[signs]

Or should it be a Clap


i'm not a football fan at all (rugby...yes i know egg chaser )


but i was listening to Jeremy Vine the other day and was shocked at what i

heard (booing through a i minute silence)

i say open the grounds to fans on the day, free of charge, get the players there

and do your own thing

[rizingstar]

Well it happened 50 years ago and i think Man utd should just get on with the future and forget about it tbh! They only bring it on themselves when they do stuff like this, especially a derby match! of course Citeh are gonna kick up a stink when they know how it will affect Man utd etc etc, Man Utd do yourself a favour and start forgetting about the past. RIP and all that?yes - no? hmmmm

[johnscarlet]

Its about paying respect to those who died , rather than celebrating a life lived ala George Best, minutes silence all the way for me.
Its unfortunate that some ******s will take it upon themselves to spoil it , and hopefully those ******s will be singled out of the crowd, and dealt with by City.
Rizingstar , is that a serious post , or one designed to start an argument ?

[thfccambs]

Originally Posted by johnscarlet

Its about paying respect to those who died , rather than celebrating a life lived ala George Best, minutes silence all the way for me.
Its unfortunate that some ******s will take it upon themselves to spoil it , and hopefully those ******s will be singled out of the crowd, and dealt with by City.
Rizingstar , is that a serious post , or one designed to start an argument ?

Agree a minute silence all the way, interested you say if city supporters do ruin it then City (as a club) should deal with them. What exactly can City do? Don't think they could do a thing. Your get the few morons who will ruin it. UTD supporters themselves have been guilty of it before in the past.

I personally hope it goes without hassle, amazed the League didn't move the fixture as they normally pick and choose when team play each other anyway.

[rizingstar]

Lets be honest about it John, they are going to do this against their bitter rivals and i can only imagine one outcome judging by whats went on in the past between the two, ok the forget about it business was a bit too strong i admit that, but maybe if it was against someone else then yes it would be fine.

But you are gonna get that element of so called fan who is gonna start something uncalled for.

[Marc]

the feeling i get is that the Munich disaster is considered a 'manchester' tragedy rather than a manchester united one, as some of the players, and busby himself had previous affiliations with City. Of course there will be some idiots, but i think the majority will respect the silence, especially when they see Man City respecting the occasion themselves by wearing a different kit.

[rizingstar]

I suppose this is the time for Man City fans to put their money where their mouth is, these players had familys and some will be watching paying their respects, I'd be shocked and embarrassed for them if they started something.

[Wild Weasel]

Sir Matt Busby won the FA Cup with Man City in 1934. Another cup winner for City that day, former goalkeeper Frank Swift died as a result of the crash. He was working as a journalist and had been covering the game for the News of the World.


There will always be a few idiots who can't resist an opportunity like this. I just hope the true football fans around them throttle them quickly.

[overkill]

Originally Posted by Marc

the feeling i get is that the Munich disaster is considered a 'manchester' tragedy rather than a manchester united one, as some of the players, and busby himself had previous affiliations with City. Of course there will be some idiots, but i think the majority will respect the silence, especially when they see Man City respecting the occasion themselves by wearing a different kit.

Tbh Marc, it was a national tragedy, never mind a Manchester one, hence we should all respect the occasion.

I for one have never found the 'hilarious' songs about the babes funny, but then I have never found the ugly anti-semitic songs sung about Spurs funny either. Must be me..........

As you say, some idiots, unmindful (full stop?) of the fact that the babes formed the backbone of the England team between 1956-58, will doubtless whistle throughout. An England team, I hasten to add, that was so strong it looked a genuine contender, eight years before they did manage it, to win the WC.

Hopefully the suspected minority of city fans will prove us all wrong and treat the occasion as it should be.

[Steven]

I think it is a great shame that fans have had to be asked to respect the memories of those 23 lives lost that day

Sure sport is great. But there are some things in life that are more important. I think it is very sad when a few idiots cannot show a little respect and act with dignity. I am a human being first and a football fan second

.....................
rizingstar, is that post above genuine or did you want an argument?

[Scholes18]

Originally Posted by johnscarlet

Its about paying respect to those who died , rather than celebrating a life lived ala George Best, minutes silence all the way for me.
Its unfortunate that some ******s will take it upon themselves to spoil it , and hopefully those ******s will be singled out of the crowd, and dealt with by City.

