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HugoFJH · 08-09-2010, 9:30 AM

Guys if you can give me some ideas about the below it would be really appreciated.

Im now using tsmuxer for majority of discs and its working well, however I have a few multi-part discs (Toy Story & 2)which as suggested earlier you have to use clown bd for.

Both my discs are brand new, and in immacculate condition and play without any issue at all on any br player - however TS 2 ripped correctly without any issue , but Clown bd insists (on 3 diff attempts) that "disc integrity is faulty" and wont proceed for original TS disc

I could try and blag HMV into swapping the disc like for like, but I dont actually have the receipt so its unlikely thats going ot work (and afterall it does play ok)

Any ideas?

Smurfin · 09-09-2010, 9:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HugoFJH

Guys if you can give me some ideas about the below it would be really appreciated.

Im now using tsmuxer for majority of discs and its working well, however I have a few multi-part discs (Toy Story & 2)which as suggested earlier you have to use clown bd for.

Both my discs are brand new, and in immacculate condition and play without any issue at all on any br player - however TS 2 ripped correctly without any issue , but Clown bd insists (on 3 diff attempts) that "disc integrity is faulty" and wont proceed for original TS disc

I could try and blag HMV into swapping the disc like for like, but I dont actually have the receipt so its unlikely thats going ot work (and afterall it does play ok)

Any ideas?

Toy Story 1 and 2 worked fine for me. Probably a dodgy disc (ripping software seems to be quite sensitive in my experience). Try running it through ToNMT, then if it works just re-run it through tsmuxer to make it into a Blu-Ray folder. ClownBD isn't the only way to rip multi-part discs

Bossk128 · 15-09-2010, 4:20 PM

This may seem like a lazy question, but I've looked and can't find a simple answer. My powerline network can only stream at 2.5mb/s (or 20Mb/s) - what can I add to High Profile in advanced to state this as a max bitrate (combined audio and video of course!).

Cheers.

point zero · 23-09-2010, 7:08 PM

Hi,

Been ripping my bluray collection for a while with no real issues untill now, i just ripped "Kick Ass" the problem im getting is it plays everything through my side speakers and nothing through my centre speaker.

I am using the latest version of AnyDVD (6.6.9.0) and using ToNmt to rip it in a .ts file, i have been doing this with all my blurays and it hasnt been an issue un till now, i also ripped "Shelter" and its the same problem but then i ripped "universal soldier regeneration" and its fine.

Any suggestions??

Smurfin · 23-09-2010, 7:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by point zero

Hi,

Been ripping my bluray collection for a while with no real issues untill now, i just ripped "Kick Ass" the problem im getting is it plays everything through my side speakers and nothing through my centre speaker.

I am using the latest version of AnyDVD (6.6.9.0) and using ToNmt to rip it in a .ts file, i have been doing this with all my blurays and it hasnt been an issue un till now, i also ripped "Shelter" and its the same problem but then i ripped "universal soldier regeneration" and its fine.

Any suggestions??

Download a copy of media info and get it to check the file - this should show you what audio is encoded on the rip.

Is Kick Ass a multi-file or single file BD? If it's single file, also try ripping it with just tsmuxer and see if that cures it.

Smurfin · 23-09-2010, 7:50 PM

This has reminded me - I've not updated this thread since the first post (sorry). I will try and get round to it with other ripping methods for different types of media in the next few weeks

philipb · 24-09-2010, 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by point zero

Hi,

Been ripping my bluray collection for a while with no real issues untill now, i just ripped "Kick Ass" the problem im getting is it plays everything through my side speakers and nothing through my centre speaker.

I am using the latest version of AnyDVD (6.6.9.0) and using ToNmt to rip it in a .ts file, i have been doing this with all my blurays and it hasnt been an issue un till now, i also ripped "Shelter" and its the same problem but then i ripped "universal soldier regeneration" and its fine.

Any suggestions??

Try ClownBD. It's more longwinded than ToNMT but you get to see which audio tracks are being selected.

Smurfin · 24-09-2010, 11:17 AM

You can with tsmuxer too

nwgarratt · 24-09-2010, 4:10 PM

I use clownbd and had no problems.

