Member Log In

Not a Member Yet?

It only takes a minute to start enjoying the benefits of AVForums membership, and it's free!

Keegan returns , and all things Newcastle Utd

Post Reply
Old 16-01-2008, 10:21 PM   #31
Senior Member
Paranormalist's Avatar
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Northern Ireland
Thanks: Gave 1,448, Got 673
Posts: 2,694
Re: Keegan returns to Newcastle

Being a Newcastle fan I truly hope that Kevin Keegan can finish what he started when he first took up the job as manager and go on to win silverware with Newcastle. I think this could make or break Newcastle.
  Quote
Advert
Log in or sign up to remove
Old 16-01-2008, 10:25 PM   #32
Prominent Member
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: North Yorkshire
Thanks: Gave 6, Got 162
Posts: 3,458
Re: Keegan returns to Newcastle

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wild Weasel View Post
Well, as an almost-neutral I say good luck to KK and Newcastle. Let's see some decent, attacking football there again.
Totally agree


Steve
  Quote
Old 16-01-2008, 10:26 PM   #33
Conspicuous Member
DrWise's Avatar
Join Date: May 2006
Thanks: Gave 361, Got 547
Posts: 8,807
Re: Keegan returns to Newcastle

From a Man utd fan
wishin the best for Kevin Keegan
Hope he does win some sort of silverware and put pride back in the toon
  Quote
Old 16-01-2008, 10:46 PM   #34
Illustrious Member
Abbeygoo's Avatar
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Manchester
Blog Entries: 2
Thanks: Gave 3,011, Got 3,148
Posts: 18,843
Re: Keegan returns to Newcastle

Quote:
Originally Posted by overkill View Post
... it might be better to just enjoy the moment, bask in the thoughts given, and think, 'well it's better than being Citeah'.

Now, if you want real long suffering fans, City's crowd have been through the LOT!
Quote:
Originally Posted by overkill View Post
He had the same problem at Man City, and, well, look how that ended?
Keegan did really well for City. He took over when we were relegated from the Prem and won us the first division championship with the record number of goals ever scored by a City team in a season. In his first season in the Prem, we finished ninth and he attracted players to the club like Berkovic, Foe, Bernabia, Anelka, Distin and brought through youngsters into the team that hadnt been given a chance before most notably Wright-Phillips and, erm, Barton.

He had about four/five months left on his five year contract when he agreed to step down and let Pearce take over. The headlines about him being a quitter are always vastly exaggerated and I wish the guy all the best at Newcastle. They were a great team to watch when he was manager there before and lets hope they bring that attacking brand of football back - it would be great to see him sparring with Sir Alex again.

Good luck Kev!
  Quote
Thanks from:
bobsplace (17-01-2008), Talisman (24-01-2008)
Old 16-01-2008, 11:54 PM   #35
kingswood
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Keegan returns to Newcastle

Any "true" member of the toon army that experienced the roller coaster that was Keegan's legacy as manager last time around, will know deep in their hearts that this is the best possible thing that could happen to Newcastle United. For too long the club has dabbled with managers that lacked heart and passion for the club (with the exception of the great Sir Bobby Robson) and this is the begining of a new era for Newcastle. A return to the fabulous entertaining football that once graced St James Park. The premier league on a whole has become quite tedious (look to the lower divisions for more entertaining football) and Keegan will bring that flair, style and excitement back to the Premier League, and the whole league and the sport will benefit on the whole.

Long live king Kev! all we need is "pavel is a geordie" back as goal keeping coach (true toon army fanatics will remember the t-shirts, yes I still own one!) , pedro in the wings, clarkie on the staff and the man who is truely god, shearer, as keegans right hand man.

The stuff dreams are made of? I think so!
  Quote
Old 17-01-2008, 12:06 AM   #36
Distinguished Member
kourosh's Avatar
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Never Never Land
Thanks: Gave 1,503, Got 858
Posts: 12,494
Re: Keegan returns to Newcastle

Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnG View Post
Another short-term fan-pleasing decision by the Newcastle board !


