[jayden28]

Footballs gone mad.

[DrWise]

that is just plain and utter stupidness too a new level

[Naaktgeboren]

I have to agree 500k wages p/w..... He want's so many clauses written into that contract it's just plain bad business.

Can you imagine, opening premiership game next season, Kaka get's kicked up in the air and is out for 7 month's........

It's not even a dead cert that he will settle in the UK. If he takes a long time to adjust to the English game (like so many have) can City 'afford' to drop him and if they do, can Kaka walk away??

Very worrying transfer if it happens.

[jayden28]

I dont even think his all that to be honest,£35m max,his going for one reason and one reason only "money",c,mon its man city for gods sake,whats happens if they get relagated this season will kaka stay then?you just got a feeling its going to go all tits up for city one day,its man city at the end of the day the 10th biggest club in england.

[DrWise]

straight they sign Kaka for 107.5 million
i think the entire world will stop watching football
that is just utter stupid and 500k a week must be having a bubble
i think city just want too show off the buying power they have nothing else, like chelsea these so-called stars will begin too flop, what happened too breeding homegrown talent

[LostFanBoy]

500k a week is just obscene

[DrWise]

500k id get 10 of the best footballers off avforums and we'd give kaka a run for his money :P
50k each not bad

[IAN P]

Why would he go to city(apart from the obvious),he won't be playing Champions league for years,he might play in the UEFA cup if City are lucky.

Hope he tells em' to go forth and multiply.

Crazy price,may get a few shirt sales though.

[Steven]

He hasn't signed yet. And City are still in a relegation battle

Well I guess that answers the question of how AC were going to replace an ageing side. They already have money to begin with but would now have even more to build a side around Pato if this actually goes ahead

[plazmoid]

TBH i think this will be good for the game overall in europe as it means that teams like AC will be able to compete on the european stage like a few years ago and if City decide to go on a summer spending splash then it could make next year very interesting in the champions league. City still won't be able to challenge in the premier league though as they are still too inconsistent. Their team is as good as anybody else but they lack squad depth. You think that they would be looking to buy defenders rather than another midfielder but, thats football. Nothing Makes Sense Anymore!!

[Steven]

AC slipped into the UEFA Cup this season, but they have always been challenging and will be back in the CL next season

[plazmoid]

I mean that they will be challenging the like of chelsea and man u and may be able to break the hold that the english teams now have on the champions league.

[Steven]

Ahh, gotcha Well don't be too harsh on the 2007 winners But I do agree that this will be like the early Russian years, in that Man City will be funding everybody else's transfers...

And they wondered how much more out of touch top level football could be in the face of these economic times of ours. Well they need not have worried

[plazmoid]

Completely forgot that they won it that recently!! Oops!

[kopchoir]

I actually put him as a player in the zidane calibre i think he is that good and think if zidane can go for 47mil all them years ago then i think he is worth at least that if your talking 32mil for tevez 30 mil for rio ferdinand then kaka yeah is worth at least 50 mil but 107mil thats just plain crazy
half a mil a week can you imagine what hs agents fees would be on that
cant wait for electric cars all round, city may get relegated then

[RMCF]

I agree with many on here saying that this is madness, pure and simple.

You can understand Milan or Kaka himself for considering it. Milan will get over £100million for a 27year old and can rebuild, because they will still attract good players based on their name. Kaka will be rich beyond his wildest dreams, but he probably already is and doesn't need the money (personally I don't think he will move).

I do honestly believe that if the move happens for the monies quoted then a lot of people will become very disillusioned with the game. I have already over the last few years as the money is already crazy, but this takes it to new levels. Sky will love it, but I can see many turning off.

In a world with so much wrong, this is fighting for the No.1 spot.

[Ian J]

I agree with the other comments that the transfer fee is ludicrous and his wage demands immoral in the current economic climate over here. I'm sure that many Manchester City supporters will be pleased to se the club land a world class player but many more of the club's supporters who have been made redundant and can therefore no longer go to the matches or even afford Sky TV may have aslightly different view.

It did bring a smile to my face though when reading the footie news yesterday as it said that City had had yet another offer turned down by West Ham for another player that they wanted. The increased offer of £7m was supposedly not enough. Surely this is just petty cash to City so if they want this player badly enough why not just give the Hammers a blank cheque and let them fill in the amount they want as money is seemingly meaningless to City.

