New UK Film Certificate

[Desticado]

Sorry if this is old news to some but there was an interview on the news this morning with a representative of the BBFC (ah-peuh) announcing the use of a new film certificate for the UK Cinema (not video/dvd).

The new certificate is 12A or 12-Advisory and shall replace the current certificate 12. It will mean that children under the age of 12 shall be permitted into movies rated 12A (and presumably those previously rated 12 also) provided they are accompanied by a parent or responsible adult who feels they child is suitably mature to watch the movie.

He also cleary stated there are NO PLANS WHATSOEVER to re-examine the current certificte 15 or 18 ratings.

Regards

[PoochJD]

HI,

I heard this also, and I'm not happy!!

What this now means, is another category of films that will get interrupted by bloody annoying kids who are more interested in nattering and eating, than in watching the movie!

Can't the BBFC create a new category, called "M-NKA", for Mandatory, No Kids Allowed?! Now, that I would be grateful for!

Pooch

[Drunken Master]

What about.

NTOMP - No ******s on Mobile Phones

I went and saw some of all fears the other day and this stupid cow couldn't stop texting her phones was going of every few minutes. Some bloke sitting a few seats away eventually used some very rude words and she still didn't stop

[stealther]

People like that should just be taken out into the street and shot
I only go to the cinema late at night so as to avoid noisy brats still it doesn’t stop people using their mobiles.
Still its not as bad as in the states whilst i was there recently i watched one or two decent movies that were ruined by stupid yank women shouting things out at the screen.
This happened on three separate occasions so i suppose its part of the film culture over there.
If it starts happening over here iam going to become a vigilante and start random executions.

They might not censor headbutts now. Seems a gradual move to the US and Australian ratings systems....

[Desticado]

I can beat that...

Last time I was in a cinema in the states... 20 minutes into the film, the guy behind me takes out his mobile phone and makes call!!!

its one thing to answer a phone in a cinema, its althogether another thing to make a call.

Originally posted by PoochJD
HI,

I heard this also, and I'm not happy!!

What this now means, is another category of films that will get interrupted by bloody annoying kids who are more interested in nattering and eating, than in watching the movie!

Can't the BBFC create a new category, called "M-NKA", for Mandatory, No Kids Allowed?! Now, that I would be grateful for!

Pooch

Pooch can't help noticing that you're very angry of late... do you want to talk about it? Seriously though going to the cinema later might be an idea. I too have noticed audiences getting a bit more vocal over here... watching AOTC ****ed me off cos everyone was cheering. I knew the Yanks went bananas at the flicks tho.

Which would you lot prefer?

Fewer kids in the cinema

OR

Fewer censored films and R2 DVDs?

I know which I prefer and the 12A rating should mean just that! You can't have it both ways!

Originally posted by James45
I knew the Yanks went bananas at the flicks tho.

There are still some, small town, cinemas in the States where they play a short reel of a fluttering Stars & Stripes with the National Anthem playing. The audience actually stands up whilst this plays... seriously!

[Steve T]

A friend of mine was travelling in the US on his own a few years back.

He (a big film fan) found himself in a bit of a flea-pit Cinema in Washington watching "True Romance" the week it was released. The audience consisted mostly of African Americans.

This was not a problem until Dennis Hopper started doing his famous "Sicilians were spawned by n*ggers" monologue when he resigns himself to the fact that Christopher Walken is just about to shoot him.

After the "N" word had been used for the umpteenth time a number of men in the audience started shouting words to the effect of

"THIS SH*T AINT FUNNY ANYMORE!"

Being in one of the murder capitals of the US, my mate found it difficult to concentrate on the rest of the film for fear of someone popping a proverbial cap in his ass!

Originally posted by Desticado
provided they are accompanied by a parent or responsible adult who feels they child is suitably mature to watch the movie.

Anybody thought of the implications of paedephiles or other "dodgy" characters hanging around Cinema's offering to escort under 12's in to see films!! This happened in the 60's and 70's with the old "A" classification.

Although I agree with what Squirrel God says about prefereing less censorship this is not the way to do it!!

How on earth are you supposed to "police" what your kids see if any "responsible adult" can escort them in.