Maybe so but...................................i dont think it was possible for any other manager to bring so much excitement and hope!

To be honest i cant remember when the last time naming a manager had such an effect on a club

So maybe it may not be a long term thing,but at least the fans are happy and the place is buzzing(cant remmember the last time,or was it when mr shearer signed),which is something they have not had for a while
but who knows it may just work out

so if its moral they are after its the best signing they could have made
  Quote
Old 17-01-2008, 2:28 AM   #37
Member
Mindcrime's Avatar
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Edmonton via Birkenhead, UK
Thanks: Gave 11, Got 41
Posts: 816
Re: Keegan returns to Newcastle

Quote:
Originally Posted by kourosh View Post
Maybe so but...................................i dont think it was possible for any other manager to bring so much excitement and hope!
Because no other manager would touch the poison chalice that is managing Newcastle. The board are inept and appointing Keegan for the 2nd time proves this point. Christ, even Harry Redknapp couldn't be tempted to move up North. As I said before, this is purely a short term fix and will deepen the agony even further for the Toon Army. You reap what you sow!

Last edited by John; 17-01-2008 at 1:59 PM. Reason: remove unsubstatiated allegation
  Quote
Old 17-01-2008, 2:35 AM   #38
Member
bobsplace's Avatar
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Newcastle
Thanks: Gave 53, Got 47
Posts: 936
Re: Keegan returns to Newcastle

Quote:
Originally Posted by Abbeygoo View Post
Keegan did really well for City. He took over when we were relegated from the Prem and won us the first division championship with the record number of goals ever scored by a City team in a season. In his first season in the Prem, we finished ninth and he attracted players to the club like Berkovic, Foe, Bernabia, Anelka, Distin and brought through youngsters into the team that hadnt been given a chance before most notably Wright-Phillips and, erm, Barton.

He had about four/five months left on his five year contract when he agreed to step down and let Pearce take over. The headlines about him being a quitter are always vastly exaggerated and I wish the guy all the best at Newcastle. They were a great team to watch when he was manager there before and lets hope they bring that attacking brand of football back - it would be great to see him sparring with Sir Alex again.

Good luck Kev!
At last,someone that knows football and sees beyond the media drivel
  Quote
Old 17-01-2008, 8:32 AM   #39
Member
Join Date: Sep 2006
Thanks: Gave 5, Got 28
Posts: 321
Re: Keegan returns to Newcastle

It is certaintly an interesting appointment, Newcastle was always a fun team to watch when he was there before and they were involved in a lot of the classic premier league games.

I can't remember many Managers doing that well when going back to a club that they have managed before, only really Redknapp and Portsmouth spring to mind. I just hope it goes well for Keegan as it will be a shame if he fails and damages his reputation among the toon army.

Still should be fun whatever happens, good luck Kev and Newcastle, and get your money on 4-3 when they next play Liverpool
  Quote
Old 17-01-2008, 9:31 AM   #40
Illustrious Member
Abbeygoo's Avatar
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Manchester
Blog Entries: 2
Thanks: Gave 3,011, Got 3,148
Posts: 18,843
Re: Keegan returns to Newcastle

Quote:
Originally Posted by bobsplace View Post
At last,someone that knows football and sees beyond the media drivel
I thank you. Some of the stuff that you read in the papers and see on Sky News gets translated virtually word for word onto here sometimes .... Kevin Keegan is a football man through and through and a legend up in the North East. His achievements as a player throughout his career were sensational from Liverpool to Borussia Monchengladbach to Southampton to Newcastle. Everywhere he went he was a catalyst for the club's fortunes and turned in amazing performances. How hard is it for an Englishman to win the European Footballer of the Year? Never mind two years in succession.

