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Old 23-05-2008, 11:00 AM   #1
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Ricky Hatton v Juan Lazcano

How many have ordered this fight then?

I know they show starts at 7:30pm but doe's anyone know when Ricky is due in the ring?

Can't wait for this fight i was gutted when he lost to big mouth Mayweather.
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Old 23-05-2008, 11:10 AM   #2
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Re: Ricky Hatton v Juan Lazcano

Although I've enjoyed the odd bout in the past, I've never felt compelled to order a fight. The current fight scene just doesn't excite me, TBH. But Hatton seems to have picked a tough one for his first bout back after Mayweather ... but then again, he doesn't duck a challenge... and fair play to him for that!
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Re: Ricky Hatton v Juan Lazcano

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Although I've enjoyed the odd bout in the past, I've never felt compelled to order a fight. The current fight scene just doesn't excite me, TBH. But Hatton seems to have picked a tough one for his first bout back after Mayweather ... but then again, he doesn't duck a challenge... and fair play to him for that!
I know me paying to watch a Manc

I really like Hatton such a down to earth guy not playing the big i am! he's the only fighter i'd pay to watch to be honest.

As for ducking a challenge Witter would have us believe hatton has ducked him for years, you ok sure he did.
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Old 23-05-2008, 11:20 AM   #4
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Re: Ricky Hatton v Juan Lazcano

Can't see me paying another £15.00 tbh,he lost to the better boxer last year,unless he has a rematch then no
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Old 23-05-2008, 11:24 AM   #5
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Re: Ricky Hatton v Juan Lazcano

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Can't see me paying another £15.00 tbh,he lost to the better boxer last year,unless he has a rematch then no
Yeah he did lose to the better boxer didn't help that Ricky never stays fit between fights so he was knackered in the later rounds where i think Mayweather stays the way he is all the time?

Not sure i'd like a rematch i think Mayweather has just a little too much for him.
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Old 23-05-2008, 11:26 AM   #6
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Re: Ricky Hatton v Juan Lazcano

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Not sure i'd like a rematch i think Mayweather has just a little too much for him.
I don't know too much about it ... but didn't Hatton go up in weight to fight Mayweather?
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Old 23-05-2008, 11:26 AM   #7
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Re: Ricky Hatton v Juan Lazcano

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I don't know too much about it ... but didn't Hatton go up in weight to fight Mayweather?
Yep he sure did.

So does anyone know what time he fights so i don't get too drunk and passout before i see him fight.
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Re: Ricky Hatton v Juan Lazcano

9pm I think the hatton fight, roughly.

I wont be paying to watch Hatton unless he fights Miguel Cotto anytime soon.


He's over rated and not the most exciting of boxers to watch really.

Plus Lazcano isn't exactly high quality in terms of an opponent.

Who's on the undercard, i've not even seen that yet?


Also Mayweather was in the same weight as Hatton until he went up to fight Sharmba Mitchell then Zab Judah, after that he only had 2 fights at the weight.
Hatton could easily make the weight and stay fit, it's not a problem also he's supposed to be tough enough to stand that division. It should be where he's fighting anyways in my view.

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Old 23-05-2008, 11:36 AM   #9
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Re: Ricky Hatton v Juan Lazcano

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9pm I think the hatton fight, roughly.

I wont be paying to watch Hatton unless he fights Miguel Cotto anytime soon.


He's over rated and not the most exciting of boxers to watch really.

Plus Lazcano isn't exactly high quality in terms of an opponent.

Who's on the undercard, i've not even seen that yet?
Cheers for the time bud.

Now that Cotto looks awesome saw him take Gomez to school i know Gomez aint top class but still, is it right Mayweather won't fight Cotto saying i have nothing left to prove i've beaten all the greats?

Sounds scared to me.

Oh i Know Hattons brother is fighting on the undercard that's all i know though.

