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Old 24-05-2010, 9:23 AM   #91
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I think the plane at the end was just a nice look back on how it started, same as Jack's eye closing in the same way it opened in the 1st episode.
Didn't Vincent find Jack at the start of Season 1 too?
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Old 24-05-2010, 9:24 AM   #92
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I liked the ending too, was not too keen on being reminded I was watching Lost live from the USA every few minutes though.

As The Chad said, where were Walt and Michael.

Also all the other characters that had appeared in throughout the series where did they go, and how did they find their way into their 'purgatory'.

Hmmmmmmm
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Old 24-05-2010, 9:26 AM   #93
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RE The losties escaping on the plane, I would say the plane made it. I half expected to see it blow up when Jack was staring at it, but by this time, Hurley was the new protector and Ben told him that things could be different with him. If it was under Jacobs rules, I think the plane would have blown up.

I enjoyed the ending, they created a nice way of bringing all six seasons back to everyone's brains, there was stuff I'd forgotten about when they were re-connecting.

I knew the instant Desmond tugged the stone from the pool we were getting no further island mystery answers, but TBH, so be it. Any further explanation would not have satisfied everyone, be it aliens, Egyptians, voodoo , God.

I guess the only thing I was questioning by the end was what did they actually mean by bad for everyone? The Losties? The world? The Universe? Everything? Or just the island..

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As The Chad said, where were Walt and Michael.

Also all the other characters that had appeared in throughout the series where did they go, and how did they find their way into their 'purgatory'.
I agree Walt & Michael should have had a mention, however, for Walt, the island experience was probably not one he wanted to make his significant experience of his life, so would not have been in the Church scenario. Similarly, Michael had lost everyone's trust and other minor characters wouldn't have had the same connection with the main group. I thought it was fitting that Ben stayed out of the Church, let's face it, he peed a lot of the Losties off in the 6 season run

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Old 24-05-2010, 9:31 AM   #94
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I liked the ending too, was not too keen on being reminded I was watching Lost live from the USA every few minutes though.
This had already been shown on the east coast of America, which gave Sky time to edit the version we saw that was being shown the same time as it was on in the west coast of America. All those times we had the screen that said something like "The last episode of Lost. Live in the US" would have been a proper ad break in the US, whereas we went straight back to the show. If you add up the amount of those and the time of ad breaks they would have accounted for, then it would total the 15-20 minutes we appeared to be missing.
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Old 24-05-2010, 9:35 AM   #95
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The fact that they cut the American ad's out threw me a little as at the scene in the church I looked at the time and thought wow, we've got another 20 mins left.

No we haven't, it just ended
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Old 24-05-2010, 9:36 AM   #96
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So they didn't need to die on the island, but how come non-island Kate had realised things before Jack, yet at this point island Kate was alive and trying to escape, whilst Jack was fatally wounded?
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Old 24-05-2010, 9:44 AM   #97
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The purgatory timeline and the island timeline were not running next to each other.

So the order they died on the island wasn't the time they remembered the past.
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Old 24-05-2010, 9:45 AM   #98
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So they didn't need to die on the island, but how come non-island Kate had realised things before Jack, yet at this point island Kate was alive and trying to escape, whilst Jack was fatally wounded?
I don't think Jack wanted to remember, he had a son in one and not in another. He had a number of chances to remember everything before seeing his dads coffin.
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Old 24-05-2010, 10:19 AM   #99
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They appear to have blocked access to The Fuselage forums if you're not registered, which is annoying because I only want to read and not post and I was able to read their board last week.

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Old 24-05-2010, 10:26 AM   #100
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So they didn't need to die on the island, but how come non-island Kate had realised things before Jack, yet at this point island Kate was alive and trying to escape, whilst Jack was fatally wounded?
The timeline where they were altogether in the church had no timestamp on it. As christian said, people who had died before him and long after him were there.