Id been thinking of a way to put what i thought but i couldnt have put it any better than you have john.

Im sick of being referred to as a "munich" by certain sections of city supporters whos bitter jealousy leads them to refer to united fans as such. It constantly amazes me that they think its okay and they completely ignore pne of their greatest ever players was in the crash and lost his life along with the others.


I do hope it passes off okay and that nothing happens but if it does i hope the people concerned are dealt with and are shown up on national television for the scum that they are.


In case any city supporters wander by this thread

What do you guys feel when you here people chanting munich related songs? embarrased? angry? I would in your position


Anyway , heres to a good game and may united win , and win well

[Magic Mike83]

Originally Posted by Scholes18

Id been thinking of a way to put what i thought but i couldnt have put it any better than you have john.

Im sick of being referred to as a "munich" by certain sections of city supporters whos bitter jealousy leads them to refer to united fans as such. It constantly amazes me that they think its okay and they completely ignore pne of their greatest ever players was in the crash and lost his life along with the others.


I do hope it passes off okay and that nothing happens but if it does i hope the people concerned are dealt with and are shown up on national television for the scum that they are.


In case any city supporters wander by this thread

What do you guys feel when you here people chanting munich related songs? embarrased? angry? I would in your position


Anyway , heres to a good game and may united win , and win well

Im a man city fan and will be going the derby and I hope it all goes well, but the press are starting on city before we have even been given a chance.

It was 50 years ago now and I agree we should move on from it now, 1min's clapping would have been better imo.

I remember just after the madrid bombings we played utd at the blue camp and they ruined the minute's silence shouting allsorts of thing's.

We had a minutes silence for george best when we played liverpool and city fans respected it the liverpool fans didn't(not all)

How do utd fans feel about singing, 'city going down like the russian submarine', die die FOE f****** die and alan ball joke's?

[kopchoir]

if it was liverpool at home it would of been rearranged FACT
does this happen every year a mins silence or just because its 50 years

[pixelpixel]

Manchester United Never Intented Coming Home.

Its 50 years! come on, its only 1 minute thats all.

Remeber the russian on the wing was an united player also

[kopchoir]

Originally Posted by Magic Mike83

How do utd fans feel about singing, 'city going down like the russian submarine', die die FOE f****** die and alan ball joke's?

same with hillsborough and hyesel it was 50 years ago wasn`t here dont care not bothered, if man city fans want to disrupt it then fine have no problems with it whatsoever i wont loose no sleep over it its all very different when the shoe is on the other foot i know im going to get flamed for it but i dont really care about that either.
and im not brandishing all manure,liverpool and city fans with the same brush either but if you dish it out then you should be able to take it imo of course

[Woodywizz]

Originally Posted by rizingstar

Well it happened 50 years ago and i think Man utd should just get on with the future and forget about it tbh!

Could you be anymore disrespectful?? Why don't you go on over to the Liverpool forum and tell them that they should forget about Hillsborough as well.

Now run along back to finishing your homework.....I'm presuming your a child as no adult would make a comment such as yours. Your comment is crass and will offend all us Mancunians as well as other respectful football fans.

[thfccambs]

Originally Posted by kopchoir

same with hillsborough and hyesel it was 50 years ago wasn`t here dont care not bothered, if man city fans want to disrupt it then fine have no problems with it whatsoever i wont loose no sleep over it its all very different when the shoe is on the other foot i know im going to get flamed for it but i dont really care about that either.
and im not brandishing all manure,liverpool and city fans with the same brush either but if you dish it out then you should be able to take it imo of course

So your the sort who would join in these sort of songs at grounds, well if you go to football you would join in?

I've never heard anything but pure silence everytime I've been at a Tottenham, game during a 1 minute silence. Maybe us
southerners have more respect for people and life.

[kopchoir]

Originally Posted by hunts1uk

So your the sort who would join in these sort of songs at grounds, well if you go to football you would join in?

no but i was at the liverpool vs manure game this year and right next to the manure fans and all sorts of things micheal shields,hillsborough,heysel,shankly list goes on so why is it acceptable for manchester united fans to sing that at anfield and its not acceptable for man city fans to do the same at ot at the derby did man utd single these fans out and ban them no

[Woodywizz]

I understand where you're coming from Simon - and I know that Utd fans are just as vociferous in their comments when at Anfield. However, this is the 50 year anniversary of Munich, it is an important anniversary, and I would expect the silence to be well-respected.

