Floyd Mayweather Junior V'S Manny Pacquiao

[danuk]

Who wins? and why?
Lets talk about this superfight?

[ukdan]

Personally i think manny will win. Why? He has a the great ability to change his tactics, and his trainer is very talented in providing these tactics. A great combination.

[wiser1]

first lets see mayweather marquez
than we'll decide who wins
but i think its a toughie but mayweather

[Iccz]

I think it depends what weight they fight at, I think it'll be a close fight, i'd call Manny at 140 and Mayweather at 147, but it'll be an interesting one, Mayweather hardly gets hit by boxers that are known for hitting their targets.

Pac has proven he's a tough fighter in style but the Hatton fight wasn't a good one to go on to base a Mayweather - Pac fight on.

[freemanrockin]

I personally think Manny is a better fighter and stronger at this moment than Floyd Mayweather, reading through their ring history the Pretty Boy has actually been defeated six times (amateur) in his whole boxing career as opposed to to Manny's three, making him clearly not UNDEFEATED AS HE CLAIMS. I hawked thru his quality opposition and they have probably even on this. But Mayweather has a reputation of dodging some opponents unlike Manny who takes on all takers out there. Mayweather was forced to unretire because his self proclaimed greatness doesnt have much gleam anymore once Manny had claim to the Pound for Pound King. His was just the boxing arena kind of greatness, but Manny was much more beyond the sport itself, something Mayweather had never come close to doing because of his own brashness. When all is said and done I think Floyd will go down on his knees if he were brave enough to enter a fight with Pacquiao. I also do not think the fight might ever happen because he is a Gayweather, and Marquez might score an upset over him. those two are in for a boring fight.

[mabo]

Originally Posted by freemanrockin

I personally think Manny is a better fighter and stronger at this moment than Floyd Mayweather, reading through their ring history the Pretty Boy has actually been defeated six times (amateur) in his whole boxing career as opposed to to Manny's three, making him clearly not UNDEFEATED AS HE CLAIMS. I hawked thru his quality opposition and they have probably even on this. But Mayweather has a reputation of dodging some opponents unlike Manny who takes on all takers out there. Mayweather was forced to unretire because his self proclaimed greatness doesnt have much gleam anymore once Manny had claim to the Pound for Pound King. His was just the boxing arena kind of greatness, but Manny was much more beyond the sport itself, something Mayweather had never come close to doing because of his own brashness. When all is said and done I think Floyd will go down on his knees if he were brave enough to enter a fight with Pacquiao. I also do not think the fight might ever happen because he is a Gayweather, and Marquez might score an upset over him. those two are in for a boring fight.

You bothered to edit your post for typing errors in order to appear more coherent, yet left in a jibe calling Mayweather "Gayweather"?

Oh and few count amateur records as they are while a fighter is still developing and can range from all sorts of ages. IIRC, if you add on Pac's reported amateur losses then he's lost about another four.

[wiser1]

Damn thats harsh Mayweather vs Marquez a boring fight have you gone loopy?
and as for mayweather and pacman i think mayweather will take him it will be close for damn sure, but before that fight id like to see cotto vs pacquio
and calling mayweather gayweather your a joke mate

[Mr Jason B]

Originally Posted by wiser1

before that fight id like to see cotto vs pacquio

Cotto should destroy Pac man, BUT if Pac managed to beat Cotto and Mayweather I think that would make him the greatest fighter in the last 20 years, his resume will speak for itself, a genuine hit list of greats and HOF's.

[xxx_ibzy_xxx]

I reckon mayweather will do it and he will take the fight till the end, but as above will see after the marquez fight.

[Harj]

Originally Posted by freemanrockin

I personally think Manny is a better fighter and stronger at this moment than Floyd Mayweather, reading through their ring history the Pretty Boy has actually been defeated six times (amateur) in his whole boxing career as opposed to to Manny's three, making him clearly not UNDEFEATED AS HE CLAIMS. I hawked thru his quality opposition and they have probably even on this. But Mayweather has a reputation of dodging some opponents unlike Manny who takes on all takers out there. Mayweather was forced to unretire because his self proclaimed greatness doesnt have much gleam anymore once Manny had claim to the Pound for Pound King. His was just the boxing arena kind of greatness, but Manny was much more beyond the sport itself, something Mayweather had never come close to doing because of his own brashness. When all is said and done I think Floyd will go down on his knees if he were brave enough to enter a fight with Pacquiao. I also do not think the fight might ever happen because he is a Gayweather, and Marquez might score an upset over him. those two are in for a boring fight.

What an unbelievable nonsense post. To say Mayweather has ducked opponenets is nonosense, have you seen his record? And as for saying marquez V Mayweather boring, have you ever seen these two fights, both are technically brilliant, it's a purists fight, probabaly will pass you by.

Mayweather to beat JMM, and Mayweather to then beat Manny, simply because he has the best defence in the world and will counter with quick short punches.