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Old 23-05-2008, 11:51 AM   #10
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Re: Ricky Hatton v Juan Lazcano

I saw Cotto fight early on in his career, I told my Dad that he's the next big thing, he's slowly getting there, and the signed glove I have will go up in value hehe :P


Cotto has had the problems from early on of getting a good name fighter to accept a bout.

I can understand Mayweather not wanting it, he's a big money fighter is Mayweather and unless someone is a real big name he wont bother, fear comes into it too I believe. After Cotto - Margarito maybe he'll get more chances should (when) he win.



I just saw Malignaggi and N'dou is the next biggest fight on the Hatton one, not really a promising undercard either.

I wonder if the Craig McEwan fight will be shown, he looks like an interesting middleweight.
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Old 23-05-2008, 7:29 PM   #11
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Re: Ricky Hatton v Juan Lazcano

Will be watching out here, thankfully it isn't a PPV and will be screened free on Combate Space

The fight's down for 22:00 our time(which would be 2am UK time), it does say it'll be Live so that must be the time of the Hatton fight for you lot(unless there's a mistake on the Space website.) Perhaps Space is skipping some or all of the undercard fights.

Should be a good fight I think, doesn't sound to me as though Lazcano will be the pushover a lot of people are predicting(haven't seen any of his previous fights myself so will wait & see).

Hope we'll see a stylish return for Ricky and he doesn't go rushing in to make a show stopper.

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Old 24-05-2008, 8:44 AM   #12
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Re: Ricky Hatton v Juan Lazcano

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Can't see me paying another £15.00 tbh,he lost to the better boxer last year,unless he has a rematch then no

Are you saying that because he lost to possibly the p4p#1 fighter in the world that you wont pay to watch anymore of his fights unless it is a rematch against Mayweather?
Lazcano may not be a top ranked fighter but he is dangerous and not that bad an opponent considering Ricky's last fight was a loss against the best boxer in the world.

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I wont be paying to watch Hatton unless he fights Miguel Cotto anytime soon.
I cannot see Hatton going back up to WW apart from the possible rematch with Mayweather TBH,so you will have a very long wait.

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Also Mayweather was in the same weight as Hatton until he went up to fight Sharmba Mitchell then Zab Judah, after that he only had 2 fights at the weight.
Hatton could easily make the weight and stay fit, it's not a problem also he's supposed to be tough enough to stand that division. It should be where he's fighting anyways in my view.
Hatton is very small even for a light welter,and is not suited to welter weight at all,he should stay in light welter where he belongs.Despite the fact that Mayweather started in a lower division,he has advantages in just about every dept including height and reach,so it really means nothing where he started his career - the fact is that he can adapt to the higher weights far eaiser because he does not suffer form the same disadvantages as Hatton,ie little midget arms and legs!.

Malignaggi is on the undercard purely to build up Hattons next fight which,providing everything goes to plan is probably going to be against Malignaggi to unify the titles.I havent seen much of Malignaggi ,but have heard he does not have much power so will be interesting to see what he is like.

Having said all that,I wont be paying 15 quid for the PPV,I might get it if a few mates come round and chip in,otherwise it will be an internet job.I have no problem with the card in general but it certainly is not worth 15 quid of my hard earned.
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Old 24-05-2008, 8:55 AM   #13
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Re: Ricky Hatton v Juan Lazcano

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Malignaggi is on the undercard purely to build up Hattons next fight which,providing everything goes to plan is probably going to be against Malignaggi to unify the titles.I havent seen much of Malignaggi ,but have heard he does not have much power so will be interesting to see what he is like.
I saw the first 2 rounds on youtube of Malignaggi Vs Cotto and after 20 odd fights he only has 5 ko's so not a big puncher i'd say.

bigger mouth than punch.
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Re: Ricky Hatton v Juan Lazcano

Mayweather being the Lb for Lb #1 is the biggest pharce in boxing around.

What about Calzaghe?
His record is far better in terms of knockouts...
I hate how a lot of places put Mayweather above him, also how they put Hopkins above Pacquaio


Height isn't important for the divisions, take a look at Tyson beng 5ft 10... fighting the likes of Lewis at 6ft 5...


