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Unable to record on Samsung D7000 through USB - fails performance test

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Old 10-02-2012, 9:00 PM   #31
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My problem was that I had no idea what your Windows executable did.
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the file
I take it we only need to change 0x30 to 0x31 in a file (if we have XFS)?

It doesn't matter but your copyright notice is ambiguous.
The GPL (assuming that's what you're referring to) doesn't prevent people from claiming the software is their own by default. It's an additional requirement you would need to specify explicitely. People are required to keep copyright notices by default however (a requirement not specific to the GPL).


I noticed that timeshifting has occasional glitches with my USB device but recording doesn't. Do you know why?
You can timeshift a recording in real time so that's not much of an issue (the only downside is that you need to manually delete the file when you're done).
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Old 11-02-2012, 9:36 AM   #32
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I take it we only need to change 0x30 to 0x31 in a file
Yep, that's all it does. I mentioned it in the windows version as well.
Regarding the GPL stuff, its not really inportant. I just thought I would add a header because everyone else does

Regarding the time shifting gliches...
Well I could just say the usb stick is too slow, because when you time shift its reading and writing from the same file ....... but I have knoticed my drive go a bit mental sometimes, I'm guessing its just the TV kernel catching up with something?

I've tried 2 old laptop Hard Drives (4GB and 12GB), and the performace is as follows:
4GB (Max):
Read 44.7 Mbs
Write 17 Mbs
...Sorry... lost the details for the 12GB Drive, I can not find the bit of paper. I think it was a bit slower that the 4GB one?

I just quickly tested a Sony 2GB USB Flash drive (with a smaller file):
Read 57.4 Mbs
Write 19.6 Mbs

At least I know my USB Caddy & HD are 'just' good enough for timeslipping a UK HD channel (When it arrives in my area) But I'm unsure what bandwidth your channel is using. I use this UK site as a reference for bandwidth.


There is some thing you can try if you have a D series. Goto to this site and install the root access app. It turns the TV into a file server.

I got the results from above by coping a 700MiB file to and from the TV with a stop watch.
I hope that info helps you in some way.
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Old 11-02-2012, 8:31 PM   #33
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Well I could just say the usb stick is too slow, because when you time shift its reading and writing from the same file
I haven't made myself clear.
If I press "record" instead of "pause", it then works just like timeshifting (pause, forewards, backwards) while the recording is in process. It's not like a VCR. The main difference between timeshifting and recording is that one leaves a file behind while the other doesn't. But you're reading and writing at the same time with both methods.
I mention it in part to let people know they can use the recording mode to see if it fixes any glitches they might encounter.

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But I'm unsure what bandwidth your channel is using.
I got gliches on low-rez TV and perfect timeshifting with high-res TV. It doesn't seem to be related to bandwidth but to bugs or to some unecessary operations which don't take place in recording mode.

Thanks again for helping us to work around Samsung's anti-user agenda!
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Old 04-03-2012, 2:36 PM   #34
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Hello, just bumping this because I had the 'performace failed' message and found a crude way around it. Hopefully other people will find it usefull. Run this program on a TV formatted usb drive (Windows only). And it will allow you to pause... but the timeslip appears to work on a percentage of the HD size. E.G. a 2GB drive only allows 7 minutes of pausing. I have only tested it on a 6500 series, and the drive needs to be 1GB+ in size.
Good luck...
This worked a treat after I have had the same problem using PVR. Well in Matt123.

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Old 05-03-2012, 9:10 AM   #35
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......Run this program on a TV formatted usb drive (Windows only). And it will allow you to pause... but the timeslip appears to work on a percentage of the HD size....
I must be missing something here. If I format the drive for the TV, then Windows will not recognise it, so how do I get to run the file on it in Windows?

Cheers,

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Old 20-04-2012, 6:28 PM   #36
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I must be missing something here. If I format the drive for the TV, then Windows will not recognise it, so how do I get to run the file on it in Windows?