Apparently the BBFC conducted an extensive survey about this, allegedly 2000 people in Norwich (hardly extensive) and this is the result.

Close down the BBFC once and for all.

Steve

[Desticado]

Im sorry, but I just have to haul you up for this drivel...

Originally posted by Couch Potato
Anybody thought of the implications of paedephiles or other "dodgy" characters hanging around Cinema's offering to escort under 12's in to see films!! This happened in the 60's and 70's with the old "A" classification.

I doubt any responsible parent would be letting their children go unaccompanied to cinema's and those that do would give the "dont go with any men to look at puppies" speech.

Although I agree with what Squirrel God says about prefereing less censorship this is not the way to do it!!

At least with this method there is the implementation of choice in what you permit your children to see. Would you prefer a method of censorship where you had no choice, instead having to accept what had been deemed by others suitable or not for you and your children to watch?

How on earth are you supposed to "police" what your kids see if any "responsible adult" can escort them in.

because any responsible parent doesnt let their children wander off with a random stranger. Whilst it is impossible to know EXACTLY what is going to be contained within a movie it is easy to have a good idea and therefore judge whether or not you want YOUR child to see it, either with your or a responsible adult into whom you have trusted your child.

Apparently the BBFC conducted an extensive survey about this, allegedly 2000 people in Norwich (hardly extensive) and this is the result.

Actually it was 4000 people surveyed and a pilot scheme was held in Norwich. 4000 people is actually a VERY LARGE SAMPLE SIZE if you know anything about statistics.

In addendum.... There was an interview on radio 2 this morning between a representative of the BBFC and the chairman of some watchers group or whatever. He made a similar arguemt to yourself and added that it was now possible for 8 year olds to go watch scenes of drug taking, dismemberment and sexual intercourse... The man from the BBFC did a great job of puting him back in his box instantly by pointing out that neither drug taking or Sex (of any nature) is permited to be shown in any 12/12A movie. Sex may only be implied such as two people holding hands and heading upstairs for instance.

Regards

OK I may have been gone a bit overboard with the comments, made after looking at the thread for about 10 secs, and whether I overreacted or not doesn't make it drivel, it's an opinion.

Having read your reply and my original post I agree with you up to a point on the censorship issue, however,

I doubt any responsible parent would be letting their children go unaccompanied to cinema's and those that do would give the "dont go with any men to look at puppies" speech.

I think you should re-think your comments here given recent circumstances Maybe they wern't going to the cinema but face it 10 and 11 year olds DO go on their own whether we like it or not, just spouting the "Responsible Parent" piece is ignoring reality.

Your obviously far more knowledgeable about statistics than me so I'll concede on the size of the pilot, I still think it's too small a cross section though.

Regards
Steve

[Desticado]

to give you an idea on the statistics, most typical oppinion polls are based on 1000 peole at most. So sampling 4000 people is being quite thorough.

as for being resonsible parents, its 'normal' to let your children of that age wonder of for 30 mins or so to the shops etc. I doubt, or would at least hopefully doubt its normal to let them wonder off for 3-4 hours to the cinema without your knowledge.

Im not drawing any similarities what so ever to recent events although following the basis of your post I would like to point out a couple of things (purely for edification purposes). A child is SIGNIFCANTLY more STATISTICALLY likely to be accossted/molested etc by a parent/close member of the family than they ever would be by a stranger hanging around a cinema, sweetshop etc.

The BBFC were also clear that there will be no 12A Certificate for videos/dvd's etc. Since parents/responsible adults are already able to police what their children watch on video/dvd they are simply extending this basis to the cinema.

Just in case there was any misconception, im not having a rant, just pointing out a couple of background facts.

Regards

[i] I would like to point out a couple of things (purely for edification purposes). A child is SIGNIFCANTLY more STATISTICALLY likely to be accossted/molested etc by a parent/close member of the family than they ever would be by a stranger hanging around a cinema, sweetshop etc.

Just in case there was any misconception, im not having a rant, just pointing out a couple of background facts.

Regards [/b]

Agreed, but it creates an opportunity for those who wish to abuse, sorry but I know someone close to me who was a victim so I guess I've a tainted view.

I didn't assume a rant, no need to justify

Steve