Wow

[Stereo Steve]

Having never beleived much in the hype around subs and managed with a 5.0 system for years, I finally dipped my toe in the water and bought an MJ Ref 100. Took me a while to integrate it properly, although it still needs fine tuning. Temptation, as always is to think 'I can't hear it' and turn it up. I quickly realised that rather than 'hearing' it, best results are gained when you only notice it when you turn it off in the middle of something.

Anyway, wow. What a difference. Watched Deep Blue Sea last night (crap) and the effect was awesome. Brilliant. I was concerned that it would affect my music listening but setting Xover to 60 and keeping the level low beefed everything up nicely and really allowed my speakers to sing.

I'm well impressed and would recommend anyone who is sceptical about subs to have a go. Trouble is, now I have yet another expesive upgrade path to follow.

[Ian J]

You're preaching to the converted

[swartzy]

I have ordered the MJ ACOUTICS ref 100 and I am eagerly awaiting its arrival....I already have a Tannoy MX-10sub that I was thinking of using on the centre channel thingy that is on MJ ACOUSTICS site....have you connected with a phono low level socket or any high level sockets with a neutrik speakon lead? how do you turn the mj acoustics off?Excuse my ignorance as I have not seen it yet but would be happy at getting as much info as I can on it....

thanks
swartzy



My current system
Tannoy M3 front and rears
Tannoy MMR front effects
Tannoy MX-10SUB
Tannoy MC Centre
Yamaha DSP-AX2 AV Amplifier

[sticker]

Steve,
Welcome to the LFE club...............good ain't it ................now go forth and preach the gospel!

Regards
John

[Johnboy9876]

Steve,


Thanks for the post. I too have managed on a 5.0 system for some time and have been constantly thinking about the 'Sub' question. It's great to know that I haven't been the only one that has thought this way .I'm going to demo a couple at the end of the month and hopefully will be enjoying the same results that you have had after that.

Regards

John

[mjn]

i'm still 5.0..........no doubt have to go to 5.1 at some point!

[Stereo Steve]

So far I have my MJ on the low level (crappy supplied) lead only. This will be replaced shortly with a Mark Grant lead instead.

I use my Denon 2900 as CD/SACD/DVD-A and set speakers to small. I then have the xover on the sub at 60 and this seems to work well. The 2900 xover is at 80 but it seems to roll off well below that and setting the sub at 80 makes my music muddy and coloured.

For movies, the processor does the work and I set the xover to 60 for added oomph from the floorstanders. This way I can use the pro's levels to adjust movie bass and the DVD's to do music. My Rotel pro also allows to have adjustable boost settings for different signals, like DD, DTS, 2 ch etc.

I think the key thing is backing it off. I have heard subs before and they must have been over cranked because the overall effect was appaling. The proponents would sit there saying' hey, feel that bass' and I'm thinking 'this sounds crap mate'. I have mine set lower for music and it does a great job of bringing out those kick drums and low bass notes . For rock music, it gives it real drive and feel. For movies, it's a bit higher but not overpowering. Some scenes can sound quite menacing!

Not sure I want to bother with high level as this works for me just fine. I guess having bass management on the DVD helps greatly.

As for on/off it's just left on at the mo, seems fine and stays cool and quiet when not in use.

[simonthepieman]

Steve

Now you have an essential item in your system

I would consider a bfd to tame the room response of your sub
i was amazed the diff a £90 processor box can make
search this subwoofer section for more info on the bfd
(feedback destroyer)

[swartzy]

Thanks for the info......I was considering connecting the Tannoy Sub to the centre speaker as suggested on the MJ Acoustics site with a high level neutrik speakon lead ...how much benefit this is likely to have I am not sure as I haven't tried it yet...The MJ sub would be connected by phono low level directly to the amp...Where I am confused is how a Neutrik lead may enhance my experience?

thanks again
swartzy

[ASH1]

Originally posted by Johnboy9876
Steve,


Thanks for the post. I too have managed on a 5.0 system for some time and have been constantly thinking about the 'Sub' question. It's great to know that I haven't been the only one that has thought this way .I'm going to demo a couple at the end of the month and hopefully will be enjoying the same results that you have had after that.

Regards

John

Hi John & mjn, I've have a Rel Quake in the classified if your interested.

ASH1

[mjn]

lol, i was looking at something a little bigger!

Maybe a ASW 750.......its just getting the girlfriend persuaded that we need one.

[Stereo Steve]

It's not for sale any more.

[jamesl01]

Steve

I've recently joined the MJ Acoustics club as well. Out of interest, what do you have the low level gain set at? Mine is at about 20% round from the minimum marker.

Cheers

James

[ASH1]

Originally posted by Stereo Steve
It's not for sale any more.

That's because some people know a good deal when they see one mention no names Steve.

ASH1

[Stereo Steve]

Mine's about 12 o'clock but I guess it depends on the output level of the processor. I can boost mine a bit if I choose which would involve lowering the level on the sub. I have not yet set it up with my meter properly, just mucking about with levels, xovers and positioning at the mo.