Cheers,

Cliff
You are right that the format is not recognised by windows but the program does recognise it, only takes a few seconds.
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Old 21-04-2012, 4:34 PM   #37
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Thanks for the reply. Sadly, it doesn't seem to work for me. I have formatted thre usb drive in the tv (Sammy 40D6530) and popped it back into the pc. The programme tells me to "select the drive to adjust the performance byte", but no drives are shown.

Any ideas?

Cliff
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Old 25-04-2012, 6:31 PM   #38
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I am having a problem with a WD 500gb passport, it has worked fine since xmas however its just stopped being recognized by the tv (d6530). I have unplugged numerous times and left the tv off for 10-15 mins. It will show up usb sticks with photos on etc. It shows up in windows disk management but obviously has no visable partitions.

will matts program sort it out?

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Old 30-05-2012, 4:34 PM   #39
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sorry to bump an old thread,im looking to get a portable HD to use in my TV to record.....can you give me a rough idea of how much memory on the HD is used to record a programme?i know this will depend on HD or SD
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Old 09-07-2012, 8:57 PM   #40
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sorry to bump an old thread,im looking to get a portable HD to use in my TV to record.....can you give me a rough idea of how much memory on the HD is used to record a programme?i know this will depend on HD or SD
thanks
When I recorded the football on BBCHD, a 2hr recording came to around 8GB.
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Old 11-07-2012, 11:40 PM   #41
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Hi guys.

So has anyone successfully recorded/timeshift onto a standard USB stick yet? (without using any other prorammes to change bits and pieces) and if so what read/write speed usb stick performance will be required?
I've found a 64gb usb stick with apparently write speeds of 30mb/s and read speed much higher than this....will this be sufficient do you think??
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Old 07-08-2012, 12:29 AM   #42
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Hi,

I try this in Linux (Ubuntu) and get the error: Does not appear to be XFS drive\partition. I have ES5500 series tv and a Kingston Data Traveler G3
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Old 07-08-2012, 7:40 PM   #43
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Hello, I thought I would pop back here because I made a little adjustment to my program recently (due to a HD failing).
E.G. The first 30-ish meg on my HD has failed, so I used 'Disk Managment" loaded via Run > "compmgmt.msc". And created 2 partitions 1st is 40 MB and the 2nd is the rest of the disk space. Then deleted the 1st small partition. Then format it again in the TV. (get your breath)

The program now checks all 4 of the primary type partitions instead of just the first one(-ish). File Attached.


I'll try to answer some other questions here?


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The programme tells me to "select the drive to adjust the performance byte", but no drives are shown.
Hmmm, you will probably have to run the program "Run As" "Administrator". That should help.

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it has worked fine since xmas however its just stopped being recognized by the tv (d6530).
I had the same problem!, the only way around it I found was to fully format the Drive again. But you might want to consider that the drive if failing too?

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write speeds of 30mb/s....will this be sufficient do you think??
I believe it should be enough for real (from my point of view, because 20mb/s should be enough), but I think the TV will not like it! - thats only a complete guess!

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I try this in Linux (Ubuntu) and get the error: Does not appear to be XFS drive\partition. I have ES5500 series tv and a Kingston Data Traveler G3
Sorry I dont know what type of type system the ES5500 uses?. My only suggestion it to show all hidden/system files, and browse for files with PVR, Chk or Log in the name. (or something similar)
Then look in the file to see if the values could be change to some sort of positive value?

(Just to double check) did you select the correct drive. e.g. try "sda", "sda1", "sdb", "sdb1", "sdb2" etc...
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Old 07-08-2012, 8:59 PM   #44
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yes, I used the correct drive name (in my case sdd1)

And as I can see from the hard disk tool (is it called like that in English?) that the drive is indeed XFS. No hidden files found.

Think I give up and send back the thumb drive for refund (hopefully)
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Old 09-08-2012, 1:54 PM   #45
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.....Hmmm, you will probably have to run the program "Run As" "Administrator". That should help........
Just tried that. Your right, the program works, and now, so does my USB drive.

Many thanks for this, much appreciated.