[JohnG]

It will all end in tears as myself and a certain Mr Overkill have been predicting for some time I've already had it with Premiership football due to overpaid, cheating, nancy-boys making a mockery of the once great game.
If I were on the wage he's going to get, I'd only have to work for a few days and then I could retire

[Steven]

Of course. If he does end up going to City and does not settle in England/The Premiership, and/or his form dips (he has not hit the heights of 06/07 because of injury), then do City drop £500k star player or contemplate selling him?!

Originally Posted by Ian J

and his wage demands immoral in the current economic climate over here

I don't think he demanded it as so much a combination of the oil people having more money than sense and being oblivious to the economic realities (even the Russian is belt tightening), and Kaka's agent(s) not discouraging them...

[the.godfather]

What a great deal for Milan this would be though. If it goes through it could answer all of their problems and put them right back up there with Inter again, and they're not that far off now tbh. £100million+ would more than rebuild that squad. Kaka only cost them £6.5million if I remember rightly, so not a bad profit overall.

[hutch]

Milan would be crazy not to accept the offer, if I was the chairman i'd be booting him out of the door!

Ridiculous money, absolutely

[Munkey Boy]

I don't know how anyone actively supporting a top four team can criticise the morality of this, but I fully understand other people's point of view. I've been going to City for 16 years now, and we've been locked out of the top four bracket because we can't afford the transfer fee/wages, therefore can't afford the decent players, therefore can't afford the trophies to attract the big players.

It's been going on for years, and now it seems the nice little clique at the top could be broken up. From the City owners point of view this is absolutely value for money - they are paying to have a team that could challenge for top honours within 2 years. They are buying a brand to represent Abu Dhabi, so it works from a business point of view too.

The idea that anyone would come to City purely for the money is forgetting the fact they would be coming to win something. It's a chicken and egg scenario. City already have one of the best attacks in the league - sort out the defence, and we're onto something.

[gosties]

I find the amount offered by Man City immoral, and the wages offered to Kaka ridiculous. But football has been going down this road for years.

In my opinion a fit Kaka would be sensational in the Premiership, but only if he has players of high calibre around him. Last year Ronaldo was in better form than Kaka but I would argue the previous three seasons Kaka was superior. He is similar to Zidane in that he glides past players effortlessly.

I'm more a fan of Arsenal than the other top three sides but their is a certain amount of hypocrisy from coming from fan's of the big four.

Take Utd as an example:-

Rooney (Around 30 Million with all clauses)
Ronaldo (12.5 Million)
Ferdinand (Around 30 Million)
Carrick (18.5 Million)
Hargreaves (18.5 Million)
Anderson (18 Million)
Berbatov (30 Million plus)
Vidic (12 Million)

This is not including Evra, Tevez and few others.

I could also list some of the Chelsea, Liverpool and Arsenal signings but in my opinion Chelsea and Man Utd have been cheque-book team for years. Man Utd nowadays is vastly different to the Beckham, Neville's Butt, Scholes era.

Although they have produced other youngsters (O'Shea, Fletcher, Brown etc) they are nowhere near the quality of these players. I reckon in the last six years that Man Utd and Chelsea have spent similar amounts on their team's.

Depending on what reports you read the combined debt of the top 4 is around 3 Billion pounds.

What City are doing regarding purchasing talent is what Man Utd have been doing in the English top divisions for a couple of decades. Although the sum's discussed by this Abu Dhabi Utd are immoral, the impact on their finances will be neglible.

I also can't blame Milan for selling, as the player could break his leg next year and never play again.

[mabo]

Originally Posted by Munkey Boy

.... City already have one of the best attacks in the league - sort out the defence, and we're onto something.

...and their idea to sort out the defence is a £100m midfield playmaker.

I understand your point of view, but i think for many this isn't about the big fours dominance being broken as most are only too pleased to see Villa up there. The complaints come from the monopoly nature of the money devaluing the game. I think people don't want to see the game degenrate to the point where a single club could in theory replace a whole squad in January on a whim and not even think about the expense.

I wonder how it'll affect the rest of the squad. How can you have one player earning more in a week than most of the other players ion the starting 11 combined. It hardly helps build team morale.

I thought Mark Hughes was doing the right thing by aiming for established premiership talent and trying to build a steady base. This smacks of a transfer that's being made for him - Kaka is great, but i'm sure if Hughes was given the money he'd spend it building a better defence so relegation wouldn't even be mentioned.

