Sky Must Be miffed : 24 Related Of Course

[Kopite4Ever]

all the money/time put towards advertising and it at peak got a mere 680,000 viewers. compared to a tv show on ITV at the same time which got 10.3 million.

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/article/ds18880.html

cant see sky being pleased about this at all

[PoochJD]

Hi Bauer,

Don't forget, that Sky will also take into account:
- those who watch it later this week on Sky 1 or Sky Mix, when it gets repeated
- those who watched it on Sky Travel on Sunday night
- those who watched it on Sky Travel +1 on Sunday night
- and those recorded it (video, DVD, or Sky+, et al)

680,000 may not seem like many viewers, but for one two-hour show, on a Sunday night, that's not bad. However, in comparison to a show on ITV that gets some 10 million, then yes, it is appalling.


Pooch

Don't forget the fact that everybody in the UK can receive ITV but not everybody pays for Sky!

Having said that I think you'll find that farscape Peacekeeper wars performed better than 24!

[Starburst]

I reckon the ratings SKY1 got for Buffy and Friends forever coloured what could be expected for the PAY channel.
SKY1 benefits hugely from a terrestrial screening of a show they own the first run rights too and those day are all but gone.
The BBC don't have any big shared shows, ITV are useless and CH4 tend to schedule their shared content at very bad times and mostly aimed at younger audiences and they also now buy more FTA/PAY rights for the sole purpose of making sure SKY don#t get their hands on them (makes E4 going free viable). Finally Five picked themselves out some good US stuff which they share with other PAY channels.

I am still waiting for the day when someone at SKY puts forward the proposal to go ad free on SKY1 and set a marketing trend within the PAY channel community
Ad revenue is a good bonus but sometimes I think SKY are too concerned about it and put those needs ahead of the viewers who contribute around 90% of their income.

[Kazuya Mishima]

Anybody know what viewing figures 24 got when it was on BBC2 for 2 series?

Maybe if SKy wasn't getting high viewing figures they would drop it (and BBC2 could pick it up again next year).

[PoochJD]

Kazuya,

BBC2 generally averaged around 2.5 to 3 milion viewers for Seasons 1 and 2 of "24"! As such, it was one of their most popular shows - moreso, for the timeslot it was given (10pm on a Sunday night)!

However, the BBC's chance of buying any future series, is almost nil. They couldn't agree suitable rights between themselves and 20th Century Fox, so Fox said "Goodbye" to the BBC, and went to offer the show to Sky instead - who went straight ahead and bought Seasons 3 and 4, before offering terrestrial rights to Five.


Pooch

[Kazuya Mishima]

Thanks Pooch.

I had a rant about this back when the deal was agreed. The basis of my rant was that BBC2 had 'broken' the show and promoted it in the UK, and there should have been some 'loyalty' or 'gratitude' shown. Well I hope they're happy.

[Starburst]

Who?

FOX are happy because they got more cash from SKY then they would have got from the BBC. SKY are happy because advertising revenues are a drop in the ocean compared to subscriptions and it seems that had a good three months prior to xmas.
UK distributers of the DVD's are happy because no doubt they sold a few thousand more copies by not having a FTA screening prior to the release.

The only people who are unhappy are those not prepared to have subscription TV (for many genuine and practical reasons) or those who still think that the BBC are actually the power they used to be and have a god given right to rule the TV roost.

[Kazuya Mishima]

Yeah, them.

[JohnG]

I think I'm in the minority here as I've never seen a single episode of 24. My mate is an avid fan and according to him Series 3 was spoilt by Sky sticking adverts in all over the place - probably about 15 minutes of adverts for an hours program. I wonder if a lot of people will just buy it on DVD ?

[shoestring25]

the thing is most of the hour long shows shown on tv when you get them on dvd are actully only 40mins long so you get a good 20mins of adverts in between on tv

me personlly i dont like 24 tried to watch it but after about 5 or 6 episodes i found i was fast forwarding the sky + to get to the end so i thought what was the point in recording it in the first place.

[Tejstar]

Originally Posted by JohnG

I think I'm in the minority here as I've never seen a single episode of 24. My mate is an avid fan and according to him Series 3 was spoilt by Sky sticking adverts in all over the place - probably about 15 minutes of adverts for an hours program. I wonder if a lot of people will just buy it on DVD ?

I'm in the same situation, although currently negotiating with the wife to get the sereis on dvd.

From what people have said though, watching it on dvd is a much better experience. You can watch a few episodes on the trot, instead of one a week.

[lee789]

I totally agree with the dvd experience.

I find that commiting yourself to be in on a sunday night for 24 weeks is a bit much, and I am useless at remebering to record things.

I would imagine with a program like this the first epsiode is watched by loads of folk and this drops massively towards the end of the show, with a handful of people watching.

It is a great show though, but I think they are probably running out of ideas.

[hornydragon]

wasn't 24 part of the fall out when the BBC went FTA instead of FTV on sat? as going unencrytped (saving £millions they had to pay sky to encrypt content) meant they breached the "uk only" part of the rights, ie poeple in france could have watched it of BBC astra hence devaluing the french rights?

[Kopite4Ever]

correct horny. apprently for this, fox were willing to give beeb series 3 but at a much much higher price. remember this as i was a member of the beeb 24 forums and there was uprage, and rightly so. beeb wasnt impressed and that when sky swooped in.

edit : jesus your coming to 10,000 posts