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Old 29-04-2010, 9:26 PM   #121
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Hello,

I made a home video from my HD camcorder and when I transferred it on to my computer I saved the file as an ISO and burned the ISO file as a 'Data Disc' rather than 'BDMW AV Disc'. So now when I put the disc into my PS3 or BD Player I cant play my home movie.

What my question is that is it possible to convert the ISO file, from the same disc, to a file that can be playable in my PS3 or BD Player??

I rather not make another copy as the discs are pretty expensive and would not like to waste this one.

Any help would be grateful.

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Most writing software can write ISOs. Instead of selecting 'New Disc' blah blah you generally select 'Open' and browse /select your ISO file. The software will then burn the structure contained in the ISO rather than the ISO itself.

If you have deleted the ISO from your computer then if you have saved the ISO on a disc as data when you insert the disc into your PC BD drive you should just see an ISO file on the disc and be able to copy it back off disc to your PC.
 
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Smurfin - do you use DVD shrink on no video compression and then let the PCH play the VOB's? or do you re-encode in another fomat? or allow DVD shrink to compress the video?

I've strated ripping my DVDs the first way but the files are big (although I've got the space for this) - I just don't want to rip at lower quality and then have to do them again in a few years.
 
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I ripped my whole DVD collection with NO compression using DVDshrink . . . took up more space but the PCH has no problem playing them. Compressions handy if you wanted to rip one of the files to a disk afterwards . . . a backup of the backup

But I guessed that no compression was the purest way to backup my dvd's and have them accessed by the PCH
 
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I use Handbrake to compress my dvds rips from DVDShrink.

Very good program. I can't tell the difference. However it will take about 3 hours to convert one film (depending on your CPU).
 
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cheers - I'll carry on as I am, thanks
 
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I converted all of mine using handbrake. you should get approx 3x more films on the same space (thats what I found) depending on your settings.

My quad core 6600 would re-encode a film in real time (90 mins for a 90 min film).

If you want to have a go then search on this forum for the guide that I wrote
 
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Right guys, I've downloaded everything that's mentioned at the start, and read through the whole thread, but I don't think I've found what I want.

Basically I want to rip my blurays, keep lossless audio/video, keep menu system, chapters, etc. as I'm failry sure that a lot of the media players now can handle such things (I've yet to buy one!). I think it's basically a 1:1 rip of the discs that I want. Maybe get rid of some of the extras, but that wouldn't be vital.

Is there anything, or any guide, that can help me out?

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You just need AnyDVDHD then if you want a full 1:1 copy.
 
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You just need AnyDVDHD then if you want a full 1:1 copy.
Thanks Rom.

So with the AnyDVDHD, I'll maintain the folder structure/menus/hd audio/etc., drop them onto my external hdd, hook it up to a Popcorn Hour (or whatever), and it'll be exactly the same as the disc?
 
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Correct. You can rip as the BD structure or an ISO - the PCH will play both. If you have an A-200 then you still have the same limitation as with an original BD discs (ie BD lite menus on java based BD menus) but the C-200 has a full BD licence so you get exactly the same as you would playing a disc.
 
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Smurfin - do you use DVD shrink on no video compression and then let the PCH play the VOB's? or do you re-encode in another fomat? or allow DVD shrink to compress the video?

I've strated ripping my DVDs the first way but the files are big (although I've got the space for this) - I just don't want to rip at lower quality and then have to do them again in a few years.
I use DVD Shrink and rip them to .ISO files which the popcorn hour can play fine.

I tried handbrake but couldn't live with the compression artefacts which are visible on some encodes (particularly dark scenes on discs). That said, my 10.7TB server capacity is down to 100GB left, so I can see me revisiting handbrake again
 
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Doing a 1:1 rip will take up a massive amount of space! The problem with AnyHDDVD is that you can't strip things out ie audio, main movie.

So I now use DVDfab and its much better. I can dump the stuff that I don't want so a film can go from 45gb down to 20gb!
 