Hatton is naturally a large lad, he's got bulk, and he's always bordered on the weight. Even early on in his career he'd been 139/140, I believe he'd even fought above that weight.

I just think that he's hit his limit and isn't good enough to cut it with someone of as much talent as Mayweather.
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Re: Ricky Hatton v Juan Lazcano

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Mayweather being the Lb for Lb #1 is the biggest pharce in boxing around..
Perhaps you should tell the majority of the boxing world that they dont know what they are talking about....

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What about Calzaghe?
His record is far better in terms of knockouts...
I hate how a lot of places put Mayweather above him, also how they put Hopkins above Pacquaio.
I am a massive Calzaghe fan but I still wouldnt put him above Mayweather in the p4p rankings.Dont get me wrong I dont like Mayweather at all,he fights far too negativley for me but the fact of the matter remains that is has risen through the weight divisions and beaten some world class opposition- importantly he has also done it pretty easily,hardly getting hit never mind hurt.

I also dislike Hopkins as a fighter,I dont think I have seen 1 enjoyable fight of his,he wins ugly every single time

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Height isn't important for the divisions, take a look at Tyson beng 5ft 10... fighting the likes of Lewis at 6ft 5....
You think height and reach are not important?you give Tyson Vs Lewis as an example-you do remember what happended in that fight dont you?

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Hatton is naturally a large lad, he's got bulk, and he's always bordered on the weight. Even early on in his career he'd been 139/140, I believe he'd even fought above that weight.

I just think that he's hit his limit and isn't good enough to cut it with someone of as much talent as Mayweather.
Hatton balloon's in weight between fights but his frame is quite small,and this allows him to be outboxed by the rangier boxers at ww.I was amazed when I saw some stats a couple of weeks ago comparing Hatton and Pacman's physical attributes and Pac was actually the same size as Hatton in nearly every department.
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Re: Ricky Hatton v Juan Lazcano

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/7415140.stm

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Ricky Hatton v Juan Lazcano, IBO light-welterweight title
Date: 24 May Time: From 2130 BST Venue: City of Manchester Stadium
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Remember his brother is also on the card
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Re: Ricky Hatton v Juan Lazcano

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Will be watching out here, thankfully it isn't a PPV and will be screened free on Combate Space

The fight's down for 22:00 our time(which would be 2am UK time).
I was considering getting the PPV but i am not staying up till 2am when the fight is in bloody Manchester!!
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Re: Ricky Hatton v Juan Lazcano

Cheers for the links. I like Hatton but he just ain't the most exciting boxer to watch- not £15 worth anyway. Only upcoming fight i might consider shelling out that kinda money for is Calzaghe Vs Jones Jr if it happens. Such a shame Calzaghe never fought Jones or Hopkins years ago when they were all in their prime tho.
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Re: Ricky Hatton v Juan Lazcano

hatton looks sloppy as poooo.
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Re: Ricky Hatton v Juan Lazcano

could go either way.
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Re: Ricky Hatton v Juan Lazcano

Thought it was an ok fight, nothing spectacular(looked very shaky for a while there in the 8th) but he got the job done which I think is fair enough for his come back fight.

The Malignaggi/ N'Dou fight was pretty poor, certainly hasn't got me excited at the prospect of Hattons next likely match-up with Malignaggi. Think the highlights of that fight for me were the constant taping up of Malignaggis locks before receiving an impromptu haircut at the end of the 7th round Gives the term "cutman" a whole new meaning
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Re: Ricky Hatton v Juan Lazcano

Thought it was a decent show by Hatton considering the doubts he must've had after defeat, glad he didn't do a Naseem Hamed at least. Hopefully he can regain confidence and form to show the world that he's still king of the light welterweight division.

Have to admit that was the first time I've heard of a cutman cutting his own fighter, hopefully Hatton will give Malignaggi more than a haircut this autumn!
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