I used to use tsmuxer on it's own but it doesn't work with seamless branching titles (such as Pixar and Disney). Audio can also be out of sync. As Clownbd uses Eac3to to extract, it uses the audio delay. Audio often starts a several ms after the video. It also handles the seamless branching.

Smurfin · 24-09-2010, 4:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nwgarratt

I use clownbd and had no problems.

I used to use tsmuxer on it's own but it doesn't work with seamless branching titles (such as Pixar and Disney). Audio can also be out of sync. As Clownbd uses Eac3to to extract, it uses the audio delay. Audio often starts a several ms after the video. It also handles the seamless branching.

That's why i asked if it's single file. If it is there's no issue with audio delay either

nwgarratt · 24-09-2010, 4:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smurfin

That's why i asked if it's single file. If it is there's no issue with audio delay either

I have had out of sync with single files too which I will always use the ClownBD GUI.

The audio will go out of sync when each seamless branching title starts and gets worse as it goes.

Smurfin · 24-09-2010, 4:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nwgarratt

I have had out of sync with single files too which I will always use the ClownBD GUI.

Not been an issue that I've found I must say, tsmuxer is fast and perfect for single file.

Quote:

The audio will go out of sync when each seamless branching title starts and gets worse as it goes.

I know

MeanDorris · 27-09-2010, 7:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by point zero

Hi,

Been ripping my bluray collection for a while with no real issues untill now, i just ripped "Kick Ass" the problem im getting is it plays everything through my side speakers and nothing through my centre speaker.

I am using the latest version of AnyDVD (6.6.9.0) and using ToNmt to rip it in a .ts file, i have been doing this with all my blurays and it hasnt been an issue un till now, i also ripped "Shelter" and its the same problem but then i ripped "universal soldier regeneration" and its fine.

Any suggestions??

Not really too sure why people are messing with ToNMT, TSMuxer or ClownBD just to rip blu rays to m2ts or ts files?

How much space to do really save compared to just browsing the disc and copying the largest m2ts file (on non branching titles at least)? Sure you could strip out the foreign language tracks but is it really worth the messing in the grand scheme of things?

nwgarratt · 27-09-2010, 8:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MeanDorris

Not really too sure why people are messing with ToNMT, TSMuxer or ClownBD just to rip blu rays to m2ts or ts files?

I am using ClownBD to create movie only Blu Ray ISO's not m2ts or ts files. The iso can then be burned to a disc or played on a media streamer (with chapters intact).

Smurfin · 28-09-2010, 6:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MeanDorris

Not really too sure why people are messing with ToNMT, TSMuxer or ClownBD just to rip blu rays to m2ts or ts files?

How much space to do really save compared to just browsing the disc and copying the largest m2ts file (on non branching titles at least)? Sure you could strip out the foreign language tracks but is it really worth the messing in the grand scheme of things?

Every GB counts imho, although in my case it's more to do with that I want proper BD structures - m2ts files are too limiting in my experience, though you're right...nothing inherently wrong with just copying the largest file across (for single file movies).

nwgarratt · 28-09-2010, 8:11 PM

The removal of a LPCM track can be as much as 6GB saving. Many THD or DTS-HD MA audio are still several GB in size.

MeanDorris · 29-09-2010, 7:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nwgarratt

The removal of a LPCM track can be as much as 6GB saving. Many THD or DTS-HD MA audio are still several GB in size.

OK, but if you have gone down the BD route why remove the hi-res audio tracks? Unless there are also some foreign language ones but this seems rare...

Smurfin · 29-09-2010, 8:00 PM

You wouldn't, just if there are duplicates which there sometimes are.

nwgarratt · 29-09-2010, 8:22 PM

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Originally Posted by MeanDorris

OK, but if you have gone down the BD route why remove the hi-res audio tracks? Unless there are also some foreign language ones but this seems rare...

Not everyone one like myself can use HD audio so no point in saving it. Also, not all media streamers can actually handle HD audio.

lumos · 03-10-2010, 3:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Smurfin

What do people want to see next? Your choice is the following:

DVD ripping guide
HD-DVD conversion to Blu-Ray
HD-DVD TV series ripping
Ripping both Blu-Ray/HD-DVD for the PCH C-200.

