[kevin glover]

I have been asked by a mate at work which one of these to go for as I am supposed to be the audiovisual geek?!!.
Anyway, being a Plasma and PJ man myself I am not familiar with either of the above and was hoping you guys who have/do/will own either of these will know all about them. Really just need to know if there are any known issues with either and anything else to consider both technically on either of these and any other makes/models he should be thinking about?.
He intends to buy a blu ray player soon but is not getting Sky HD until they improve content, so much of the normal viewing will be kids stuff for his son and the usual "family orientated" viewing.
Many thanks in advance.

[kevin glover]

Guys, he is itching to spend his money, which one though?!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[jell935]

Originally Posted by kevin glover

Guys, he is itching to spend his money, which one though?!!!!!!!!!!!!!

dont muck about and get FULL HD and be future proof

[kevin glover]

Originally Posted by jell935

dont muck about and get FULL HD and be future proof

Yeah those were my thoughts, just wondered what users thought with the amount of upscaling needed to fill the 1920x1080 panel for full HD and if low bit rate stuff looks much worse than om the older 1024x768 etc?

[kevin glover]

Ok, so not many responses to the original question, is this because neither model is rated by members, not many people have either for other reasons or are Sammy and Sony simply better?!!.
My mate is now being tempted by the 37" Panny Plasma as it can be pricematched in JL for a shade over £600, maybe THAT will get you guys talking!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Zub]

Originally Posted by kevin glover

Ok, so not many responses to the original question, is this because neither model is rated by members, not many people have either for other reasons or are Sammy and Sony simply better?!!.
My mate is now being tempted by the 37" Panny Plasma as it can be pricematched in JL for a shade over £600, maybe THAT will get you guys talking!!!!!!!!!!!!!

well to me it seems a no brainer TBH, full HD, capable of 24p, good reviews, 100Hz (?), etc. especially if he can get it at the price you said its a steal in my opinion!

BTW where is the price matching from???

apparently most Sammys are not very good.

[kevin glover]

The price match on the Panny plasma is based on the price at sound and vision, thanks for your comments.

[Zub]

Originally Posted by kevin glover

The price match on the Panny plasma is based on the price at sound and vision, thanks for your comments.

haha my bad, i thaught you meant the LZ for £600!!!

[kevin glover]

Originally Posted by Zub

haha my bad, i thaught you meant the LZ for £600!!!

Yeah right, now that would be a no brainer!!

[Zub]

Originally Posted by kevin glover

Yeah right, now that would be a no brainer!!

indeed! in that case i would not know which one he should go for, as the LZ is quite a substantial amount higher in price. depends if he feels that he does not need full 1080p or not, also how comfortable is he knowing plasma's usually weigh more and there is also the issue of screen burn, however not so much a problem with newer plasma screens.

[kevin glover]

Originally Posted by Zub

indeed! in that case i would not know which one he should go for, as the LZ is quite a substantial amount higher in price. depends if he feels that he does not need full 1080p or not, also how comfortable is he knowing plasma's usually weigh more and there is also the issue of screen burn, however not so much a problem with newer plasma screens.

Thanks for that, yeah he is well aware of the potential issues with plasma as I have a 42" panny myself and have told him about potential screen burn issues and how to minimize the risks. I think he's tempted as he wants to buy an Onkyo 605 amp and a set of kef eggs so any money saved on the screen is a bonus.

[Zub]

Originally Posted by kevin glover

Thanks for that, yeah he is well aware of the potential issues with plasma as I have a 42" panny myself and have told him about potential screen burn issues and how to minimize the risks. I think he's tempted as he wants to buy an Onkyo 605 amp and a set of kef eggs so any money saved on the screen is a bonus.

the reality is most people have already made up their minds before asking which one to get, which on e is better, etc. its all psychological stuff trying to find a logical reason to actually physically buy it if someone else agrees with you. I'm sure he made up his mind a long time ago

[kevin glover]

Any more comments on this subject?, I think he is leaning towards the Plasma!

[Zub]

well as long as he knows how to take care of a plasma, there should be nothign stoping him!

[Astraeus]

I've looked at both of these new Panasonic units but will hold out on a decision until reviews start to emerge. Some websites selling them have incorrectly stated that the LXD85 has 100hz functionality when it is actually only on the LZD models. I could really use the 100hz technology for HD gaming but also quite like the idea of having a future-proof 1080p. On the other hand, is 1080p needed on a 32" size screen? So many questions...