Back to his managerial career - after he did the tremendous job at Newcastle, he then went on to repeat the feat with Fulham and bring them up two divisions to be a premiership team - which they still are today. He came to City and brought us up from the 1st Division as champions. He was virtually pressganged into becoming the England manager when maybe he wasn't ready and was quickly turned on after losing the Germany game.

He brings a vigour and enthusiasm that no other can. He gets players playing for him because he was such a good player himself. You could say he was born to manage teams like Newcastle and City and I wish him the best of luck as he is one of football's good guys and another English manager which will be really good for the premiership .... I bet Sky are glad they can roll out that famous footage of his rant .... and look forward to a few more.
  Quote
Old 17-01-2008, 9:37 AM   #41
Eminent Member
HMHB's Avatar
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Nottinghamshire
Thanks: Gave 2,922, Got 1,521
Posts: 22,145
Re: Keegan returns to Newcastle

That still doesn't alter the fact that he's always been tactically inept. I remember after the England Germany game in the pubs around St Pancrass and even the Geordies there were calling for him to be sacked and then he quit and they were all happy.
Football fans are very fickle people
  Quote
Old 17-01-2008, 9:39 AM   #42
Illustrious Member
Abbeygoo's Avatar
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Manchester
Blog Entries: 2
Thanks: Gave 3,011, Got 3,148
Posts: 18,843
Re: Keegan returns to Newcastle

Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnG View Post
That still doesn't alter the fact that he's always been tactically inept. I remember after the England Germany game in the pubs around St Pancrass and even the Geordies there were calling for him to be sacked and then he quit and they were all happy.
Football fans are very fickle people
Always been tactically inept? What a sweeping statement! When Newcastle got promoted and then finished 2nd in the Premiership was he tactically inept? Everyone in the country wanted to watch Newcastle and their brand of attacking football was great to watch.
  Quote
Old 17-01-2008, 9:40 AM   #43
Distinguished Member
kourosh's Avatar
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Never Never Land
Thanks: Gave 1,503, Got 858
Posts: 12,494
Re: Keegan returns to Newcastle

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mindcrime View Post
Because no other manager would touch the poison chalice that is managing Newcastle. The board are inept and appointing Keegan for the 2nd time proves this point. Christ, even Harry Redknapp couldn't be tempted to move up North. As I said before, this is purely a short term fix and will deepen the agony even further for the Toon Army. You reap what you sow!
why dont you read my post properly
by the way you dont work for the BBC,as nothing has been proven about Harry


and any how what's wrong with short term fix,it could work out better for both parties

Last edited by John; 17-01-2008 at 1:59 PM.
  Quote
Old 17-01-2008, 9:44 AM   #44
Eminent Member
HMHB's Avatar
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Nottinghamshire
Thanks: Gave 2,922, Got 1,521
Posts: 22,145
Re: Keegan returns to Newcastle

Quote:
Originally Posted by Abbeygoo View Post
Always been tactically inept? What a sweeping statement! When Newcastle got promoted and then finished 2nd in the Premiership was he tactically inept? Everyone in the country wanted to watch Newcastle and their brand of attacking football was great to watch.
Yes he was tactically inept even in those days, in my opinion.
  Quote
Old 17-01-2008, 9:45 AM   #45
Illustrious Member
Abbeygoo's Avatar
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Manchester
Blog Entries: 2
Thanks: Gave 3,011, Got 3,148
Posts: 18,843
Re: Keegan returns to Newcastle

Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnG View Post
Yes he was tactically inept even in those days, in my opinion.
OK. I don't agree.
  Quote
Old 17-01-2008, 10:00 AM   #46
Eminent Member
HMHB's Avatar
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Nottinghamshire
Thanks: Gave 2,922, Got 1,521
Posts: 22,145
Re: Keegan returns to Newcastle

Quote:
Originally Posted by Abbeygoo View Post
OK. I don't agree.
That's one of the good things about football isn't it ? We all have different opinions on lots of different aspects of the game
  Quote
Old 17-01-2008, 10:35 AM   #47
Distinguished Member
overkill's Avatar
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Murkeyside
Thanks: Gave 334, Got 945
Posts: 10,660
Re: Keegan returns to Newcastle

Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnG View Post
Yes he was tactically inept even in those days, in my opinion.
Yeah, I'll go with that. Good at getting teams going forward, but not so clever at getting teams to defend, or to dig themselves out of a hole.