Cliff
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Old 30-08-2012, 5:13 PM   #46
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Cool answer to record to any hd drive from samsung tv

hi every one my first time on here and here is the anwers to a big question how to record to hdd with samsung smart hub tv.?

simple

i tried every answer and found only 1 the hdd is not the fault. it is the hdd case. i have changed three of these now and success every time.

the hhd case must have an Esata output this confirms to the tv that the hdd can write fast enough to the hdd even via usb. so simply buy a case with this and insert your drive. connect the drive to the tv via USB and run format. will fly through performance tests. and be confirmed.

success

i hope to have the answer for all usb shortly!!!!

all the best.

hope it works for you like it has for me

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Old 31-08-2012, 5:20 PM   #47
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Hi, strange as I have two samsung tv's with one being a smart tv. Both of them have passed the performance test with my usb only connected caddy case...
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Old 02-09-2012, 12:52 PM   #48
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Hi Matt123 ,

Thanks for this great tool. Version 4 works with ES8000.

Regards,

I have formatted Sandisk Cruser Micro
with tv but it failed to pass speed test. I have long time ago downloaded the first version on the first page of this topic. It modified the usb flash disc but it still failed to record.

I have find this this topic again and downloaded the new version. It has successfully modified . Now i can record and timeshift without a problem or a frame drop or a jerky playback (these mentioned defects can be commonly seen on external satellite receivers who can record to usb).

Note 1 : I also have sandisk cruser fit 16 gb version. It is a very tiny model which is almost lost on usb port and also has a very little read-write status led which is not too much brgiht or annoying.

It can pass the test without any need of modification with samsung-usb-adjuster

Note 2 : I couldn't manage to find photo of 16gb version so you can see a photo of 8gb and i do not know it also has same or close performance.

Note 3 : General information , speed of a usb flash disk can be different if you buy different capacities. Normally 32 gb is faster than 16 gb, 16 gb is faster than 8gb .... goes on like this. Also the manufacturers can use different memory chips and usb controller chips on the same model and capacity, so if you buy the same model some time later (such as 5-6 months) you can achieve different speed results , can be better or worse.

So please do not blame me or other people who writes such as " I have XX Brand XXgb capacity flash disk and it can succesfully pass speed test. Your flash disk can have different hardware version with different chips which causes low performance.

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Old 30-10-2012, 5:05 PM   #49
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just registered to thank Matt

i got two hp v210w usb2.0 , 32 gb drives only to find the samsung 32 inch es...5500 would say the drives were too slow (when they are not!)

saw your post and your program just saved me £30...

thank you.. all recording now

HOWEVER is there a way to get/view these recorded shows on a laptop? everytime i put the usb stick in the laptop it wants to format it. any help?

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Old 09-11-2012, 9:15 AM   #50
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Hi guys,

I'm new to this forum but I wanted to chime in on this issue. I have a Samsung D6530 television. I too have been looking at using an usb stick to use the timeshift functionality. I tried several sticks that did not work while small hard drives would work.

Yesterday i received a Patriot Xporter Rage XT 16 gb which supposedly has higher write speeds. I have been able to successfully timeshift using this stick. Be careful not to get the newer Patriot Xporter Boost. The newer version has usb 3.0 and apparrently Samsung tv is not fully compatible with this which makes it slower to write on the t.v. then the Rage.
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Old 06-12-2012, 12:32 PM   #51
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Guys, I have the same issue on my Un55d8000.
I bought this 64Gb Kingston memory stick with 30mb/s writting speed(USB 3.0) and 25MB/sec(USB 2.0), and the tv said that it failed the perfromance test:
USB Drives for personal and business use | Kingston

It can't be possible.

there are some specific steps to do before ?

I can tall you that before trying to record something, the TV did formatted the stick.

help please !!!
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Old 13-12-2012, 9:48 AM   #52
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do you think that is still possible to receive som help from your side?
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Old 30-12-2012, 9:38 AM   #53
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@Matt123
YOU ARE A GENIUS.

I figure out how to do it with the help of your softuare. Everything is fine now.

THANK YOU !
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