So Jack died at the end, he went there. Claire may have died 50 yrs later, but she also went there, to be with those she loved the most (albeit subconsciously at first)
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Old 24-05-2010, 10:29 AM   #101
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I really enjoyed the last episode, thought Jack's death was done brilliantly and a good way to end the show, especially with Vincent being there to keep him company. Glad some of them got off the island, especially Richard and Desmond (assuming Hurley managed to get him off).

I think the whole they are dead/purgatory was a brilliant move, so many people thought the island was purgatory, then we discover it wasn't, but hey guess what, the whole flashsideways is actually where there all dead.

Wasn't bothered about Michael or Walt not being there, Walt probably got married so wants to be with her in the ever after and Michael doesn't want to be anywhere near them, although it is also quite possible his name isn't on the list to get into heaven which is something he alluded to a few episodes ago.

I am assuming that technical fault thing was a prank by somebody, made me laugh.
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Old 24-05-2010, 10:37 AM   #102
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I loved it. The whole Locke/Jack fight on the cliff was pretty sweet, loved Jacks superman punch

The ending was superb imo, i felt sad but really happy for them too. The more i think about it the more i realize i'm gonna really miss Lost.

Seeing it all end has also made me realize that i don't care much for all the mysteries of the island, like other people have said this show was all about the characters for me and i think they ended each characters story perfectly.
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Old 24-05-2010, 10:55 AM   #103
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For a minute when Vincent went up to Jack i was thinking please Vincent dont talk, your not God! Charlotte looked hot btw. It was not perfect, but never expected it to be, but it was very moving and a lovely end to a series, there is a lot to think about. 9/10
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Old 24-05-2010, 11:13 AM   #104
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Call me a soppy old git but Sawyer and Juliets vending machine reunion was lovely.
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Old 24-05-2010, 11:16 AM   #105
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My sky+ never recorded it so i watched it the usual way. It was very touching but had it's faults, i think it was allways going to though. It finnished the whole thing off very well though.

And just for the recorld the spoiler i read the other week was wrong. Not as though anyone is seeing me type this anyway.

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Old 24-05-2010, 11:17 AM   #106
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I really enjoyed the last episode, thought Jack's death was done brilliantly and a good way to end the show, especially with Vincent being there to keep him company. Glad some of them got off the island, especially Richard and Desmond (assuming Hurley managed to get him off).

I think the whole they are dead/purgatory was a brilliant move, so many people thought the island was purgatory, then we discover it wasn't, but hey guess what, the whole flashsideways is actually where there all dead.

Wasn't bothered about Michael or Walt not being there, Walt probably got married so wants to be with her in the ever after and Michael doesn't want to be anywhere near them, although it is also quite possible his name isn't on the list to get into heaven which is something he alluded to a few episodes ago.

I am assuming that technical fault thing was a prank by somebody, made me laugh.
This was pretty much exactly what I was going to write, so thanks Rob for saving me the effort!

Great show and glad it wasn't a total cop out like many expected.
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Old 24-05-2010, 11:22 AM   #107
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I loved it. The whole Locke/Jack fight on the cliff was pretty sweet, loved Jacks superman punch
I gave a bit of a cheer when he went in with the superman punch, but it went to an advert.

When it came back it looked like he didn't even do the superman punch and just grappled with Locke.
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Old 24-05-2010, 11:24 AM   #108
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I gave a bit of a cheer when he went in with the superman punch, but it went to an advert.

When it came back it looked like he didn't even do the superman punch and just grappled with Locke.
Yea i thought it looked a bit odd. Also, it looked as though Locke stabbed Jack just under the arm, then it appears he got stabbed a lot lower down.
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Old 24-05-2010, 11:31 AM   #109
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Ashes to Ashes beat them too it and with more humour, 6 years to get the answer to what everyone expected from the first, just lots of stuff to drag it out over 6 years utter tosh, sorry but I know they can't please everyone but it was a cop out, seems they decided they were dead in the first season and then thought let's make a load of stuff up for the next 4 years and in the 6th year brought together what they could have done in the 2nd or 3rd season.
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Quite enjoyed the ending, although not perfect due to a few questions need answering.

