[wednesday83]

Just been comparing the quality of picture for the Queens tennis on BBC HD vs Eurosport HD, and as expected eurosport HD wins, but the quality was not as bad as I expected on BBC, very shocked indeed.

The picture was cleaner on shots when the cameras were moving to follow the ball and also the scoreboard also stood out more on Eurosport. The edges of the screen also seemed a little washed out on BBC HD yet didnt on Eurosport HD. Not a bad effort tho from the BBC. Just simply missing a little extra bandwith or new encoder, hopefully which someone will change for Wimbledon.

Anyone else compared???

[C225]

I've flicked between the two a couple times and eurosport is slightly better picture wise but i prefer the BBC commentary so have been watching that.

[blu disc]

the only problem i have is eurosport HD goes into 4:3

[Coffin]

The Eurosport HD feed was definitely better than the BBC one in my opinion.

I've a very good plasma screen and the Oxford Boat Race earlier this year and a cylcing event (which, I can't remember now) both on Eurosport HD have been the best broadcasts I've seen yet

[derek500]

Originally Posted by coffin137

The Eurosport HD feed was definitely better than the BBC one in my opinion.

I've a very good plasma screen and the Oxford Boat Race earlier this year and a cylcing event (which, I can't remember now) both on Eurosport HD have been the best broadcasts I've seen yet

Was the Boat Race in HD?

[Coffin]

Yes definitely (on Europsport as mentioned, not the Beeb). I remember doing the comparison in justification to myself as to why I pay the £10 HD sub

I can't remember if it was 'Native' HD or whatever the Eurosport variable is.

[bekko]

I compared the two today and thought it was slightly better on the bbc but both looked good.

[ozzzy189]

i hope the british open is in hd this year !

[uno]

It has been announced this week that this year BBC are producing all courts in HD for the first time and not just centre court and court 1 as in previous years so this should allow the same coverage as on BBC 1 and 2

[derek500]

Originally Posted by ozzzy189

i hope the british open is in hd this year !

If you're talking about the golf. It's not.

[derek500]

Originally Posted by uno

It has been announced this week that this year BBC are producing all courts in HD for the first time and not just centre court and court 1 as in previous years so this should allow the same coverage as on BBC 1 and 2

According to the EPG and Digiguide the Tennis from Eastbourne is in HD on Eurosport tomorrow.

Who's the host broadcaster? The BBC aren't covering it this year.

Re Wimbledon, are you referring to this quote from the BBC website?

This year, for the first time, the entire BBC coverage of the championships will be available in high definition on the BBC HD channel.

I assume that means all the links and studio stuff, which if I remember last year weren't shown on BBC HD. In between games, BBC1/2 went to Sue Barker for updates of other courts. BBC HD remained on court with no commentary.

The official Wimbledon site says only Centre and Number One in HD.

http://aeltc2009.wimbledon.org/en_GB...elevision.html

[uno]

My information is from SISLIve who are filming the championship for the BBC and broadcasters around the world

SIS LIVE is providing all the HD facilities for host broadcaster BBC Sport to cover tennis
matches on nine courts, so all games at The Championships will be recorded in HD. It means
a complete upgrade of all the vision equipment covering the Tournament. SIS LIVE is
providing four OB units, including the newgeneration
OB 3 truck, launched last year, and the
brand new OB 7, which gets its first outing at Wimbledon. Both new trucks offer the latest
audio and video recording and routing technologies, giving clients complete flexibility and
reliability in a comfortable, spacious and stylish environment.
Paul Davies, Executive Producer, Wimbledon, BBC Sport, says: “BBC Sport is hugely excited
to be offering the entire coverage of Wimbledon 2009 in high definition. As host broadcaster,
we have offered Centre Court and Court 1 in HD in recent years, but for the first time we will
not only be producing all nine courts in HD but also delivering our full BBC domestic output in
high definition. This will allow The BBC HD Channel to effectively simulcast what we are
transmitting on either BBC One or BBC Two. This is clearly a huge technical challenge and
much work has gone on behind the scenes with our partners at SIS LIVE to pull this project
off. With HD all the way, the new roof on Centre Court together with a new Court 2, this year’s
Wimbledon should prove to be a stunner, in more ways than one!”

The launch of our latest high definition truck, OB 7, to sit
alongside OB 3, OB 12 and Unit 2 at Wimbledon, demonstrates that SIS LIVE can offer
clients the most sophisticated, unrivalled outside broadcast facilities in Europe.”
As well as four OB trucks, SIS LIVE is providing a total of at least 70 fullyspecified
high
definition cameras across the site, including 53 Sony HDC1500
and HDC950
cameras, 8
SuperMotion threetimes
slowmotion
cameras, 6 HDC950s
working in “split head mode” and
2 HD radio cameras, one Steadicam and one handheld.
In addition, SIS LIVE will supply 31
HD VTR recorders and 20 networked EVS recorders, allowing slow motion replays to be
accessed by any user on the system. A 47TB SAN server with four FCP editing positions plus ingest is also being supplied. With the move to full HD coverage, a total of 80 kilometres – 50
miles – of cabling has to be laid across the site.
SIS LIVE, which is the largest uplink provider in Europe, is providing all the outgoing circuits
from Wimbledon for BBC Sport. There are eight outgoing circuits from the site being relayed
to Television Centre for the Domestic and Interactive operations, plus international circuits.
For added security, SIS LIVE is providing two completely separate paths for the
transmissions, one using microwave links to the Crystal Palace transmitter, the other using a
local fibre provider.

[New Bloke]

Originally Posted by uno

As well as four OB trucks, SIS LIVE is providing a total of at least 70 fully specified high definition cameras across the site, including 53 Sony HDC1500
and HDC950 cameras

Blimey...

Sony HDC1500 = £45,000.00 each
Sony HDC950 = £30,000.00 each

That's a lot of money just on the cameras! £1.5 - £2.5 mil

[uno]

As I believe is stated on the official Wimbledon website this is the largest annual outside broadcast. It is available to over 784 million viewers worldwide

Dont forget on top of the facilities that the BBC/SISLive ob are providing for the world feed there will also be Visions HD ob units for US presentation coverage, Arena HD for Japan and I am told Arqiva are providing HD facilities for Poland and Scandinavia so will possibly be another 45 HD cameras on site and another 4 or 5 HD units which they have increased the space for this year

[ozzzy189]

Originally Posted by derek500

If you're talking about the golf. It's not.

I was, wrong thread i know, but surely in 2009 we can have hd golf on the bbc ?

[ozzzy189]

Originally Posted by New Bloke

Blimey...

Sony HDC1500 = £45,000.00 each
Sony HDC950 = £30,000.00 each

That's a lot of money just on the cameras! £1.5 - £2.5 mil

what's the point spending all that money on decent cameras when the encoders and bitrate are not up to the same standard ? or have they been improved ?

[derek500]

Originally Posted by ozzzy189

I was, wrong thread i know, but surely in 2009 we can have hd golf on the bbc ?

2010 has been mentioned!! Just watching last year's US Open highlights.

Golf is stunning in HD. Thank goodness Sky realise that and put so much resources into their week by week coverage.

[bjd]

Originally Posted by derek500

If you're talking about the golf. It's not.

[Zincubus]

I am willing to bet that EuroSport have the BEST camera angles !!!

When I watch BBC tennis I am dissappointed as the angles don't show how hard and fast the modern tennis game is -I think the BBC cameras are set too high making the courts appear shorter or squat like.

Eurosport angles seem lower and the shots from behind the players shows what amazing players they are !