Hull City going down...

Decadence · 12-05-2009, 1:03 PM

...please can I have sympathy from everyone. Don't be mean. The greatest collapse in Premier League history is punishment enough.

Thanks and well done to the teams who stayed up, especially Stoke (god damn it that hurts).

Naaktgeboren · 12-05-2009, 1:13 PM

Was it Hull that had the unexpected super start to the premier league??

Where did it all go wrong?

AgentCool · 12-05-2009, 1:17 PM

Don't lose faith just yet; a bit of effort and luck against Bolton on Saturday and we'll be right back in there. I can't see Newcastle beating Fulham or Villa so a win or maybe even a draw could well be sufficient. Fingers crossed!

**Iccz** · 12-05-2009, 1:19 PM

As above, I feel you've got a chance of clinging on here, Newcastle are going to struggle in the last 2 games and I think you've got more chance against Bolton than they have in both their games, don't really want to see either team go down but that's how it goes sometimes, best of luck to you guys though!

FZR400RRSP · 12-05-2009, 1:28 PM

I want Hull to stay up, I want Newcastle to go down.
I like Hull, because you (used to?) have Dean Windass.
An Aberdeen legend.

DEANO!
DEANO!
DEANO!

domtheone · 12-05-2009, 1:29 PM

As a neutral i'd have preferred it if Newcastle went down

As it is, it looks very much like they escaped.

I doubt that Hull could beat Colchester United let alone Man United at the moment.

Almost a racing certainty that Hull will go down now as I see them losing both of their final games.

Even if Newcastle lose their last 2 games (possible) this still isn't enough to save Hull.

Looking at the remaining 2 fixtures left, I think the bottom 3 is now decided and would say it's at least a 20-1 shot that just one of Hull, WBA or Boro will survive.

Final predictions

WBA - 32 pts - 20th
Boro - 32 pts - 19th
Hull - 34 pts - 18th

Decadence · 12-05-2009, 1:36 PM

I think the writing is on the wall which is why I made the post 2 weeks (maybe 1 week) early. No way in the world we will get any points from our last two games with players such as Geovanni, who should be one of the main people in the team, saying they want to leave already.

**Iccz** · 12-05-2009, 1:42 PM

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Originally Posted by domtheone

Looking at the remaining 2 fixtures left, I think the bottom 3 is now decided and would say it's at least a 20-1 shot that just one of Hull, WBA or Boro will survive.

Final predictions

WBA - 32 pts - 20th
Boro - 32 pts - 19th
Hull - 34 pts - 18th

Are you taking any bets at those odds mate?

FZR400RRSP · 12-05-2009, 1:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Decadence

I think the writing is on the wall which is why I made the post 2 weeks (maybe 1 week) early. No way in the world we will get any points from our last two games with players such as Geovanni, who should be one of the main people in the team, saying they want to leave already.

Things may work in your favour.
Assuming Man Utd can win the title before they play you, they may well treat the game against you as a pain in the ass, choosing to rest senior players for the CL final.

So there's maybe a good chance of you getting something off them.

FZR400RRSP · 12-05-2009, 1:58 PM

As an aside, with you mentioning Geovanni wanting to leave already.
I had to laugh at the Setanta commentators saying how relaxed the Newcastle and 'brough players looked, prior to the game.
Why do you (the commentator) think they looked relaxed, you fool?
Because relegation means nothing to them.
They know they'll be sold or they can slap a transfer in.
They couldn't give a flying ****.
Maybe Downing, who's a 'brough fan.
But you can bet your ass he'll still leave, if they go down.
With some lip-service to "the club getting good money when they need it"
If they really cared, they'd honour their contract and stay.
Not many do that.
I remember Alan Amith saying he'd do it for Leeds, that didn't last long either.

Decadence · 12-05-2009, 2:07 PM

The ony person in our squad which that might apply to would be Michael Turner (Bullard has already said he would stay, probably because he wouldn't get a better deal) but to be fair if we do go down I want him to do well at a bigger club and go on to play for England, he deserves it.

FZR400RRSP · 12-05-2009, 2:10 PM

I think Bullard would easily get a premiership deal.
Any one of the promoted clubs would want him, for a start.

Decadence · 12-05-2009, 2:12 PM

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Originally Posted by bowfer

I think Bullard would easily get a premiership deal.
Any one of the promoted clubs would want him, for a start.

Not for £5 million and £50k a week they wouldn't, with his dodgy knee!

FZR400RRSP · 12-05-2009, 2:18 PM

I've lost track of Bullard, really.
He said he'd take a paycut to stay at Fulham, didn't he?
He then, evidently, went to Hull.
£50k a week?
Really?
At Hull?
Christ, that must have been your entire starting 11 salaries combined, in the championship.

Decadence · 12-05-2009, 2:24 PM

Just about...the club reckon it's £45k a week but insiders say it's nearer £50k so That's who I'll believe! It will not be pleasant for us in the Championship having to pay that for another 4 years!

