LOTR C4HD Sat 14th

skywalker1010 · 07-09-2008, 10:06 PM

Quick heads up, Lord of The Rings is on the planner for Sat 14th. If there was one film which would show C4 could whup BBCHD's @ss then this is it.

Planner does not flag it as HD yet...... come on boys

in the words of the great Homer, please,please,please,please.

Volcano with Tommy Lee Jones looked blummin brilliant at the weekend on C4HD...... but The Abyss looked pants!

Let's have the HD version of LOTR........ you know you can do it!

kevrush · 07-09-2008, 10:16 PM

Thanks for the heads up, would love to see this in HD, lets hope!

jamesking · 07-09-2008, 10:23 PM

Xhat time? I can't find it on mine!

choddo2006 · 07-09-2008, 11:02 PM

7.30

Digiguide not listing it as HD either

ISEEDUMBPEOPLE · 07-09-2008, 11:15 PM

A series link is available for it.

jamesking · 07-09-2008, 11:35 PM

Whoops, I was looking at Sunday 14th, rather than Saturday 13th! The thread title is wrong!

prakb · 08-09-2008, 5:03 AM

I guess the series link means it's the whole trilogy being shown!

SyStemDeMoN · 08-09-2008, 8:12 AM

ive seen these in 720p while staying with my bro in the states, and they looks brilliant. only star wars 3 PQ has beaten these for me.

Tarbat · 08-09-2008, 8:22 AM

But isn't this only being broadcast on C4HD in SD?

Angel1403 · 08-09-2008, 12:10 PM

They were shown a while back on Sky HD I cant remember if it was Sky 1 or movie channel.

They look amazing!

Lets hope C4 do them justice.

Cheers

skywalker1010 · 08-09-2008, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Tarbat

But isn't this only being broadcast on C4HD in SD?

Hi Tarbat,
Yes, that was my point, not yet flagged in HD, but here's hoping

I have seen listings before with HD flag to then change as HD later. In fact, I am sure SKY broadcast Return of The King in HD a couple of years ago now. I remember recording this to my box, but I have had HD now for nigh on 3 years and onto my second box, so that and all my Star Wars went for a burton

I am sending C4HD an email now..... let's see what their response is.

Kev12 · 08-09-2008, 2:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Angel1403

They were shown a while back on Sky HD I cant remember if it was Sky 1 or movie channel.

They look amazing!

Lets hope C4 do them justice.

Cheers

Must have missed this.

skywalker1010 · 08-09-2008, 3:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Kev12

Must have missed this.

Kev,

Nearly two years to the day

When it LOTR : Return of the King in HD again?

*rovex33* · 08-09-2008, 5:58 PM

I saw the earlier Sky Movies HD broadcast, i thought it was avergage PQ at best. Looked more like an upscale to me.

**johnscarlet** · 09-09-2008, 1:16 PM

mooved

Ethan2000 · 09-09-2008, 2:18 PM

If you want to check if something is flagged wrong on an HD chanel, put it down to record then check how much space it uses on your hard drive, In this case LOTR will take up 12% of mine, so it is in HD.

Should be good, shame about the adverts though.

badkarma · 09-09-2008, 4:11 PM

It's flagged as HD on the Sky tv guide on the sky web site.

Happy days

Jaycee Dove · 09-09-2008, 4:31 PM

I always thought that even SD upscaled on an HD channel would use up high hdd space because of the transmission bitrates being the same as if the programme were in HD.

In fact in my experience it always has.

Law and Order on Sky 1 HD took up as much space when it was upscaled SD as it did when they used HD masters to trasmit later.

Have I got that wrong?

Indeed, is this not why we have both versions when a channel is simulcast as it lets us record SD programmes off the SD version if we prefer to use less hdd space as opposed to loads if we had to record even non HD programming off the HD version.

skywalker1010 · 09-09-2008, 4:37 PM

I emailed C4HD at the start of the week, waiting to hear back, but it is looking promising, unless the SKY TV guide is wrong, good old SKY...bless

BOC|Ethan2000
I did the record to disk bit on Sun when I saw it on the planner, yep it is 12% which is good, but it is also 3 hours long

As soon as C4HD get back to me I will post it up.

wednesday83 · 09-09-2008, 6:26 PM

But the bandwith on the sky movie channels seem quite low anyway. maybe C4 is higher. most films on Sky Movies in HD are looking quite naff.

