our optional Gen2 emitter) and CrystalEyes®,I/O®,Elsa®, X3D®,3DTV Corp® glasses, emitters.

http://www.amazon.com/Universal-Pana...3888047&sr=1-5

[robneal81]

Originally Posted by Ustad

Thanks, LeeC. My only fear is buying something and then having to return it! Just wanted to see if someone could confirm. From what I have read elsewhere, it seems even 103 should work with Epson.

BTW, has anyone tried the generic ones from Amazon? These ones specifically say they'd work with Epson 3010 but there are no user reviews about quality etc. Here is the link:

Universal glasses for Panasonic, Sharp, Sony Vizio, Nvidia® 3D Vision, Samsung LCD 3DTV, Philips 3DTV, HP Envy Laptops, , emitters and glasses Epson 3010, 3010e, 5010, 5010e, 6010, and Optoma HD33, HD3300, HD8300 (with our optional Gen2 emitter) , Samsung®,Mitsubishi®, 3DTV sets (with our optional Gen2 emitter) and CrystalEyes®,I/O®,Elsa®, X3D®,3DTV Corp® glasses, emitters.

http://www.amazon.com/Universal-Pana...3888047&sr=1-5

I own two pairs of those. I actually bought two different models from two different Amazon retailers, but they turned out to be identical. When I compared them to the really expensive Panasonic glasses I owned (the ones in the Avatar box set) I thought they were good...especially for the price!

There's no comparison between those and the Xpand's though. The two biggest differences are the height of the lens and the comfort of the nose piece. There's a picture quality difference too, but you wouldn't know it unless you have both pairs...then it's REALLY noticeable.

Said differently: Anytime people come over to watch 3D movies with me, I've given them the generic glasses and no one has ever complained...but I'll ALWAYS wear the Xpand's myself.

[RICKYJ]

We have been asked a few times what the differences in sizes are, and I am now in a position to answer:

Small - Distance between arms is 12cm, lenses are 3.6cm x 4.5cm

Medium - distance between arms is 12.5cm , lenses are lenses are 3.2cm x 4.8cm

Large - distance between arms is 14cm, lenses are 3.5cm x 5.5cm

I hope that helps

[cmarinelli]

Originally Posted by RICKYJ

We have been asked a few times what the differences in sizes are, and I am now in a position to answer:

Small - Distance between arms is 12cm, lenses are 3.6cm x 4.5cm

Medium - distance between arms is 12.5cm , lenses are lenses are 3.2cm x 4.8cm

Large - distance between arms is 14cm, lenses are 3.5cm x 5.5cm

I hope that helps

Not sure if it is the angle of the photo, however the medium lenses look way more than 3mm shorter in height than the large. Is it correct that the smaller glasses also have taller lenses than medium?

[RICKYJ]

Originally Posted by cmarinelli

Not sure if it is the angle of the photo, however the medium lenses look way more than 3mm shorter in height than the large. Is it correct that the smaller glasses also have taller lenses than medium?

Phones dead now, so can't take any more pictures tonight, but can confirm:

The smaller glasses do have taller lenses than the medium. The lenses and style is generally 'rounder' for the small glasses.

Just remeasured, and the difference in height between the large and medium is about 4mm in fact. Must be the angle.

[Curly99]

Originally Posted by LeeC

As this thread is specifically about these glasses, isn't product availability something we all should be allowed to find out about? Saves all the interested people, asking the same question via PM. Isn't it like saying "when's brand X TV available in the 55 inch model"?

Or am I missing the forum rule that forbids that type of information being disclosed? Just curious.



That appears to be the same as the 6000W, if so, they work with my 6000W, if that's any help.

I think it is mainly the extra information that gets posted, if someone asks do you have the white in large the AA replies rightly yes we have the large, they can not then add we also have red black and and limited stock of xxx as no one asked the direct question.yes it's a fine line but AA's can only answer direct question to keep within the forum rules specificly rule 7.

Curly