The ending reminded me of Passengers (2008) if anyone has seen it, the ending is very similar.

Nonetheless great Show and glad its over, been a fun ride for the past 5/6 years.

See you folks on the other side someday.
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For a minute there when the dog slept beside Jack I thought the dog was dreaming this all along.

I think the "meeting point" before going to heaven was a nice touch.
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Old 24-05-2010, 11:52 AM   #112
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seems they decided they were dead in the first season and then thought let's make a load of stuff up for the next 4 years and in the 6th year brought together what they could have done in the 2nd or 3rd season.
But that's not true, only certain people were dead throughout the island scenes S1-5. It was only S6 where they introduced the Everybody's dead Dave bit culminating in the church where it was shown that the LA flashes were basically the time line everyone went to after they died, whenever that might have been.

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Old 24-05-2010, 12:10 PM   #113
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How are people still thinking they were dead all along??? Did you not watch the last episode, in fact the last 121 episodes??
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i got the impression that jack was dead from the moment he opened his eyes at the start of the first episode, and everything you see from then is just his "dream" whilst dead

the backstory in the flashbacks were real, as those happened before jack died, but jack basically died as a result of the original plane crash and dreamed the rest

there's no real official explanation of what was going on is there? so right now people are just guessing and making presumptions? or is there a proper explanation?

from early on they said it would have a real world explanation, so obviously that would fit in. they also said it wasn't a dream or made up in hurleys head, and strictly speaking that's true as you don't dream when you are dead

it's as if what we say was the final thoughts before jack passed to the afterlife/heaven and when his dad said they made the place, it's like they made "heaven"/where they ended up as that's what they imagined it to be
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I understand what they were trying to do with the ending and thats fine.
It ties everything up nicely with a big bow

But they failed to answer some of the most fundamental questions of the show. The whole reason for the show.

What was the island. (and the "magical" abilites people got from it)

And who were the people on it. (Jacob and Esau & others)

And: Dharma? Walt? Michael Eko?

Waaaaaay to many questions left unanswered....

All they did with the ending was tell us what happens to the flight 815 passangers and some of the characters that joined the show later.


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Old 24-05-2010, 12:39 PM   #116
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So when in around season 4/5 when the 6 got off the island and then Jack made them go back where were they then ? I'm confused. Also the woman with the White hair who's party they were at( can't remember her name) how did she know about Desmond? Is LA the purgatory for everyone and how they would have wanted there lives to be? I'm LOST Lol
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I understand what they were trying to do with the ending and thats fine.
It ties everything up nicely with a bow

But they failed to answer some of the most fundamental questions of the show. The whole reason for the show

What was the island. (and the "magical" abilites people got from it)

And who were the people on it. (Jacob and Esau)


All they did with the ending was tell us what happens to the flight 815 passangers and the characters that joined the show later.

my take is they just crashed on the island, jack died and everything else is basically a dream type thing that went on in jacks head between dying and moving to the afterlife, thus the island had no powers etc etc. most of the losties met or passed by before they went on the plane, thus lodging in his subconscious

i could be completely wrong however
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Old 24-05-2010, 12:54 PM   #118
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Something must have happened between Jack waking up after the plane crash and his death at the end because at the start he was wearing a suit, and at the end he was wearing his t-shirt.
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Why did it take Kate 6 seasons to tell Jack she loved him ? you would of thought this would of came sooner on the island cause they were invoved off it so seems abit odd ?
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Something must have happened between Jack waking up after the plane crash and his death at the end because at the start he was wearing a suit, and at the end he was wearing his t-shirt.
well my take is that when he opens his eyes at the start of s1, that's the start of his (let's call it for simpleness) "dream", and he ends his "dream" lying back down in a similar or same spot and closing his eyes

so it's like the island etc is limbo, getting off the island and then back on, it's just a dream in limbo

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