Ferguson and McGregor banned for life

Miyazaki · 03-04-2009, 4:58 PM

BBC SPORT | Football | Internationals | Scots ban Rangers pair for life

I'm assuming everyone knows about this.

Call me a bit naive or whatever, but does the "gesture" they made consistute anything other than what we all know the "v-sign" stands for, ie about as rude as the middle finger sign?

It seems a rather excessive punishment if not?

**Steven** · 03-04-2009, 5:05 PM

Petulant, stupid and disrespectful to the manager, team-mates and the fans

Steve N · 03-04-2009, 5:08 PM

About time someone took a firm line with these prima donnas.
Well done says I

ash · 03-04-2009, 7:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Miyazaki

Call me a bit naive or whatever, but does the "gesture" they made consistute anything other than what we all know the "v-sign" stands for, ie about as rude as the middle finger sign?

Ditto

gosties · 03-04-2009, 8:25 PM

I believe that both players have been incredibly stupid in their actions. I view the finger gestures as worse than the drinking, due to the fact both were warned of their future conduct by both the Scotland and Rangers setups after the Sunday Morning debacle.

The word out of Glasgow is that both players probably have played their last games for the Glasgow club. Their punishment for the finger gesture by Rangers was a two-week suspension and fine. In my opinion Rangers will not get the full transfer value for both players as they will be seen as damaged goods by other clubs.

The actual handling by the Scottish FA and Manager has been a joke. After the events of Sunday they both should have jettisoned from the squad for a period at the discretion of the manager. Although some reports have described that their would have been a player mutiny if the manager had dealt with the situation properly at the start.

I have never taken to Burley and get the impression that he does not have the respect of a good quota of the Scotland squad.

blackrod · 03-04-2009, 9:10 PM

A rumor I heard was they got back to the hotel from playing in Holland at 3am and they hit the bar... still there at noon Sunday. If that is the case, they should never have even been in the squad for the next game IMO.

gosties · 03-04-2009, 9:23 PM

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A rumor I heard was they got back to the hotel from playing in Holland at 3am and they hit the bar... still there at noon Sunday. If that is the case, they should never have even been in the squad for the next game IMO.

That rumour about 3am to 12.30pm drinking sessions is supposedly allegedly true. Although allegedly other players were involved in their session for a slightly shorter period. I still believe that Ferguson and McGregor should have been sent home from the point that their session was rumbled.

booyaka · 03-04-2009, 9:52 PM

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Petulant, stupid and disrespectful to the manager, team-mates and the fans

agree completely. The drinking issue would have die down but the middle finger and "v" signs - that is just plain stupid. It wasn't even stuble - they were doing it for about 10 mins.

Both a couple of idiots for what happened and should know better as "role" models for many kids in Glasgow and beyond.

spudtator · 03-04-2009, 10:06 PM

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Petulant, stupid and disrespectful to the manager, team-mates and the fans

Couldn't agree more. Childish in the extreme.
As a Scotland fan, I'm glad Ferguson is out. He's one of the most negative midfielders we've ever had. We play much more positive without him.
But, as a Celtic fan, I'd want him to stay for the same reasons. Rangers started the season much better without him.
McGregor is a big loss for them though, as he is a quality keeper.

Still, as you said, no respect and a sad day for Scottish football.

**Kieron** · 03-04-2009, 11:13 PM

A better punishment would have been to make them play for Scotland!

ash · 03-04-2009, 11:30 PM

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A better punishment would have been to make them play for Scotland!

spudtator · 04-04-2009, 9:00 AM

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A better punishment would have been to make them play for Scotland!

*flicks Kieron and ash v-sign*

Steve N · 08-04-2009, 9:34 AM

Wasn't there a player a few years back who said he would never play for Scotland.

I thought his name was Ferguson but may be wrong.
It was something to do with a falling out with the Manager or something.

Anyone enlighten me ?

gosties · 08-04-2009, 9:48 AM

It would have been Duncan Ferguson you are thinking of.

He was jailed for assault, but it was due to combined previous offences that the minor incident in the Raith Rovers game had accumulated to. He had been warned by a judge previously that any further offence would lead to a jail sentence.