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So DVDFab will keep the chapter structure as well as the lossless audio/video?
Will it keep the menu too, even though most of the options won't be available?

As for using AnyDVD HD, what I've done so far is right-click on the icon, select "copy disc to hard drive", and then click "copy dvd". This creates a folder with the name of the film eg. Tropic Thunder, and within this two other folders, Certificates and BWDM (I think, working from memory). Inside BWDM, there are a number of folders, one of which is Stream, and in this are a series of .m2ts files, the biggest of which is the movie itself.
I can right-click on the Tropic Thunder folder, and select "open with VLC player". This will start the movie at the menu, so I'm assuming that I'm doing things right?

What I'd like to know though is if there any way of checking the audio/video information of the ripped files? Some way to know that it's actually ripped at 1080/24p with lossless audio.

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Anydvd will rip the disc perfectly so therefore you will not loose anything. If you convert your rip into an iso you can mount it and then use Mediainfo to tell you details like video/audio. If you don't want the Extras then you won't need the menu structures.

Dvdfab automatically keeps the chapters and 24p. It allows you to select which hd audio/subtitles you want and it will convert it all into a blu ray iso. I don't use menus.
 
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Dvdfab automatically keeps the chapters and 24p. It allows you to select which hd audio/subtitles you want and it will convert it all into a blu ray iso. I don't use menus.
And most/all media players can deal with Bluray isos without messing up playback/audio?

(Sorry for all the questions like!)
 
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And most/all media players can deal with Bluray isos without messing up playback/audio?

(Sorry for all the questions like!)
As far as I'm aware the ONLY media players that can playback Blu-ray Iso files and keep lossless audio output (bitstream on HDMI only) are the Popcorn Hour C-200 and the HDI Dune 3.0.

Lossless audio output should also be added to the Popcorn Hour A-200 in a future major firmware update.
 
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The A200 had lossless audio output (all formats).
 
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The A200 had lossless audio output (all formats).
The hardware supports lossless audio output but the current firmware doesn't.

It's been promised in the next major firmware update but it may well take a month or two to show up.
 
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The hardware supports lossless audio output but the current firmware doesn't.

It's been promised in the next major firmware update but it may well take a month or two to show up.
No. Wrong. My Popcorn A200 outputs all hd audio formats to my amp to decode.
 
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Smurfin

In your ToNMT Preference screenshot, I see the bottom section displaying eac3To Home and tsMuxer Home. Do we also need those 2 programs?

I currently use ClownBD inconjunction with eac3To and tsMuxer.

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Smurfin

In your ToNMT Preference screenshot, I see the bottom section displaying eac3To Home and tsMuxer Home. Do we also need those 2 programs?

I currently use ClownBD inconjunction with eac3To and tsMuxer.

Rgds
Yes, but the ToNMT download includes eac3to and tsmuxer - it won't work without these, a bit like ClownBD.

ClownBD does the same as ToNMT in this regard and if you're using this, ToNMT doesn't offer anything that ClownBD can't do (I just prefer ToNMT as it's all a bit more instant).

Are you using ClownBD to output .ts/.m2ts files?
 
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Are you using ClownBD to output .ts/.m2ts files?
Yes, I am using ClownBD to output .ts files. So you recond I should just stick to ClownBD?

I just thought toNMT is a more straightforward. I don't know though if toNMT can keep both the HD audio and the DD/DTS in the same file.

I've got an older a/v with no hdmi so now when I use my eGreat M34 to stream files or play BR disk, my a/v only plays DD or DTS depending on what core is in the BR.

I will upgrade my a/v but don't know when so when I rip my BRs, I'd like to have both HD/SD audio so I do not have to re-rip when I eventually get a new a/v.

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Quick question - what would be the best Blu-Ray drive to buy? My PC is this Acer M421G Quad Core Windows 7 PC P1.SCM7Z.MPZ - Acer Direct but downgraded to XP Pro.

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I see no one replied to deckingman question. Anyone have any recommendations now for external bluray drives?
 