Starburst · 09-09-2008, 6:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Jaycee Dove

I always thought that even SD upscaled on an HD channel would use up high hdd space because of the transmission bitrates being the same as if the programme were in HD.

In fact in my experience it always has.

Law and Order on Sky 1 HD took up as much space when it was upscaled SD as it did when they used HD masters to trasmit later.

Have I got that wrong?

Indeed, is this not why we have both versions when a channel is simulcast as it lets us record SD programmes off the SD version if we prefer to use less hdd space as opposed to loads if we had to record even non HD programming off the HD version.

No you are quite right, upscaled HD is treated no differently in terms of bitrate as native HD and since they are both the same resolution then disk usage is comparable.

The big change is the more efficient H.264 encoders now being used are working wonders with HD and the disk usage is far closer to that of SD encoded using mpeg2 although it's still at least double the size of the best SD.

dansmith · 10-09-2008, 9:00 AM

my understanding is that there isnt a hd version of lotr as there is no blu-ray of it yet and i thought peter jackson was lovingly crafting a hd version.

badkarma · 10-09-2008, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by dansmith

my understanding is that there isnt a hd version of lotr as there is no blu-ray of it yet and i thought peter jackson was lovingly crafting a hd version.

It's been on Sky HD before many months ago, there doesn't need to be a blu-ray available for a broadcast to be HD, only the print of the film which can be re-mastered into HD.

dansmith · 10-09-2008, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by badkarma

It's been on Sky HD before many months ago, there doesn't need to be a blu-ray available for a broadcast to be HD, only the print of the film which can be re-mastered into HD.

hmm i read on another forum that jackson was lovelingly crafting a hd version for blu-ray relase so i would imagine that whatever sky are showing wont be that.

eiren · 10-09-2008, 12:20 PM

He's probably lovingly crafting the pointless Blu-ray LIVE interactive features, that 90% of people won't be interested in.

Lord Of The Rings was shot on film that is already high definition, so doesn't need remastering.

Even if it's upscaled SD, it's still going to look much, much better than your DVDs... as Channel 4 HD seem to have a very good upscaling unit. Sometimes I need to double check something to see if it's native HD or SD, as it looks great on SD stuff.

badkarma · 10-09-2008, 1:50 PM

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Originally Posted by dansmith

hmm i read on another forum that jackson was lovelingly crafting a hd version for blu-ray relase so i would imagine that whatever sky are showing wont be that.

True but it doesn't mean it's not HD or good HD for that matter.

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Originally Posted by eiren

Even if it's upscaled SD, it's still going to look much, much better than your DVDs... as Channel 4 HD seem to have a very good upscaling unit. Sometimes I need to double check something to see if it's native HD or SD, as it looks great on SD stuff.

Yes, C4HD SD upscaling is the best IMO very noticeable improvement over the main channel.

Starburst · 10-09-2008, 3:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dansmith

my understanding is that there isnt a hd version of lotr as there is no blu-ray of it yet and i thought peter jackson was lovingly crafting a hd version.

All three movies have been broadcast in HD in other countries, I have them on a hard drive somewhere if I can find it and as mentioned the third has certainly been on SKY HD

tmurphy · 11-09-2008, 11:00 AM

Its Saturday 13th, not 14th!!!

tony

tmurphy · 11-09-2008, 11:10 AM

looking again at various listings

Sky Guide - says SD
Digiguide - says SD
Sky Online Guide says HD

However....EVERY entry on the Sky Online Guide for CH4HD is flagged as a HD broadcast when we know 99% of the transmission is in SD, so I'm guessing that it will only be broadcast in SD

But I will still be recording it "just in case".

They do look good in HD as I have them on DVD in the AVCHD 1080p format

tony

wednesday83 · 11-09-2008, 11:59 AM

A lot of upscaled programmes on CH4 hd that are upscaled look great usually anyway. I saw a glimpse of Without a trace the other day and the PQ was awsome. It said it was SD but the quality was far better than most HD american Broadcasts on SKY1 HD.