[thfccambs]

Originally Posted by hunts1uk

UTD supporters themselves have been guilty of it before in the past.

I personally hope it goes without hassle, amazed the League didn't move the fixture as they normally pick and choose when team play each other anyway.

Kopchoir i did mention this earlier.

[kopchoir]

i dont think it will be tbh (observed) i was just making a valid point i thought, and wasnt looking to be insensitive or look for an argument either i still think if it was liverpool at home the fixture would of been rearranged

[Scholes18]

How do utd fans feel about singing, 'city going down like the russian submarine', die die FOE f****** die and alan ball joke's?

Not happy at all. As i see it you cant get annoyed at other clubs going on about the munich disaster and then go and shout something similar.

I remember ( a long time ago ) being at a game where we were playing leeds , think it was during their champions league campaign ) and a moron shouted something along the lines of

" always look out for turks carrying knives..." in reference to the twp leeds supporters that were killed. They were 3 rows in front of me and along a bit and the bloke behind them wasnt happy and whacked him in the back of the head. When the guy kicked off a steward and policeman came over andafter the bloke explained what was going on the muppet shouting the abuse was chucked out and told off.


So no the real fans dont like it at all...

[kopchoir]

Originally Posted by hunts1uk

Kopchoir i did mention this earlier.

i know you did but to be honest you southerners like your lime in your larger to much(i was just giving a recollection of a couple of thousand man u fans at anfield thats all) rivalry is fierce up these parts especially pool manu anyway i dont want deviate form the man utd and city derby thats this is mentioning and start discussing one of the biggest footballing rivalry in world football

[thfccambs]

Originally Posted by kopchoir

i know you did but to be honest you southerners like your lime in your larger to much(i was just giving a recollection of a couple of thousand man u fans at anfield thats all) rivalry is fierce up these parts especially pool manu anyway i dont want deviate form the man utd and city derby thats this is mentioning and start discussing one of the biggest footballing rivalry in world football

I also quoted, why didn't the FA change the fixture at the start of the season as they sort out all the fixtures anyway.

Lemonade mate, not Lime.

[signs]

you wouldn't get this problem at a rugby match







right i'm off

[kopchoir]

Originally Posted by hunts1uk

Lemonade mate, not Lime.

[Scholes18]

Everytime someone orders a lager top an angel dies

[signs]

^

Terry Christian said they should have the silence and if any Man City fans shout

out take their photo's and put them on the front of the Manchester evening

news along with their address

[Abbeygoo]

I've got my ticket sorted for the Derby and received a nice letter from Sven asking for City fans to respect the minute's silence and remember Frank Swift who died in that tragedy along with the United players.

City as a club are doing their best to ensure the occasion is respected. We are wearing a different kit with black trim as a mark of respect, every fan who has a ticket is being sent a personal letter from Sven, blue and white scarves are being handed out at the ground for us to hold up during the silence.

Having said all that, I fear the worst.

A lot of City fans, like myself, dislike United - that's to be expected I suppose. I can hold my hand on my heart and say I have never sang a Munich song and will respect the minute's silence. Unfortunately, there are a number of City fans who hate United and everything they stand for with a passion - and will see this as an opportunity to spoil this important occasion.

The press are already making waves before the day.

I read a report in the local rag that City have been singing about spoiling the "Munich Jubilee" at "recent home games" and this is totally untrue. I have been to every home game this season and have not heard one Munich chant - even during the Derby back in August. The papers love to build up this **** and get the atmosphere upto fever pitch well ahead of the game itself.

The City supporters club have written to United asking for the minute's silence to be replaced with a minute's applause as this can not be spoiled by the minority. United have declined this request as they feel it is a sombre occasion and should be marked as such. I think they should go for the applause but understand the desire to observe the silence as a fitting memorial.

Lets hope the 3,000 City fans all think like I do ....... but lets also hope that the press and public in general don't jump down our throats if a mindless minority decide to disrespect the occasion by shouting out.

[Magic Mike83]

I got my ticket also £50!

No wonder they made a profit last year, £50 is a joke.

I remember watching a programme on the familys of the victims and how utd treated them after the disaster, which is not very nice.

Why don't utd give the familys the profit from the game or at least a percentage if they care so much? We all know they wouldn't do it and thats why they are getting called for milking it.