Limit on foreign players in team - do you agree?

[RMCF]

I know I do.

I appreciate that it might not stand up to any labour laws but I think it would allow a better spread of talent around the teams in all the leagues.

Lets hope FIFA/UEFA get their way.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...pe/7421348.stm

[thfccambs]

Originally Posted by RMCF

I know I do.

I appreciate that it might not stand up to any labour laws but I think it would allow a better spread of talent around the teams in all the leagues.

Lets hope FIFA/UEFA get their way.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...pe/7421348.stm

Would love to see this come in, but according to freedom to work some stupid European rule it will be an illegal ruling.

About the only ever descent idea Sepp Blatter come up with.

[huwg]

These figures sum it up

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/7417746.stm

[lostinspace]

I'd like to see a maximum of 3 foreign players on the field at any one time. The club could employ as many overseas players as they like, but the rules of the game wuld mean that no more than 3 could be on the field at once.

I'd also like to see only home based players eligible to represent their country in internationals.

[Miyazaki]

Wenger is almost single handedly destroying the English game.

On average 0 players started for him last season.

I think the major problem is foreign managers of English clubs.

Most of the British managers have lots of English players in their teams.

Obviously this is not helped with foreign chairmen in control of English teams either.

I think this all boils down to being $ky's fault and the amount of tv money they pay the clubs which makes them viable targets for takeovers by foreigners, who then appoint foreign managers etc.............

[overkill]

Sounds great. But if it was to happen we would also have to introduce a wage cap. Is that going to happen? I think not.

One of the main reasons we have so few English players in the EPL is because they are too flaming greedy. Why take one of them at £30,000 a week when a young African, or Spaniard come to that, can play just as well or better for £10,000 - £15,000 a week less?

We moan about the lack of English players here, but look how few are playing in the rest of Europe? Why is that? Because they aren't good enough? Or is it because they want more than anyone else?

Or both.

Do we really want the clubs getting even further up the debt alley and/or season ticket prices storming new heights so we can field 8 Englishmen?

Bear in mind I too would love to see a ceiling of between 3 -4 overseas players max in the side on any given Saturday (sorry, Matchday) but it's not going to happen without some restraint being shown by the players.

Or a lot of clubs going bust....................

[thfccambs]

Originally Posted by Games Guru

Wenger is almost single handedly destroying the English game.

Wasn't it Chel$ki who did that? First team to ever field a full foreigner 11 players.

[overkill]

Originally Posted by hunts1uk

Wasn't it Chel$ki who did that? First team to ever field a full foreigner 11 players.

Actually, if you count anyone who isn't English, it was Liverpool in 1986'.

Agree Eddy. I cannot see the point of clubs being forced to play 8 mediocre, overpaid English players just to satisfy the flag wavers. If I really thought, even for a second we might produce a decent English team out of it, I would think twice, but we won't.

What makes me laugh, is that even when we had a minimal number of overseas players in the old First division, England were still dire.

So what's new?

[thfccambs]

Originally Posted by overkill

Actually, if you count anyone who isn't English, it was Liverpool in 1986'.

Well i wasn't but thanks for pointing that out Neil.

"On the 26th December 1999 Chelsea were the first team to field an entirely foreign starting line-up, on the 14th February 2005 Arsenal were the first club to announce a completely foreign 16 man squad for a match.

[Eddy.]

Originally Posted by overkill

Actually, if you count anyone who isn't English, it was Liverpool in 1986'.

Agree Eddy. I cannot see the point of clubs being forced to play 8 mediocre, overpaid English players just to satisfy the flag wavers. If I really thought, even for a second we might produce a decent English team out of it, I would think twice, but we won't.

What makes me laugh, is that even when we had a minimal number of overseas players in the old First division, England were still dire.

So what's new?

Honestly, what was the last good English team you can think of? I honestly don't think we've had a really good team since Euro 96, 12 years ago.

Its not Wenger's fault, its just a massive decline in English talent full stop.

It doesn't help with the media spinning things and putting pressure on new young players that emerge. The hype over Rooney in particular is pretty sickening.

The only genuinely world class player in the England squad nowadays is Stevie Gerrard.

[thfccambs]

Originally Posted by Eddy.

Honestly, what was the last good English team you can think of? I honestly don't think we've had a really good team since Euro 96, 12 years ago.

Its not Wenger's fault, its just a massive decline of English talent full stop.

Disagree with the English talent, just think no one has ever had or been good enought to make the England team into World Beaters. We have some of the best players in the world but we've never of late had a good enough manager to handle them. Each manager thinks playing his best 11 player will win him games, no matter if it means 5 players playing out of position.

I for one don't blame Wenger as he brought some of the best player ever to be seen to the EPL. Still hate the **** though.

The only genuinely world class player in the England squad nowadays is Stevie Gerrard.

Come on im not having that.

[WildeKarde]

The issue with the English players is they cost too much to buy in for most teams. The proverbial 18yr old player seen to be a future star rated at £10m - this means only the biggest clubs can buy them and unless they hit the ground running or get a break into the first team they are likely to be a sub or reserve player for a while.

If clubs were restricted to only spending (transfer fees or better still wages offered) based on their crowds then the potential star players would get into teams willing to use them.

If the English league restricted it to 3 foreign players in a team how many of you would be happy at the reduction in European success. Maybe even no more European trophies or finals. I don't think Europe would follow restriction on players.

How would Man Utd have got on if they could only play three foreign players - who would you choose? What about Chelsea?

Would all the England team play for 4 or 5 clubs only?

[thfccambs]

Originally Posted by WildeKarde

How would Man Utd have got on if they could only play three foreign players - who would you choose?

Wasn't to many years ago that this had a big effect on Man Utd in the European cup, you could only play so many foreigners.

[Eddy.]

Originally Posted by hunts1uk

We have some of the best players in the world but we've never of late had a good enough manager to handle them. Each manager thinks playing his best 11 player will win him games, no matter if it means 5 players playing out of position.

Totally agree on this, I forgot to mention the manager situation. Its been pretty grim for many years now. I for one liked Sven, but think he operated with more of a club team philosophy and never really managed to adapt to the national team situation.

I think Capello can make a difference, but he will need a few years to make things right.

Come on im not having that.

Why not. Its true.

Please don't mention Rooney. People criticized Adebayor for taking too many attempts to score but he has nothing on Rooney who needs about 10 shots at least before he finally scores. Capello hit the nail on the head with his assessment of him....he's a scorer of great goals but not a great goalscorer.

I think Walcott, from what I've seen of him playing for the Goons has great potential but needs a little more time to mature. Micah Richards and Gareth Barry are developing nicely too. Terry is dependable at the back (when he's not playing in the rain....). Beckham needs to retire from international football and give Bentley time to shine.

[Sicknote10]

Originally Posted by overkill

But if it was to happen we would also have to introduce a wage cap. Is that going to happen? I think not.

Most clubs are introducing their own wage cap, based on a percentage of their turnover
They are trying to get it to below 50%, most clubs are close to this, Chelsea are a bit above it but even they are working towards getting it down to this figure