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09-07-2009, 5:00 PM
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My Monolith REW graph
hi folks,
right i've been playing around with REW in an attempt to see what my sub is doing. with help from Moonfly i created this
i'm not quite sure if this is good bad or ugly
i guess what i'm saying is HEEEEEEEEEEEEELP
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09-07-2009, 5:20 PM
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Re: My Monolith REW graph
Help with what?
Doesn't look bad at the bottom, but it drops off some above 40 doesn't it?
I'm not saying that's bad though. I'd expect it's better for action movies than general telly.
Depends how your speakers interact, but if you're running an 80hz crossover, you might want to try lowering it.
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09-07-2009, 5:32 PM
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Re: My Monolith REW graph
help with what? good question. i have no idea
the graph i posted is the sub on it's own, i disconnected the main speakers. i have my crossovers set to 80 on the onk 875
i guess i really wanted to know if that was an acceptable response from my monolith
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09-07-2009, 5:51 PM
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Re: My Monolith REW graph
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help with what? good question. i have no idea
the graph i posted is the sub on it's own, i disconnected the main speakers. i have my crossovers set to 80 on the onk 875
i guess i really wanted to know if that was an acceptable response from my monolith
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Bung a BFD into the mix with quite a broad cut at 35hz and Bob's yer uncle.
If not, it would probably be great for films, as it is, with plenty of bottom end welly.
Might be a bit heavy for music.
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09-07-2009, 5:59 PM
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Re: My Monolith REW graph
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help with what? good question. i have no idea
the graph i posted is the sub on it's own, i disconnected the main speakers. i have my crossovers set to 80 on the onk 875
i guess i really wanted to know if that was an acceptable response from my monolith
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Yes, it looks fine at the bottom end
I realise that's sub only, which is why I mentioned speaker integration.
I'd run another sweep now with the speakers, to see what you get.
I'm guessing you'll see a fair dip in the 40-70 area. There's a lot of info to be had there, which is why I think letting your speakers do a bit more might be of benefit.
But as Nimby suggests, you have a good case for using a BFD, as you could cut the bottom to suit
The main point is you've got decent bottom end, so you've got options
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09-07-2009, 6:03 PM
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Re: My Monolith REW graph
good good, i have a dedicated room thats just for films and PS3 gaming duties, so no music.
i'll have a think about a BFD, any other suggestions or should i leave it as it is.
i'd quite like to know what i'm looking at, to be honest it makes no sense to me, if someone would be good enough to break it down for me so i understand it a little it'd be much appreciated
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09-07-2009, 6:23 PM
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good good, i have a dedicated room thats just for films and PS3 gaming duties, so no music.
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Blimey, there's every chance you don't have to do anything then
How to explain it?
Hmm, well basically the blue line is the one you're aiming for, for a flat response that is.
Your response, the green line, does track it pretty well, but as you can see it rises fairly rapidly below 40hz. Whilst it's not ideal for music (because it'll sound one-noted and too deep) it's ideal for anything with a boom crash bang type soundtrack, because all the noisy effects will be enhanced 
Not necessarily 100% accurate, but bloody good fun
So in your case, I don't think I'd do anything at all, which is a bonus.
I'd still like to see a curve of everything running though, just out of interest.
The point I suppose is, if you're happy with how it sounds, leave well alone
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09-07-2009, 6:34 PM
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Re: My Monolith REW graph
i've just reconnected my front speakers and done another graph, i have NOT altered anything and here it is
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09-07-2009, 6:49 PM
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Re: My Monolith REW graph
What did I tell you Andy
hook line and sinker
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Re: My Monolith REW graph
Mine also had a massive dip after I ran mains + sub together.
I levelled it out by removing the cut filters I had on the BFD at that frequency, so they both levelled out nicely. honestly don't know if that's correct or why (constructive interference  ) but the graph looked nice.
Have a read up on the american forum where there are in depth guides to house curves. I still haven't got it all or sure if I have even done it correctly, but when I posted over there the guys said an awful lot I followed from their guides was a little old and the wrong way of doing it.
Just been enjoying films since rather than tweaking
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09-07-2009, 6:57 PM
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Re: My Monolith REW graph
you were right Al
What have i done ...................................
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09-07-2009, 6:59 PM
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Re: My Monolith REW graph
Flip the phase switch on the sub and run it again
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Re: My Monolith REW graph
the above graph with the front speakers connected is without smoothing if that makes any difference.
Ad- i had a little read on the american site and to be quiet honest i got completely lost. think i've had too many beers to be messing around with this.
i'll have another look and see what i can come up with
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Re: My Monolith REW graph
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Flip the phase switch on the sub and run it again 
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Try it
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Re: My Monolith REW graph
irongiant--- i have a phase knob not a switch. it's currently at 0 do you mean turn it all the way round? or just to the 1st mark, sub instructions say the turn to 1st mark
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