[Akah]

Hey guys,

After not getting much luck with my previous thread I have taken a MOD's advice and decided to break things down in to smaller chunks in each section relating to the product I am after,

What I want in a TV: I would like my TV to support full HD and give me enough ports to hook up everything else that I have listed. Be wall mountable and not overly chunky in thickness. I have had my Samsung LN-R238W for years and it is still in perfect condition so something from the newer ranges of Samsungs TVs would be my preferred choice (I like the look of the Samsung UE32B6000), although I am open to any and all brands. I don't want the TV to be any bigger then 32" and I don't want to spend any more then £1000 on it.

I am also looking for a Blu-ray Player and Amp + Speakers in the linked threads.

Other Parts: I have also put aside an additional £75 for any cables or leads that I might need when setting up everything. Including this that should bring my entire new system in at £1800.

Basically the idea is to end up with something like this:

Sorry about the poor quality of my art skills lol! but I'm sure you guys get the idea. I already have the stands and stuff to do the wall mounting so thats not an issue.

So I guess thats everything, I will leave you guys to do what you do best lol and help me spend my money!

[Big_Dan_C]

a grand is a lot on a 32" LCD TV - you could struggle to find one for that much!

Why are you limiting yourself to this size?

[Akah]

Originally Posted by Big_Dan_C

a grand is a lot on a 32" LCD TV - you could struggle to find one for that much!

Why are you limiting yourself to this size?

The wall where the TV is to be situated is only 70 Inches across and the sitting area is only 60 inches away from where the TV is going to be mounted so anything bigger then 32" will just look overly large and I would expect sitting so close to give poor quality viewing on a larger screen, please correct me if my assumptions are wrong though,

You don't have to spend all of the £1000 though, I just set the price at my maximum so people know what I have to work with, Unless I am misreading your reply and your meaning that finding a 32" TV for under £1000 is going to be hard work.

[Big_Dan_C]

Yes - It would be hard to find a 32" tv that expensive.

THX reccomend a 1080p display minimum viewing range of 84% of the viewing distance. this would give you a max TV size of 50". However, I think this will be too big and would feel like sitting at the front row of the cinema. therefore I would not go above 42" and would certainly consider a 37".


you need to decide if you want LCD or Plasma. generally at the smaller end of the market its all LCD's but i know LG make a 32" plasma (as my brother-in-law has one).

LCD do suffer from the dreaded backlight bleed - although this is less of an issue on the smaller displays it is still a concern and has the potential to affect every aspect of your viewing. since you're already an LCD owner you probably might have noticed this.

Plasmas do not suffer this but some people can see 'phosfor trails' which are little green and yellow steaks. they are visible on every plasma display if you're susectable so you need to go into any shop and have a look.

Sony and sumsung are pretty much head to head on their sets - if anything the the sony deals with de-interlacing and colour accuracy slghtly better and the samsung suffers from input lag. usually the SD performance is better on the samsunsgs but the new 5500 series sonys are equally good as thier samsung counterparts. pioneer dabled in LCD and you can pick up their sets - they are good but don't look too nice as a piece of furniture and they have reports of banding on a certain grey colour.

on plasma - since pioneer gave up, panasonic have taken the mantel have best tv. their new V series are fantastic - so good in fact that I have one! the new G series is equally good and you'd certainly get a 42"er for under a thousand. the LG's are good and I have not heard any bad things about them.


I hope this helps - if you think about whether you want LCD or plasma we'll discuss in more detail - since you improving your home cinema as a whole I would edge towards plasma.

Dan

[Akah]

Originally Posted by Big_Dan_C

Yes - It would be hard to find a 32" tv that expensive.

THX reccomend a 1080p display minimum viewing range of 84% of the viewing distance. this would give you a max TV size of 50". However, I think this will be too big and would feel like sitting at the front row of the cinema. therefore I would not go above 42" and would certainly consider a 37".


you need to decide if you want LCD or Plasma. generally at the smaller end of the market its all LCD's but i know LG make a 32" plasma (as my brother-in-law has one).

LCD do suffer from the dreaded backlight bleed - although this is less of an issue on the smaller displays it is still a concern and has the potential to affect every aspect of your viewing. since you're already an LCD owner you probably might have noticed this.

Plasmas do not suffer this but some people can see 'phosfor trails' which are little green and yellow steaks. they are visible on every plasma display if you're susectable so you need to go into any shop and have a look.

Sony and sumsung are pretty much head to head on their sets - if anything the the sony deals with de-interlacing and colour accuracy slghtly better and the samsung suffers from input lag. usually the SD performance is better on the samsunsgs but the new 5500 series sonys are equally good as thier samsung counterparts. pioneer dabled in LCD and you can pick up their sets - they are good but don't look too nice as a piece of furniture and they have reports of banding on a certain grey colour.

on plasma - since pioneer gave up, panasonic have taken the mantel have best tv. their new V series are fantastic - so good in fact that I have one! the new G series is equally good and you'd certainly get a 42"er for under a thousand. the LG's are good and I have not heard any bad things about them.


I hope this helps - if you think about whether you want LCD or plasma we'll discuss in more detail - since you improving your home cinema as a whole I would edge towards plasma.

Dan

I actually Have an LG 42PQ3000 in my main living room, what I am looking to do is use our spare 3rd bedroom as my own "retreat" from the Mrs lol! So that was also part of my reason for going with the smaller TV as the room is tiny to begin with,

What is the difference between LED and LCD btw as I'm a little confused by this??