[domtheone]

Originally Posted by wiser1

straight they sign Kaka for 107.5 million
i think the entire world will stop watching football

Sadly I think the opposite will happen.

It is total madness. Stupidity even

Football fans seem incapable of making a stand against the clubs who take the **** out of them by ripping them off with high prices for merchandise and obscene ticket costs.

They seem perfectly happy to see players earning 100K a week while many peeps are priced out of going along to see a game.

[domtheone]

Originally Posted by wiser1

straight they sign Kaka for 107.5 million
i think the entire world will stop watching football

Sadly I think the opposite will happen.

It is total madness. Stupidity even

Football fans seem incapable of making a stand against the clubs who take the **** out of them by ripping them off with high prices for merchandise and obscene ticket costs.

They seem perfectly content to see players earning 100K a week while many peeps are priced out of going along to see a game.

[gosties]

I don't believe that Mark Hughes will be Man City manager next season. If you are working on a project with a supposed budget of 500 million allegedly.

Would you leave IMO a novice manager in control ?

I would not be suprised if they go for Mourinho in the close season. Although in saying that does anyone believe that Manchester would be big enough for Mourinho and Ferguson's ego's.

[mabo]

Originally Posted by domtheone

Sadly I think the opposite will happen.

It is total madness. Stupidity even

Football fans seem incapable of making a stand against the clubs who take the **** out of them by ripping them off with high prices for merchandise and obscene ticket costs.

They seem perfectly content to see players earning 100K a week while many peeps are priced out of going along to see a game.

You can say that again.

[Munkey Boy]

Originally Posted by mabo

...and their idea to sort out the defence is a £100m midfield playmaker.

I understand your point of view, but i think for many this isn't about the big fours dominance being broken as most are only too pleased to see Villa up there. The complaints come from the monopoly nature of the money devaluing the game. I think people don't want to see the game degenrate to the point where a single club could in theory replace a whole squad in January on a whim and not even think about the expense.

I wonder how it'll affect the rest of the squad. How can you have one player earning more in a week than most of the other players ion the starting 11 combined. It hardly helps build team morale.

I thought Mark Hughes was doing the right thing by aiming for established premiership talent and trying to build a steady base. This smacks of a transfer that's being made for him - Kaka is great, but i'm sure if Hughes was given the money he'd spend it building a better defence so relegation wouldn't even be mentioned.

All fair points - but remember this transfer isn't mutually exclusive of other transfers. It's not the case that we're blowing the budget on one player, and forgetting about the defence. It's like building a new shopping centre: you need an anchor store (like M&S) and then other tenants come knocking because they can see the area will attact customers. Kaka = M&S, the team will follow (cross fingers) once he has committed.

As an aside, celebrity culture as a whole is immoral, but we still see fit to pay good money for entertainment, so we fund it. I mean, we buy DVDs don't we? How much did Cruise get paid to do Valkyrie? I find this view about people being priced out of things a bit confusing (I couldn't quite stretch to the 58" Panny - should we have a government grant to guarantee anyone a certain screen size?) in a free market economy - if there wasn't demand, the price would drop.

Besides, I'd be well up for transfer caps/wage caps/maximum amounts of wages for anyone per week (not just footballers), but that's a communist ideal isn't it? (I know I'm being a bit tongue in cheek here )

We do know Beckham is already on £480,000 per week now, right?

[domtheone]

Originally Posted by Munkey Boy

As an aside, celebrity culture as a whole is immoral, but we still see fit to pay good money for entertainment, so we fund it. I mean, we buy DVDs don't we? How much did Cruise get paid to do Valkyrie? I find this mix of view about people being priced out of things a bit confusing (I couldn't quite stretch to the 58" Panny - should we have a government grant to guarantee anyone a certain screen size?) in a free market economy. I'd be well up for transfer caps/wage caps/maximum amounts of wages for anyone per week, but that's a communist ideal isn't it? (I know I'm being a bit tongue in cheek here )

Cruise may get paid £15 Million (that's just a guess as I don't know what he got) but there is a difference.

He makes money for the studio/distributors/shareholders etc etc.

Like Kaka will ever repay his £100M fee lol.

Have you seen how most football clubs are run No wonder one of them go into Administration ever few weeks

How many other business's spend 90% (again just an estimate, some, like Man U are lower than that) of their turnover on wages. Sheer madness.

We need some sort of salary/club wage cap.