[Iccz]

Originally Posted by mabo

You bothered to edit your post for typing errors in order to appear more coherent, yet left in a jibe calling Mayweather "Gayweather"?

Oh and few count amateur records as they are while a fighter is still developing and can range from all sorts of ages. IIRC, if you add on Pac's reported amateur losses then he's lost about another four.

You think that's bad? You should see some of the people on the BoxingScene forums...

And nobody counts Amateur records, it's a different game to professional boxing really.
Either way I didn't bother reading the chaps post, I got half way through and gave up with it. But from what you said about it, pretty much confirms it's not worth reading

Originally Posted by Mr Jason B

Cotto should destroy Pac man, BUT if Pac managed to beat Cotto and Mayweather I think that would make him the greatest fighter in the last 20 years, his resume will speak for itself, a genuine hit list of greats and HOF's.

Beating Cotto and Mayweather makes him the greatest in the last 20 years?

What about: Evander Holyfield, Roy Jones Jnr, Oscar DLH, Bernard Hopkins, Joe Calzaghe, Mike Tyson, Julio Cesar Chavez

Mayweather is one of the greatest in recent years but it would prove himself if he could beat Pacman, Pac still has quite a few fights left in him and will surely prove himself to be a modern day great, but I think in the last 20 years there have been a lot of other top quality boxers.

[Mr Jason B]

Originally Posted by Iccz

Beating Cotto and Mayweather makes him the greatest in the last 20 years?

What about: Evander Holyfield, Roy Jones Jnr, Oscar DLH, Bernard Hopkins, Joe Calzaghe, Mike Tyson, Julio Cesar Chavez

Yup, if he beats those 2 as well as all the fighters he has already beaten, at least one of the greatest.

Look at the people he has beaten - JMM,Barerra, Morrales,Hatton,Delahoya - add Mayweather and Cotto to that list and he has beaten all the stand out fighters of his generation. I rate all the fighters you listed above but with the exception of Chavez, Holfield and Tyson(whos best work was done over 20 years ago IMO), they all either fell short when stepping up to fight the elite (delahoya) or just chose the easy route rather than fighting the best fighters available at the time.

I agree that Mayweather is an amazing talent, but I am afraid he has picked his oppponents carefully so far and although he did fight some decent fighters at the lower weights such as Coralles and Castillo, he has selected the easy route to the titles at different weights, side stepping people who may be a bit too challenging.

Pac is a breath of fresh air TBH.

[seekdeliver]

ill hold my hand up and gave pacman no chance in the last two fights but if he does fight mayweather, i reckon this is the fight he will loose. Flloyd is too fast at dodging punches and will counter him. Will be a classic though for sure, more than 2 rounds!!

[Spligsey]

Originally Posted by Mr Jason B

I agree that Mayweather is an amazing talent, but I am afraid he has picked his oppponents carefully so far and although he did fight some decent fighters at the lower weights such as Coralles and Castillo, he has selected the easy route to the titles at different weights, side stepping people who may be a bit too challenging.
Pac is a breath of fresh air TBH.

I agree with that mate.
Watching his "comeback" press conference told you all you need to know (if you didn't already) about Mayweather.
I thought De La Hoya narrowly beat him too.

Some interesting months ahead.

[Iccz]

Originally Posted by Mr Jason B

Yup, if he beats those 2 as well as all the fighters he has already beaten, at least one of the greatest.

Look at the people he has beaten - JMM,Barerra, Morrales,Hatton,Delahoya - add Mayweather and Cotto to that list and he has beaten all the stand out fighters of his generation. I rate all the fighters you listed above but with the exception of Chavez, Holfield and Tyson(whos best work was done over 20 years ago IMO), they all either fell short when stepping up to fight the elite (delahoya) or just chose the easy route rather than fighting the best fighters available at the time.

I agree that Mayweather is an amazing talent, but I am afraid he has picked his oppponents carefully so far and although he did fight some decent fighters at the lower weights such as Coralles and Castillo, he has selected the easy route to the titles at different weights, side stepping people who may be a bit too challenging.

Pac is a breath of fresh air TBH.

Agree with all your points, though Chavez Hollyfield and Tyson were still good fighers and were still going in those years but yeah not at their prime.

Mayweather has been a strange one he's fought fighters that are nothing special and because of who he is everyone makes him out to be better than his record, I think I posted on the other thread about his last 4 fights, the fighters he beat in them other people who are ranked lower than him have beat quicker, and Pac beat 2 of them a lot quicker.

Pac will fight anyone and I love that in a fighter, I agree he's definitely one of the modern day greats, just not the greatest, I think picking names like Hatton, DLH etc don't prove much as a fighter, but his fights in performance and his achievements certainly do.

I'm also a huge Cotto fan and am eager to see which fights he gets, he's been avoided a lot until recently and was given a defeat which should never have happened, but i'm sure he can bounce back from that. Would certainly love to see him up against Pac and or Mayweather.