And what do you think of the Samsung UE32B6000? I saw one at Comet on the weekend and was just blown away by it! How do they make them so thin!?!

[Big_Dan_C]

LED vs LCD

its only the backlight that varies - samsung ahve started caling their LED backlit TV's 'LED'

what it means is instead of the screen brightness being controlled by what is essentially florescent tubes (albeit very small) they are controlled by individual LED lights. this means that the LED lights can go darker locally since one LED can be turned off - vs a whole tube on the normal CCFL backlit tvs.

so what does it mean? the new sammy led tvs have a brilliant black level 0.01cd/m2 in fact - very very dark.

try not to be swayyed with the shop display - they crank the backlight and brightness right up to make the tv stand out. having said that i have seen thwe 50 inch version of this tv and the hd picture was stunning.

i don't think you'll be disapointed but the larger screens of this model have been showing signs of backlight bleed.

check out good review here

happy hunting - if its just you're room and you're only going to be viewing HD i'd get a 42" panasonic plasma and be emmersed in blue-ray glory.

[Akah]

Is £729.99 inc vat a good price for a Samsung UE32B6000??

[KUBBY]

Hi,

Yes that's an OK price,I take it thats the Novatech offer?

Big_Dan has some relevant points that you seem to have ignored.Perhaps your mind is set on a 32" and perhaps you think that anything bigger will dominate the room.

Take it from us,within 3 months you'll be wanting the larger screen!
(Try sticking a 37" diagonal card on your wall.Then try a 32"!)

The 37" B6000 is available from the same dealer for £150 more,still within your proposed budget.It would be the more satisfying buy.

I am an unashamed Fan of Samsung and of LED LCD's (Not quite so much these new fangled "Edge light" sets but there you are) I wouldn't however,discount Sony for LCD or Panasonic for Plasma and while not wishing to confuse you I would suggest that you investigate them as well.

Try HDTVORG.co.uk and HDTVTEST.co.uk for some very good comparisons

Good luck,

K.

[Akah]

Originally Posted by KUBBY

Hi,

Yes that's an OK price,I take it thats the Novatech offer?

Big_Dan has some relevant points that you seem to have ignored.Perhaps your mind is set on a 32" and perhaps you think that anything bigger will dominate the room.

Take it from us,within 3 months you'll be wanting the larger screen!
(Try sticking a 37" diagonal card on your wall.Then try a 32"!)

The 37" B6000 is available from the same dealer for £150 more,still within your proposed budget.It would be the more satisfying buy.

I am an unashamed Fan of Samsung and of LED LCD's (Not quite so much these new fangled "Edge light" sets but there you are) I wouldn't however,discount Sony for LCD or Panasonic for Plasma and while not wishing to confuse you I would suggest that you investigate them as well.

Try HDTVORG.co.uk and HDTVTEST.co.uk for some very good comparisons

Good luck,

K.

Yes it is the Novatech offer which seems to be the best around.

At present I have a 26" Samsung TV which I got several years back and I feel it is fairly large for the room size so I was thinking that anything larger then a 32" would just be over the top for such a small room, I have made a mock up out of black card that is the exact size of the Samsung 37" UE37B6000 and it does feel large when pinned against the wall - I will upload a photo later so you guys can get a feel of the room size in comparison to how big the 37" TV would be. So I wasn't ignoring Big_Dans advice about the 42" Plasma TV I just feel that It would be far to big but the review link he gave was very helpful.

/Akah

[steveo 79]

you could always look at the 32" 7020 which has the extra internet connection and widgets, apparently the same price as the 37" 6000 Samsung LED TV UE32B7020

I personally like the samsungs quite a lot but wouldnt rule out the Sony's

[Akah]

Originally Posted by steveo 79

you could always look at the 32" 7020 which has the extra internet connection and widgets, apparently the same price as the 37" 6000 Samsung LED TV UE32B7020

I personally like the samsungs quite a lot but wouldnt rule out the Sony's

I will have a PS3 hooked up to the TV and a PC and iMac on the Desk at the other end of the room so don't think I would have any need for internet access built in to the TV.

I have placed a piece of card the exact size of the Samsung UE37B6000 on the wall where I want my new TV to go and although it does look very big (maybe this is because I'm use to my 26") I think the room might just be big enough to pull it off without it looking to silly, I will be left with around 1ft from the top of the TV to the roof and 1ft from either side of the TV to the surrounding walls.

Do you guys think It would be best to paint the wall behind the TV a different colour to the rest of the room? And which colours tend to look best as a back drop for a TV?

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The photo was taken from the sitting area of the room which is against the adjacent wall so it can't be moved. This is how much of the wall a 37" will take up, the surrounding walls and roof are just out of frame but the TV will take up about 1/3rd of the wall possibly more, will this give a good enough picture at such a close viewing range or would I be best going with the 32" for this size room?

[Big_Dan_C]

get the 37"! the room is big enough - I've been playing XBOX on my projector over the weekend - 80" screen size at viewing distance of around 7 - 8 foot and it was mint! never fetl too big, don't get me wrong it felt big - but felt good!



forgot about the paint - if you're planning to do a lot of viewing in the dark - as you should in your little home cinema haven then the colour of the piant shouldn't matter too much. our walls here are a creamy light chocolate colour (picked by the misses) and I've never felt the colour has affected my viewing. don't forget that at your viewing distance you wont notice the colour of the walls!

[KUBBY]

I agree,get the TV first then worry about the paint.

If you find that the colour is too "Reflective" then paint the walls in a slightly darker shade.That coffee colour seems to be a favourite.

I don't think that you'll notice though.

K.