[ChrisGgr]

Also the LXD85 model has 100Hz its HD READY not 1080P though

[Astraeus]

Originally Posted by Phil Hinton

Fast-action images are also smooth and clear

- 100Hz Motion Picture Pro 2 with Motion Focus Technology

Even fast-moving scenes in sports events and action movies are displayed sharply and clearly. With 50Hz video signal input, Motion Picture Pro creates 100 frames/1 sec from 50 frames/1 sec. This increases the frame count to allow natural frame-to-frame transitions, which results in smooth motion images with high resolution. The VIERA LCD also detects areas with motion and activates backlight blinking for those areas only, greatly enhancing resolution.
*Only LZD800, LZD85 Series

Quoted from Phil's Viera press release about the new ranges. From that, it doesn't appear that the LXD85 will have 100hz technology.

[kevin glover]

Originally Posted by Astraeus

I've looked at both of these new Panasonic units but will hold out on a decision until reviews start to emerge. Some websites selling them have incorrectly stated that the LXD85 has 100hz functionality when it is actually only on the LZD models. I could really use the 100hz technology for HD gaming but also quite like the idea of having a future-proof 1080p. On the other hand, is 1080p needed on a 32" size screen? So many questions...

Thanks for that, I was not aware the info re 100hz on the LXD model was incorrect so cheers for that. To be honest I think the plasma would be better for his needs once he has gone through the hassle of the running in period. Watched the footie in HD last night with a mate who has a 40" Sony Bravia, bloody awful compared to my 42" panny plasma!!

[Gary Best]

The LXD does have 100hz, it's just that's it's not Motion Picture Pro 2. It's Motion Picture Pro.

[kevin glover]

Thanks for all the info guys but he has gone plasma!!. He contacted JL for a pricematch at the weekend and has just told me they accepted it... so £606 for the PX37 plasma which leaves him enough for his Onkyo 606 and kef eggs he has talked his missus into letting him get.
A failure for the LCD followers but a result for mankind!!!!!!

[Ramladu]

I'm really interested in the TX-37LXD85 model.

Looks like a serious Sony D3000 contender, but in 37", which doesn't exists in the D3000 range. Contrast looks very good, great design, and 100hz mode should be awesome if well made, especially on video games.

Howewer, not all 100hz-LCD modes are equal. Sharp's were awesome, Sony's too. I'm still waiting for reviews of this screen.

If it's as great as it looks on paper, this screen is a must-have, because there are no more 37" Hd Ready 100hz LCD, all constructors seems to only includes 100hz on 42" Full HD or more, and those models are very expensive (1200£ or more).

So, waiting for reviews (if anybody has reviews on it, post it here :D) and maybe a price drop (650£ would be great, I see that a lot of LCD have a 100/150£ price drop after 2 months ...).

[YouVandal]

http://www.trustedreviews.com/tvs/re...32in-LCD-TV/p1


close enough

[Bonjour]

I'm interested in the 37LXD85. Does anyone here actually have one that could provide me with some feedback?

I have a 32LMD70 set up in one room, with which I've been very impressed, and was thinking of going with the 37LXD85 to replace my ageing Toshiba set in the living room.

I'm aware that it is only 1366x768, but as the main source is going to be Virgin TV (max. of 1080i, even HD) I thought that a 720p set would be best, leaving less scaling to be done by the TV.

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Thank god he went plasma, he will be a happy bunny

What it is with the 'go 1080p to future proof', and go for '24fps, 100hz, 1080p, and it gets good reviews' comments. I might as well say go for a projector to future rpoof, or buy some 3D glasses to futureproof for HD sets, or get a table ready to support hologrpahic projectors

1080p footage will start filtering out in greater numbers, but using my eyes I have seen many many HD-ready plasmas that **** all over many Full HD LCD tvs with many useless technologies on board.

More pixels and a better spec list does not = better picture quality.

panaosinc PX80 is the best value plasma out there, just stonking value. Just think you could have 4-5 of the 42 inch sets for one of the new Kuros. I should cancel my order then get a Panny for the living room, bedromms 1+2, kitchen, and bathroom

[Boostrail]

Originally Posted by -Ad-

Thank god he went plasma, he will be a happy bunny

Provided he is happy with a dim blurred picture

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Originally Posted by Boostrail

Provided he is happy with a dim blurred picture

Try turning your LCD off dynamic and turn the noise processing rubbish off, and you will get a more natural picture.

Bright, eye piercing vibrant picture, with overstaurated colours does not mean a good and accurate picture.

[Boostrail]

Originally Posted by -Ad-

Try turning your LCD off dynamic and turn the noise processing rubbish off, and you will get a more natural picture.

Bright, eye piercing vibrant picture, with overstaurated colours does not mean a good and accurate picture.

I do not get a bright eye piercng picture with oversaturated colours - I get a natural well defined (even on SD) picture with natural colours not a dim wish wash that you get on all but the most expensive plasmas. I would agree with you that certain LCD's do give pictures as you describe - notably Samsungs but not Panasonics.