Here is one vote for HD-DVD series ripping.

Finally got Tonmt working. Windows 7 clearly have different locations for Eac3to and Java and there is no path to them. Thus paths must be added to get it to even run. I wonder if anyone else came across this and gave up. I almost did.

Most of my HD-DVDs are ripping away happily and playing back on Dune HD Max very happily. No luck in getting other than first episode of TV series so far, even making manual selection.

Ian

lumos · 03-10-2010, 3:07 PM

I received a message on Tonmt saying I had an audio overlap of 330ms at time=0.00. Sure enough the audio track is 330ms out all the way through. This is such a great movie I would like to fix this. m2ts format and I just have audio passthrough.

Many thanks,

Ian

nwgarratt · 03-10-2010, 3:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lumos

I received a message on Tonmt saying I had an audio overlap of 330ms at time=0.00. Sure enough the audio track is 330ms out all the way through. This is such a great movie I would like to fix this. m2ts format and I just have audio passthrough.

Many thanks,

Ian

You can enter the audio delay in Tsmuxer.

lumos · 03-10-2010, 6:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nwgarratt

You can enter the audio delay in Tsmuxer.

Is that possible when it is being called from Tonmt? I could not see any parameters that it exposed in Preferences.

Thanks for your reply,

Ian

nwgarratt · 03-10-2010, 8:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lumos

Is that possible when it is being called from Tonmt? I could not see any parameters that it exposed in Preferences.

Thanks for your reply,

Ian

I don't know. I use clownbd or tsmuxer with its gui. With that gui, it is possible to enter the delay.

SmartLabs - SmartLabs tsMuxeR

lumos · 03-10-2010, 9:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nwgarratt

I don't know. I use clownbd or tsmuxer with its gui. With that gui, it is possible to enter the delay.

SmartLabs - SmartLabs tsMuxeR

I have solved the problem. I did not use autosource the second time but manually chose the two feature EVO files. This encoding presented three EVOs when using autosource and it seems that the first one screwed up the features.

Perfect sync now as with every other HD-DVD rip.

Now to work out what I am going to do with all my HD-DVD TV series.

Thanks for your help,

Ian

nwgarratt · 03-10-2010, 9:31 PM

clownbd will convert HD-DVD to BD/m2ts/ts. You can select each episode and create individual files.

scumball · 04-10-2010, 2:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lumos

Here is one vote for HD-DVD series ripping.

Finally got Tonmt working. Windows 7 clearly have different locations for Eac3to and Java and there is no path to them. Thus paths must be added to get it to even run. I wonder if anyone else came across this and gave up. I almost did.

Most of my HD-DVDs are ripping away happily and playing back on Dune HD Max very happily. No luck in getting other than first episode of TV series so far, even making manual selection.

Ian

If you haven't tried it (recently) then MakeMKV is now better supported for HD-DVD. I tried Battlestar Galactica the other day and it seemed to work fine (although my aged A110 won't pass-through HD audio on MKV files...)

lumos · 04-10-2010, 2:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scumball

If you haven't tried it (recently) then MakeMKV is now better supported for HD-DVD. I tried Battlestar Galactica the other day and it seemed to work fine (although my aged A110 won't pass-through HD audio on MKV files...)

Thanks, I will add it on my list of things to try. I noticed that the Tonmt speed dropped to 7MB/s on the last conversion. I checked my 16TB Drobopro and sure enough it was showing a disc failure. A credit to the DroboPro, I took out the dead WD EARS 2TB, popped in a new one and saw the speed increase to 18MB/s. That is not bad considering it was reading an ISO from the Drobo and writing the M2TS back to it whilst rebuilding its array. It never missed a beat.

Thanks for your help; I think I will pause my ripping to give the Array time to rebuild.

Ian

kieranfazer1000 · 06-10-2010, 11:26 AM

Hi all, I am using anydvd and DVDShrink, just backing up main film to IFO/VOBs I am using 1Gb file size as recommended by DVDShrink, but during playback I get a black screen for a fraction of a second between each file, to make matters worse when playing them on my WDTV live it changes audio source to directors commentary when changing to next file in sequence, I don’t really want to compress all my DVDs to mkv or mpeg4 (still considering this for my PS3 though)

Should I just create 1 large VOB?
Should I compress them?
Or is it a settings thing?