Dony · 12-05-2009, 2:32 PM

I'm amazed that your chairman has stuck by your Tango manager

.........ever since he attempted to embarrass the players by keeping them on the pitch at half time they have gotten progressively worse.

I'll never forgive him if you go down and Newcastle stay up.

(BTW, I want you to stay up as Hull were the only team I've ever had a trial for)

FZR400RRSP · 12-05-2009, 2:40 PM

I feel Brown's days are numbered.
They go down, they'll get rid.
They stay up, they'll thank him but say they need to 'move on'.
I also think his on-pitch bollocking was a major error.

Incidentally, what's the score with Deano?
Last I read he said he wanted a coaching role at Hull.
I could tell you some stories about him in Aberdeen, not half.
What a boy...

Eddy. · 12-05-2009, 2:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Decadence

...please can I have sympathy from everyone. Don't be mean. The greatest collapse in Premier League history is punishment enough.

Thanks and well done to the teams who stayed up, especially Stoke (god damn it that hurts).

I call it karma as a result of your cretin of a manager and his associates telling lies about Fabregas.

Good riddance.

Dony · 12-05-2009, 2:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Eddy.

I call it karma as a result of your cretin of a manager and his associates telling lies about Fabregas.

Good riddance.

Has that been proven yet?

Decadence · 12-05-2009, 2:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Eddy.

I call it karma as a result of your cretin of a manager and his associates telling lies about Fabregas.

Good riddance.

Leave it out please. I don't want to get into that crap.

Decadence · 12-05-2009, 2:59 PM

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Originally Posted by bowfer

Incidentally, what's the score with Deano?
Last I read he said he wanted a coaching role at Hull.
I could tell you some stories about him in Aberdeen, not half.
What a boy...

He was playing for the reserves but a couple of weeks ago Brown banned him for the rest of the season from going anywhere near the club or players so he is training at home.

I think Brown felt he was disruptive since they fell out after the on-pitch team talk at Man City.

FZR400RRSP · 12-05-2009, 3:03 PM

Hmm, doesn't surprise me that Deano 'spoke his mind'.
This is a bloke that got red-carded three time in one game, for Aberdeen.
Red carded off the pitch.
Then ripped out the corner flag, so another one for that.
Then kicked off in the tunnel and got red carded for that!
You ever met him?
We've been in his (drunk) company a few times.
He's all over you when he's drunk.
Loves a hug!

Decadence · 12-05-2009, 3:10 PM

He signed an autograph for my son at a charity do recently...with it being a charity thing we were a bit scared to ask as he was not expecting to be pestered but he was great. I hope he can work at the club after they hopefully get rid of Brown at the end of the season.

Believe it or not I made sure "Dean Windass" were some of the first words my boy could say.

FZR400RRSP · 12-05-2009, 3:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Decadence

Believe it or not I made sure "Dean Windass" were some of the first words my boy could say.

haha!
That's quality.

Decadence · 12-05-2009, 3:45 PM

He's only two but he can name the entire team...but for some reason whenever he is asked who the manager of HUll City is he thinks it's really funny to say "Arsene Wenger"...grr. When I say "no it's Phil Brown" he replies with "No, it's Phil Orange"...I can't argue with that.

Abbeygoo · 12-05-2009, 3:56 PM

Hope Hull get out of it.

I was at City when Brown came onto the pitch at half time and I thought it would act as a real kick in the pants motivation wise but seems it had the opposite effect.

I think you can get a result at Bolton and hope that United are concentrating on the Champions League final the Wednesday after you smash them on the Sunday.

Decadence · 12-05-2009, 3:58 PM

I think we're so far past being motivated to do anything other than get relegated to be honest...there is no fight left. I hope I am proved wrong but even Michael Turner, the greatest player currently on our pitch, looked utterly defeated on Saturday when the 2nd Stoke goal went in.

FZR400RRSP · 12-05-2009, 4:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Abbeygoo

I was at City when Brown came onto the pitch at half time and I thought it would act as a real kick in the pants motivation wise but seems it had the opposite effect.

20+ years ago, I got a bollocking from a boss in front of customers.
He evidently thought it was the correct thing to do.
It wasn't.

I lost all respect for him that day.
A bollocking should be kept private.

Progeni · 12-05-2009, 4:11 PM

If we go down (which we prolly will) I still think it's been a successful season. Yes its back to the Championship but hell last year who was expecting promotion...not I. Also I remember standing in the cold and rain playing the likes of York for the right to stay in the Football League not that long ago so this seasons been like one big trip.

I think Brownie has done the Tigers wonder BUT, I think has has dissapeared a bit up his own backside this season with his huge designer scarfs and apperances on Question of Sport. See how he spend over the summer, if he can put together a strong young team then maybe in a year or two we can give it another go this time for keeps.

Enjoyed the season regardless of the end outcome, highlight of which was visiting Asrenal, what a fantastic stadium and what an amazinf result....pity I could only get tickets in the home end.......

Decadence · 12-05-2009, 4:19 PM

Yeah, Arsenal was great, taking Man U to 4 - 3 at home when they thought they were home and dry was also a fantastic afternoon!