Sorry, but I think some blinkers are being fitted here already. Hi Abbey
  Quote
Old 17-01-2008, 10:54 AM   #48
Senior Member
technoman28's Avatar
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Newcastle upon Tyne
Thanks: Gave 99, Got 235
Posts: 1,016
Re: Keegan returns to Newcastle

Whatever anyone says it is the players on the pitch who win or lose games with the way they play as a team, the managers job is to get the best out of them and make them play their best. What you therefore need is someone who knows how to do that. KK is that kind of person, because he has a passion for Newcastle, he knows what to expect, and what is expected of him. He is not the type of man who would take the job for the money (although it is probably quite a wedge), he has taken it because he believes he can do what is required.
What we have got is a manager who inspires the players, the staff, the fans and the whole city. With that kind of combination anything is possible.
  Quote
Old 17-01-2008, 11:01 AM   #49
Distinguished Member
overkill's Avatar
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Murkeyside
Thanks: Gave 334, Got 945
Posts: 10,660
Re: Keegan returns to Newcastle

Quote:
Originally Posted by technoman28 View Post
Whatever anyone says it is the players on the pitch who win or lose games with the way they play as a team, the managers job is to get the best out of them and make them play their best. What you therefore need is someone who knows how to do that. KK is that kind of person, because he has a passion for Newcastle, he knows what to expect, and what is expected of him. He is not the type of man who would take the job for the money (although it is probably quite a wedge), he has taken it because he believes he can do what is required.
What we have got is a manager who inspires the players, the staff, the fans and the whole city. With that kind of combination anything is possible.
I hope you're right, I really do. I don't think Newcastle fans can take much more.

Apart from the 4th round FA cup game anyway..........
  Quote
Old 17-01-2008, 2:37 PM   #50
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2007
Thanks: Gave 333, Got 104
Posts: 1,580
Re: Keegan returns to Newcastle

KK reminds me of the Villa manager Martin O'Neill,inasmuch as they both show their love for the game.

Interesting times for NUFC, I think they will improve and do well.

They may have their faults but been boring is not one of them.
  Quote
Old 18-01-2008, 7:56 PM   #51
Member
rizingstar's Avatar
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Newcastle Upon Tyne
Thanks: Gave 801, Got 201
Posts: 998
Re: Keegan returns to Newcastle

Probably shouldn't bring this up, but how well did KK get one over on the media today? fantastic!he said just about everything what the fans feel!

Quote:
"The fans would like to win something. When they've worked all week, the match for them, it's a bit like the people down south going to the theatre.
"They're going to be entertained. They're coming to this ground and they want to see something that's worth seeing, they want to enjoy it.
  Quote
Old 18-01-2008, 8:09 PM   #52
Distinguished Member
Marc's Avatar
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Southsea
Thanks: Gave 372, Got 1,025
Posts: 11,337
Re: Keegan returns to Newcastle

Quote:
Originally Posted by Abbeygoo View Post
Always been tactically inept? What a sweeping statement! When Newcastle got promoted and then finished 2nd in the Premiership was he tactically inept? Everyone in the country wanted to watch Newcastle and their brand of attacking football was great to watch.
losing a 12 point lead could be considered tactically inept, but i think that season he was more emotionally inept, he let Fergie's mind games affect him and the closer the end of the season got, the more he caved under the pressure and it affected the team in a big way.