Thanks
Kieran

nwgarratt · 06-10-2010, 12:44 PM

In Shrink just use reauthor mode and make iso's. The WDTV will play them. You can also select only the audio you want.

You can still compress them or leave it at 100% quality.

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HugoFJH Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: London Thanks: Gave 71, Got 77 Posts: 2,084	Advertisement Want to Advertise? Guys if you can give me some ideas about the below it would be really appreciated. Im now using tsmuxer for majority of discs and its working well, however I have a few multi-part discs (Toy Story & 2)which as suggested earlier you have to use clown bd for. Both my discs are brand new, and in immacculate condition and play without any issue at all on any br player - however TS 2 ripped correctly without any issue , but Clown bd insists (on 3 diff attempts) that "disc integrity is faulty" and wont proceed for original TS disc I could try and blag HMV into swapping the disc like for like, but I dont actually have the receipt so its unlikely thats going ot work (and afterall it does play ok) Any ideas?

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lumos Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Thanks: Gave 2, Got 4 Posts: 33	Audio overlap on Luck # Slevin HD-DVD I received a message on Tonmt saying I had an audio overlap of 330ms at time=0.00. Sure enough the audio track is 330ms out all the way through. This is such a great movie I would like to fix this. m2ts format and I just have audio passthrough. Many thanks, Ian

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Bossk128 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Perth Thanks: Gave 61, Got 73 Posts: 1,120	This may seem like a lazy question, but I've looked and can't find a simple answer. My powerline network can only stream at 2.5mb/s (or 20Mb/s) - what can I add to High Profile in advanced to state this as a max bitrate (combined audio and video of course!). Cheers.

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point zero Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Thanks: Gave 38, Got 34 Posts: 596	Hi, Been ripping my bluray collection for a while with no real issues untill now, i just ripped "Kick Ass" the problem im getting is it plays everything through my side speakers and nothing through my centre speaker. I am using the latest version of AnyDVD (6.6.9.0) and using ToNmt to rip it in a .ts file, i have been doing this with all my blurays and it hasnt been an issue un till now, i also ripped "Shelter" and its the same problem but then i ripped "universal soldier regeneration" and its fine. Any suggestions??

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Smurfin Illustrious Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Planning the next project Thanks: Gave 793, Got 1,227 Posts: 15,585	This has reminded me - I've not updated this thread since the first post (sorry). I will try and get round to it with other ripping methods for different types of media in the next few weeks

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Smurfin Illustrious Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Planning the next project Thanks: Gave 793, Got 1,227 Posts: 15,585	You can with tsmuxer too

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nwgarratt Eminent Member Join Date: May 2002 Thanks: Gave 477, Got 2,051 Posts: 21,746	I use clownbd and had no problems. I used to use tsmuxer on it's own but it doesn't work with seamless branching titles (such as Pixar and Disney). Audio can also be out of sync. As Clownbd uses Eac3to to extract, it uses the audio delay. Audio often starts a several ms after the video. It also handles the seamless branching.

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nwgarratt Eminent Member Join Date: May 2002 Thanks: Gave 477, Got 2,051 Posts: 21,746	The removal of a LPCM track can be as much as 6GB saving. Many THD or DTS-HD MA audio are still several GB in size.

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Smurfin Illustrious Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Planning the next project Thanks: Gave 793, Got 1,227 Posts: 15,585	You wouldn't, just if there are duplicates which there sometimes are.

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nwgarratt Eminent Member Join Date: May 2002 Thanks: Gave 477, Got 2,051 Posts: 21,746	clownbd will convert HD-DVD to BD/m2ts/ts. You can select each episode and create individual files.

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nwgarratt Eminent Member Join Date: May 2002 Thanks: Gave 477, Got 2,051 Posts: 21,746	In Shrink just use reauthor mode and make iso's. The WDTV will play them. You can also select only the audio you want. You can still compress them or leave it at 100% quality.

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