I am proud to be the England Manager...

loz · 17-12-2007, 1:20 PM

But it has to be shown in subtitles, because I can't speak a word of English...

evolved77 · 17-12-2007, 1:52 PM

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Originally Posted by loz

But it has to be shown in subtitles, because I can't speak a word of English...

And?

He will learn the language. He is a winner with a proven record.

The English managers in the premierships are losers.

Harry Redknapp? Sam Alladayce? Steve Coppell? Yor having a laugh.

Capello will be excellent for England. Im very happy with this appointment and I'm not fussed if he's English isnt the greatest, he wiill learn.

hdsport · 17-12-2007, 2:02 PM

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Originally Posted by loz

But it has to be shown in subtitles, because I can't speak a word of English...

Predictable comment and wrong...he speaks some English but isn't stupid enough to hold a press conference in it at this stage and risk being crucified as some sort of Captain Bertorelli figure by the xenophobic tabloid rags...he worked for Berlusconi managing Mediolanum so I'm sure has picked up some 'Business English' as well.

During the press conference he didn't need the translator for some of the questions and learnt Spanish very quickly (by all accounts) when at Madrid so why shouldn't he learn English just as quickly?

thfccambs · 17-12-2007, 2:04 PM

He's a winner with a capital W.

loz · 17-12-2007, 2:09 PM

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Originally Posted by hdsport

Predictable comment and wrong...he speaks some English but isn't stupid enough to hold a press conference in it at this stage and risk being crucified as some sort of Captain Bertorelli figure by the xenophobic tabloid rags.

Surely the whole point of an English team is xenophibic.

Why else have an English team?

Coach foreign, coaching team foreign, why not foreign players?

Why is it xenophobic to ask why the English manager isn't English?
But not xenophobic to ask why the players are?

hdsport · 17-12-2007, 2:13 PM

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Originally Posted by loz

Surely the whole point of an English team is xenophibic.

Why else have an English team?

Coach foreign, coaching team foreign, why not foreign players?

Why is it xenophobic to ask why the English manager isn't English?
But not xenophobic to ask why the players are?

I'm talking about taking cheap shots about someone not speaking the language not whether foreign coaches should be allowed to manage national teams.

You were questioning his sincerity at being proud to manage the team because he 'doesn't speak the language.

As for the point of international football being xenophobia well no wonder we get morons booing national anthems or singing 10 German bombers etc. Usually people who are so moronic that they haven't worked out that it is generally counter productive.

thfccambs · 17-12-2007, 2:15 PM

Who is Brain Barwick anyway, has he played top flight football?

What gives him the credentials for picking the new England manager?

Who cares if he speaks English most of the players are so thick they can't understand English anyway.

If Pearce gets the job as back room staff it goes to show what a complete joke the FA are.

hdsport · 17-12-2007, 2:19 PM

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Originally Posted by hunts1uk

Who is Brain Barwick anyway, has he played top flight football?

What gives him the credentials for picking the new England manager?

Head of BBC/ITV Sport who has just negotiated a record TV deal so the guy certainly has credentials when it comes to the FA's finances which I assume is a huge part of his role the rest of the time. As for picking the manager well it was him and Brooking so I suppose one finance/media guy and one football guy.

mason · 17-12-2007, 2:21 PM

magic!

i love all the comments that relate to Capello as a great manager with a proven track record......

yes at club level with world class stars.... time will tell of course but i think that the FA will have to look for another manmager over the next 12-18months again.... with seroius compensation/payout!

I do hope that he turns the teams fortunes around as its a wee bit embarrassing not having one britsh team in the euro's etc and we cant afford for that to happen again!

The problem the english national team will find is the lack of quality players they have..... simply because all the quality players playing in the english top flight are foreigners!

evolved77 · 17-12-2007, 2:21 PM

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Originally Posted by hdsport

I'm talking about taking cheap shots about someone not speaking the language not whether foreign coaches should be allowed to manage national teams.

You were questioning his sincerity at being proud to manage the team because he 'doesn't speak the language.

As for the point of international football being xenophobia well no wonder we get morons booing national anthems or singing 10 German bombers etc. Usually people are so moronic that they haven't worked out that it is generally counter productive

Well said HD... theres a big difference between xenophobia and being patriotic.

I love my country, but doesn't mean I have to hate/dislike foreigners.

mason · 17-12-2007, 2:22 PM

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Originally Posted by hunts1uk

If Pearce gets the job as back room staff it goes to show what a complete joke the FA are.

thats a fact... no proven track record at all.... quality player but couldnt manage when given the chance!

thfccambs · 17-12-2007, 2:24 PM

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Originally Posted by hdsport

Head of BBC/ITV Sport who has just negotiated a record TV deal so the guy certainly has credentials when it comes to the FA's finances which I assume is a huge part of his role the rest of the time. As for picking the manager well it was him and Brooking so I suppose one finance/media guy and one football guy.

Might as well get Rupert Murdock to pick the next manager then.

hdsport · 17-12-2007, 2:33 PM

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Originally Posted by hunts1uk

Might as well get Rupert Murdock to pick the next manager then.

Well he's chief executive you need a guy with some business sense for the rest of job would you put Alan Shearer (for sake of argument) in charge of a tv rights deal worth hundreds of millions of pounds?

As I said Trevor Brooking was involved and they consulted with people within the game so it's not a completely terrible way of going about things. Also having a non-football man in charge means less chance of the old boys network running things eg those certain ex-pro's in the media who would never criticise their mates.