He's likely to be stuck mid table for the next few years, as i can't see anyone breaking the top 4 so i doubt he'll have the same sort of pressure he had that season, but you have to wonder if he's the man to lead newcastle to greatness, or just the man to set them on an even keel again

either way, he is a big character and it's nice to have some of those in the premier league. Fergie and Wenger hardly make a peep these days and Mourinho's not around anymore, so the league is devoid of the big characters it's had in the past
  Quote
Old 18-01-2008, 8:16 PM   #53
Moderator
John's Avatar
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: location location
Thanks: Gave 326, Got 1,379
Posts: 9,162
Re: Keegan returns to Newcastle

He gave a good press conference today , very witty
  Quote
Old 18-01-2008, 10:00 PM   #54
Member
Tsunami's Avatar
Join Date: Jul 2005
Thanks: Gave 6, Got 9
Posts: 202
Re: Keegan returns to Newcastle

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mindcrime View Post
Because no other manager would touch the poison chalice that is managing Newcastle. The board are inept and appointing Keegan for the 2nd time proves this point. Christ, even Harry Redknapp couldn't be tempted to move up North. As I said before, this is purely a short term fix and will deepen the agony even further for the Toon Army. You reap what you sow!

You really are a muppet; every Geordie poster on here will recognise that without any explanation. Anyone on here who went to SJP when KK managed the first time will also have some idea of the ******** that people believe via the spin of southern media.
  Quote
Thanks from:
Steve N (19-01-2008)
Old 18-01-2008, 10:06 PM   #55
Member
bobsplace's Avatar
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Newcastle
Thanks: Gave 53, Got 47
Posts: 936
Re: Keegan returns to Newcastle

His press conference had me in tears today,the bloke commands respect and a room like no other person on earth!!

The press were in total awe of him and to the doubters who say Newcastle isin't a big club,the media circus which has follwed us around would'nt have been as intense at any other club,nowhere.......FACT.

All hail the man KK..
  Quote
Old 18-01-2008, 10:24 PM   #56
Ex Member
Join Date: Sep 2002
Thanks: Gave 10, Got 15
Posts: 390
Re: Keegan returns to Newcastle

Quote:
His press conference had me in tears today,the bloke commands respect and a room like no other person on earth!!

The press were in total awe of him and to the doubters who say Newcastle isin't a big club,the media circus which has follwed us around would'nt have been as intense at any other club,nowhere.......FACT.

All hail the man KK..
Well said!!!
  Quote
Old 18-01-2008, 10:43 PM   #57
Distinguished Member
Marc's Avatar
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Southsea
Thanks: Gave 372, Got 1,025
Posts: 11,337
Re: Keegan returns to Newcastle

is the conference on the web anywhere? sounds like a good watch!
  Quote
Old 18-01-2008, 10:52 PM   #58
Member
bobsplace's Avatar
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Newcastle
Thanks: Gave 53, Got 47
Posts: 936
Re: Keegan returns to Newcastle

Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc View Post
is the conference on the web anywhere? sounds like a good watch!
Tune into NUTV aka (Sky Sport News),its repeated on there mate.
  Quote
Old 18-01-2008, 10:57 PM   #59
Distinguished Member
Marc's Avatar
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Southsea
Thanks: Gave 372, Got 1,025
Posts: 11,337
Re: Keegan returns to Newcastle

Quote:
Originally Posted by bobsplace View Post
Tune into NUTV aka (Sky Sport News),its repeated on there mate.
wish i could mate,my girlfriend's recorded a weeks worth of big brother and home and away so i doubt i'll get to touch it all weekend.. don't know why i bother spending so much on home cinema equipment..
  Quote
Old 18-01-2008, 11:01 PM   #60
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Shropshire
Thanks: Gave 597, Got 259
Posts: 2,650
Re: Keegan returns to Newcastle

Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc View Post
is the conference on the web anywhere? sounds like a good watch!
Anywhere please?
  Quote
Post Reply



Thread information and display options
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off