Is giving the G14 a greater say in the game tantamount to suicide?

[overkill]

Well, after all his big talk, and threats about putting the 'big boys' into line, Platini joined the rest of the 'cave in club', by stating that after 'negotiations' *snort* it's now going to be agreed that an expanded G14 will have a 'real say' in how the game is run.

Somehow, I have the 'giving the fox the job of guarding the chickens' feeling coming over me again. This smacks of the same 'idea' that the FA had when setting up the PL. And what's happened as a result of that? The rich have got phenomenally richer while the game, as a spectacle has got poorer, as have all the clubs outside the 'big four'.

Does anyone seriously believe that an organisation developed out of pure self interest is the ideal body for making policy for the entire UEFA church?

The Worlds gone bloody mad....................... :

[DJT75]

Originally Posted by overkill

Well, after all his big talk, and threats about putting the 'big boys' into line, Platini joined the rest of the 'cave in club', by stating that after 'negotiations' *snort* it's now going to be agreed that an expanded G14 will have a 'real say' in how the game is run.

Somehow, I have the 'giving the fox the job of guarding the chickens' feeling coming over me again. This smacks of the same 'idea' that the FA had when setting up the PL. And what's happened as a result of that? The rich have got phenomenally richer while the game, as a spectacle has got poorer, as have all the clubs outside the 'big four'.

Does anyone seriously believe that an organisation developed out of pure self interest is the ideal body for making policy for the entire UEFA church?

The Worlds gone bloody mad....................... :

I must admit, I'm with you on this one. I've never liked the idea of G14 & the thought of them having even more influence can't be ideal.

However, if we did leave everything up to UEFA (or FIFA on a world stage), we'd probably be far worse off when you look at the mess they've made of everything else. So maybe it's not a bad thing after all. Catch 22.

[overkill]

Originally Posted by DJT75

I must admit, I'm with you on this one. I've never liked the idea of G14 & the thought of them having even more influence can't be ideal.

However, if we did leave everything up to UEFA (or FIFA on a world stage), we'd probably be far worse off when you look at the mess they've made of everything else. So maybe it's not a bad thing after all. Catch 22.

Agree totally that UEFA and FIFA are about as much use as a chocolate fireguard, but one of the main problems has always been keeping the big clubs happy, and the flow of money they want.

Now, they will have an active say in that, and, if latest proposals go through, a share of the money from UEFA 2008 and future international tournaments?! What the hell is going on? In other words the proceeds for your country's appearance in the tournament will end up going into the players pockets - if this is accepted. Which it will.

Sorry, but they might just as well pay the mercenary little ***** directly.

One thought on that though, at least our lot can't line their pockets with yet another pay packet next summer......

[RMCF]

Got to agree with you overkill, and me a fan of one of the G14.

The CL continues to lose its appeal for me. Most of the teams in it are crap now and I can see a Euro Super League in the not too distant future, with teams being all sitting down without UEFA and inviting each other into it (based on size of stadium and ability to fill it every game). The teams will continue to compete in their leagues, but with their second team.

Football is slowing dying.

[DJT75]

Originally Posted by overkill

One thought on that though, at least our lot can't line their pockets with yet another pay packet next summer......

Your lot are all going, it's the Englishman that aren't

[DJT75]

Originally Posted by RMCF

Football is slowing dying.

Merry Christmas!

[danaldinho7]

I don't think this is too bad, yes they have making more money on the top of their lists but they do know how to run clubs better and it could see wages restrictions etc being put into place and Platini isn't an idiot, despite what some people think, and seems to want to do good of football

[overkill]

Originally Posted by danaldinho7

I don't think this is too bad, yes they have making more money on the top of their lists but they do know how to run clubs better and it could see wages restrictions etc being put into place and Platini isn't an idiot, despite what some people think, and seems to want to do good of football

This is why we have seen buy-outs, because 'clubs are managed so well', top clubs hawking their assets to foreign investors, and all because they can't or won't tackle players about their wages? With Bosmann in place, how can they? If a player gets cheesed off he just goes, and what can the club do? Yet we didn't see the G14 getting behind UEFA in their bid to get Bosmann overturned did we?

Sorry, but that argument holds as much water as a sieve. They do everything out of self interest, and nothing to help the game. If they did, as they are effectively forcing it do their bidding it anyway, then it wouldn't be in the mess it is.

As such giving them political as well as the financial clout is virtually signing off any chance the game has of long term survival in a form the fans want - and it's not the one Sky and the G14 are after.

Platini has lost any respect I had for him, and frankly after his outbursts during WC 98', that was pretty thin anyway.

[hdsport]

Originally Posted by overkill

Sorry, but they might just as well pay the mercenary little ***** directly.

One thought on that though, at least our lot can't line their pockets with yet another pay packet next summer......

Just on that England players actually donate their match fees to charity. They would of course have had bonuses based on performance.

Back on topic Platini was an idiot to think the G14 would put up with his plans...it would have just lead to a breakaway.

[overkill]

Originally Posted by hdsport

Just on that England players actually donate their match fees to charity. They would of course have had bonuses based on performance.

Back on topic Platini was an idiot to think the G14 would put up with his plans...it would have just lead to a breakaway.

Good point. But what the G14 clubs are proposing would see an end to that. It would (sorry will) allow the 'big clubs' to pay their players directly for appearances in major tournaments. Thus ending the charitable link.

Good is all I can say to that. We need the G14 sides to break away on their own. Hopefully then the national leagues can re-organise around the clubs who aren't wearing size 12 boots on size 14 feet. Better still I hope the clubs challenge FIFA - who control the rights to play football. It's the last card they have to play, and frankly I wish they would.

Who will turn up to Old Trafford to watch Aussie rules?

Once the G14 clubs go, the remaining clubs should prevent them playing in the national leauges, form new leauges, and refuse to play them in any cup, or European competition. The loss of revenue would soon bring them to heel, like the dirty dogs they are.

However, with the 'greed factor' blinding the lesser lights to the obvious that'll happen about the time I win the Euro millions. Which since I don't enter.........