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Apart from AnyDVDHD and DVDFab is there any other subscription software for ripping blu-rays. I want to do a 1 to 1 copy of the main movie and audio.

It will be played on PCH C200.

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I see no one replied to deckingman question. Anyone have any recommendations now for external bluray drives?
LG CH10LS20 10x Internal SATA Blu-ray Combo Retail Drive - Computing at Play.com (UK)

I use this via esata and I get about 32 MB/s.
 
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Apart from AnyDVDHD and DVDFab is there any other subscription software for ripping blu-rays. I want to do a 1 to 1 copy of the main movie and audio.

It will be played on PCH C200.

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I think DVDfab is the best. Its extremely easy to use and its very much a one click application.
 
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Thanks, I will experiment with DVDFab over the weekend.
 
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Hi,

Smurfin - Great job (as alwauys) on the advice front, really helpful.

I have just purchased my NAS (DS1010+) and it is a great bit of kit but now want to get on with backing up my entire collection for streaming on PCH-a110 using YAMJ.

Read through this thread and want to make sure I have understood everything correctly (plus ask a few questions)?

I already use ANYDVD/HD to rip my DVDs and this works great.

However I have decided I want to keep the video/audio untouched and just have the movie & english subtitles (in case subutitles are not hard coded) - i.e, no menu's, extras, etc.

For this I just need to use DVDShrink is that all?
Is it the best one to use?

By this I mean - I thought DVDshrink reduced the size of DVD by altering the quality of video/audio output?

Judging by what I have read and understood the above is wrong and DVDshrink shrinks the size by removing unnecessary menus, extras, etc without losing video/audio quality?

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I also now want to build up my Blu-Ray collection (all movie/boxsets have been on hold as space for collection - although not that big - has been an issue!) and my understanding is:

AnyDVD/HD rips blu-ray.

ToNMT allows me to remove menus, extras, etc without loss of video/audio quality?

ToNMT uses eac3to/tsmuxer to carry out above?

If I opted to use ClownBD it does the same as ToNMT?
However I have to download eac3to/tsmuxer seperately?

Cheers again

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Related to ripping videos, a desperate last try to sole my problem with a PCH A200.

Briefly - all my rips of VC-1 encoded video have the audio laging the video. In the case of HD DVDs ripped with toNMT it lags by upto 10 (yes 10) seconds. VC-1 files ripped from blurays or into a Bluray structure using Clown BD, the lag is down to a couple of seconds. But no matter what I use to rip - and I've tried them all - the result is the same.

I've been all over the MPCClub forums, the NMT forums, with no luck, and its also got the PCH support boys stumped.

The files play fine on a Mede8er and a Iobox100 HD, and a sample file i sent to PCH support played OK on their A200.

Has anybody else had this problem? Could it be a fault with my particular box?

Any help would be much appreciated.
 
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Related to ripping videos, a desperate last try to sole my problem with a PCH A200.

Briefly - all my rips of VC-1 encoded video have the audio laging the video. In the case of HD DVDs ripped with toNMT it lags by upto 10 (yes 10) seconds. VC-1 files ripped from blurays or into a Bluray structure using Clown BD, the lag is down to a couple of seconds. But no matter what I use to rip - and I've tried them all - the result is the same.

I've been all over the MPCClub forums, the NMT forums, with no luck, and its also got the PCH support boys stumped.

The files play fine on a Mede8er and a Iobox100 HD, and a sample file i sent to PCH support played OK on their A200.

Has anybody else had this problem? Could it be a fault with my particular box?

Any help would be much appreciated.
Phil,

Ever thought of trying to play the rips through a different outlet. Instead of using PCH play them on your laptop and see if you get the same problem?

Put copy on DVD and play through player.....

Actually just read your post again and seen that the files you have are working elsewhere....

I am going with it is a problem with your PCH. But one last question/suggestion - are you streaming this file over your network or via a drive in the PCH? If it is an internal drive then I would say return the PCH. If it is a network drive then could it be network lag?

A part from the above I have nothing.... Nothing.... Absolutely Nothing!!!!!!
 
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