His retirement from the Scottish Football team was due to his belief that the jail sentence was punishment enogh for his actions on the field. He was subsequently banned for 12 games from his release so felt he was being doubly punished for the offence.

I don't believe that you should be punished both in the courts and through the League for the same offence.

Steve N · 08-04-2009, 9:54 AM

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It would have been Duncan Ferguson you are thinking of...........

Thanks for that.
I do remember now that it was Duncan Ferguson but was always curious as to why

Abbeygoo · 09-04-2009, 1:38 PM

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A better punishment would have been to make them play for Scotland!

"You are hereby sentenced to a life of avoiding major tournaments"

Rorifett · 09-04-2009, 4:02 PM

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"You are hereby sentenced to a life of avoiding major tournaments"

"But at least you're safe in the knowledge that the last game down in their old hunting ground was a 1-0 away win!"

Abbeygoo · 09-04-2009, 4:06 PM

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"But at least you're safe in the knowledge that the last game down in their old hunting ground was a 1-0 away win!"

straw
clutch

what about the last game in your ground? 2-0?

and old hunting ground .... don't make me laugh.

ed_mcl · 09-04-2009, 4:10 PM

Oh dear, it looks like Abbeygoo can give but can't take.

Abbeygoo · 09-04-2009, 4:35 PM

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Oh dear, it looks like Abbeygoo can give but can't take.

i'm fine, keep the banter coming .....

deantown · 10-04-2009, 7:23 PM

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"You are hereby sentenced to a life of avoiding major tournaments"

how can a man city fan have a laugh at any football team. Or are you trying to divert yourself away from your own teams abysmal season.

la gran siete · 10-04-2009, 9:17 PM

fuss about nothing

Abbeygoo · 11-04-2009, 12:51 AM

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how can a man city fan have a laugh at any football team. Or are you trying to divert yourself away from your own teams abysmal season.

yep we've had an abysmal season ..... mind you, coming from Watford, you must support United eh? You glory hunting ****

ed_mcl · 11-04-2009, 1:54 AM

Oh, he's spat his dummy out again.

Abbeygoo · 11-04-2009, 8:23 AM

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Oh, he's spat his dummy out again.

That's not spitting my dummy out!

Back on topic, does anyone think this was a little over the top for what amounted to a bit of a childish prank?

neilios · 11-04-2009, 10:19 AM

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That's not spitting my dummy out!

Back on topic, does anyone think this was a little over the top for what amounted to a bit of a childish prank?

Is this story real lol,2 fingers, a few pots and banned for life ,lol and the condemnatory replies on here are fantastic ,role models for scottish kids ,its a game of football ***.

Dony · 11-04-2009, 11:05 AM

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Is this story real lol,2 fingers, a few pots and banned for life ,lol and the condemnatory replies on here are fantastic ,role models for scottish kids ,its a game of football ***.

Agree with it or not, but the ex Rangers and Scotland captain IS a role model to many kids in Scotland (and N. Ireland).

Whether or not the punishment fits the crime, Ferguson has had plenty of previous, so personally, I think it's great the authorities have come down hard on him,.......although my judgement is clouded by my personal dislike for him.

deantown · 11-04-2009, 12:32 PM

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yep we've had an abysmal season ..... mind you, coming from Watford, you must support United eh? You glory hunting ****

i know what you mean about all the southern utd fans but honestly i am not one. Believe it or not i would rather follow city than utd.
anyway back to the topic - It is about time the players were pulled-up on their behaviour otherwise this great game is going to go down the tubes. Everyone who is chosen to represent their country should always give it their best shot - whether they are good enough or not . cheers

Steve N · 11-04-2009, 1:44 PM

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...... Ferguson has had plenty of previous,

I think that's the key here.
I think a stand had to be taken at some stage and the gesturing was about the final straw.

neilios · 11-04-2009, 6:18 PM

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I think that's the key here.
I think a stand had to be taken at some stage and the gesturing was about the final straw.

So someone messing about at work should be sacked just in case someone was offended ,i take it non of you lot never step out of line ,or swear or behave inappropriatly.Kids role models should be their parents not public figures trying to get on with there lives .
I'm afraid we'll be waiting along time for the perfect role model to be found amongst public figures they tend to be mirror images of society except they may have more money .

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