It's not to say there aren't big problems with the FA for example the group who decided to sack McLaren including people from the local FA's. It's like having a county councillor help decide if we go to war.

By the way Murdoch is a success and if he ever was in charge of the FA I'm sure would make sure (through what ever means) that England won everything in sight!!!!!

evolved77 · 17-12-2007, 2:34 PM

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Originally Posted by hunts1uk

Might as well get Rupert Murdock to pick the next manager then.

.....the game is first and foremost about winning....

Capello is a winner.

Typical English attitude here, moan, moan, queue, moan, attack success, moan and more queuing.

Anyone else wanna moan?

evolved77 · 17-12-2007, 2:37 PM

And actually, it was precisely this anti-foreign sentiment that lead to the appointment of that loser McClaren.

Do you people want to win something or not??

mason · 17-12-2007, 2:38 PM

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Originally Posted by evolved77

Capello is a winner.

Typical English attitude here, moan, moan, queue, moan, attack success, moan and more queuing.

Anyone else wanna moan?

i think concerned should be the phrase you used there instead of moaning.....

no proven national track record, huge salary, rushed appointment....

loz · 17-12-2007, 2:38 PM

Well I am neither a moron, nor do I dislike foreigners... (in fact i married one...).

But yes, I guess it was just a cheap shot.

However, I still think it is valid to ask what it is he has to be "proud" about?
Or is that a euphanism for "highly paid"... ?

thfccambs · 17-12-2007, 2:39 PM

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Originally Posted by hdsport

Well he's chief executive you need a guy with some business sense
r.

How much did Wembley cost?

loz · 17-12-2007, 2:40 PM

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Originally Posted by evolved77

Capello is a winner.

So what?

So are most of the Italian football team.
Should they be playing for England too if winning is the only criteria?

thfccambs · 17-12-2007, 2:41 PM

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Originally Posted by evolved77

Capello is a winner.

Typical English attitude here, moan, moan, queue, moan, attack success, moan and more queuing.

Anyone else wanna moan?

As an England member who actually pays his money to go see England home and away i think i have a right to moan about the state of England national team if i want.

evolved77 · 17-12-2007, 2:44 PM

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Originally Posted by mason

i think concerned should be the phrase you used there instead of moaning.....

no proven national track record, huge salary, rushed appointment....

His record is remarkable and stands upto any manager in world football.

Huge salary, yes, good luck to Senor Capello, he's deserves to get whatever he can, we live in a supply/demand capitalisic world, thats not footballs fault!

Rushed... I concede its been quick, but then who else was there to appoint? Mourinho never wanted the job. Apart from him, Lippi maybe, but he can't speak ANY English!

Concerned/moaning, same sh*t, different smell - I think its a great appointment.

hdsport · 17-12-2007, 2:44 PM

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Originally Posted by hunts1uk

How much did Wembley cost?

and when did Barwick take charge....January 2005, Wembley was already well underway by then you can't blame him for all of that. You can blame him for McClaren etc.

As for his business sense, the Setanta/ITV is £425m up over £100m from the last one not a bad deal.

He said himself during the press conference that the FA's gross income of the next 4.5 years is going to close to £1bn.

evolved77 · 17-12-2007, 2:46 PM

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Originally Posted by hunts1uk

As an England member who actually pays his money to go see England home and away i think i have a right to moan about the state of England national team if i want.

Official England member huh... I bet you love a good queue.

thfccambs · 17-12-2007, 2:48 PM

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Originally Posted by hdsport

and when did Barwick take charge....January 2005, Wembley was already well underway

Still not totally finished yet.

The blokes a complete waste of time just like the rest of the old school stuck up
***** at the FA.

thfccambs · 17-12-2007, 2:49 PM

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Originally Posted by evolved77

Official England member huh... I bet you love a good queue.

Something you don't need to do really, probably as people don't want to go
and watch the **** football they play.

SPURS1882 · 17-12-2007, 2:52 PM

When was the last time an English manager won anything in the premeirship?

Nuff Said!!

evolved77 · 17-12-2007, 2:54 PM

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Originally Posted by hunts1uk

Something you don't need to do really, probably as people don't want to go
and watch the **** football they play.

Moan, 'concern', moan, , blah, blah, blah! LOL

Anyways, this does sound a bit like the debate about foreign workers in general... Surely Senor Capello, a highly skilled migrant worker is simply doing a job that no Englishman wants to do!

...Unless we appoint Paul Ince or Stuart Pearce... mmmmm winners.

thfccambs · 17-12-2007, 3:05 PM

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Originally Posted by SPURS1881

When was the last time an English manager won anything in the premeirship?

Nuff Said!!

When was the last time an Italian manager won any thing in the premiership

Nuff said,

I have no problem with Capello at all, my problems with the like of Barwick and the other old ***** at the FA,
why not get them replaced with younger buisness people and x players?

For me they just don't have a clue.

evolved77 · 17-12-2007, 3:12 PM

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Originally Posted by hunts1uk

When was the last time an Italian manager won any thing in the premiership

Nuff said,

When was the last time a foreign manager won something in the premiership? Oh yea, all the time!?

Actually correct me if Im wrong, but there only been 2 Italian managers in the premiership... Raneri and Vialli.... I think.

SPURS1882 · 17-12-2007, 3:13 PM

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Originally Posted by hunts1uk

When was the last time an Italian manager won any thing in the premiership

Nuff said,

Good one