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[dazzafact]

I like Sven Goran Eriksson.





Soz.

[Dave26]

Guess your watching Inside Sport?

[dazzafact]

Yeah, but I've had deep desire to tell everyone that anyway. I certainly don't think he deserved to get sacked or treated by the press like he did.

[Dave26]

Yeah definitely didn't deserve to be treated like that, comes across really well don't you think? Can't see things getting much better anytime soon for England

[Dave]

One things for certain, the England team were far more inspiring under Sven than McLaren.

Another case of the tabloids going after someone to sell papers I'm afraid.

[dazzafact]

well he always did. I find it quite annoying that they have the press on afterwards though telling everyone what we all obviously thought about the man

[wogsy]

Sven was a total f**kwit who took one of the most promising teams in the world and made us play like a pub team..
That is why he got sacked.! Blaming the media is a total cop-out.

Were do I start.
Reason 1. He totally picked the wrong squad to take to the world cup.
He takes a clearly un-fit Rooney and a 17 year old boy (Wallcott) who had never played for his club, never mind his country.
From the start he had absoutely no intention of playing him whatsoever..
He takes too many midfielders and not enough strikers. Andy Johnson would have been good cover as when Owen got injured, we had noone left to score.. He leaves players who had earnt the right to be there at home..
He didnt even have the balls to give Theo wallcott a runout during the portugal game when we desprately needed a goal.. (Er, why bring him then sven)

Reason 2. He was so far up David Bechams arse, that his nose was brown..
Beckham hadnt had a decent game for England in two years yet he never once dropped him for the much more productive Aarron Lennon.. (A lot of players have since complained that Beckham had far too much of an influence on the team and everyone elses opinion clearly didnt matter) Not good for team spirit if you ask me..

Reason 3.. The WAGS.. He let the players girlfriends run riot in germany.. The stupid peroxide headed wags were playing a stupid game of competing with each other for headlines, which was clearly a distraction for the team. By all means let their girlfriends visit for a day or two, but letting them have full access to the team during the whole tournament was clearly a mistake..

I could go on more about some of his player choices and negative style of play but I think Ive made my opinion clear.

If he was that good a manager then why wont no other football club touch him with a barge pole..
Sven fancies himself as a bit of a celebrity first and a manager second.. He is a total tosspot..

(Rant over )

[dazzafact]

Originally Posted by wogsy

Sven was a total f**kwit who took one of the most promising teams in the world and made us play like a pub team..
That is why he got sacked.! Blaming the media is a total cop-out.

Were do I start.
Reason 1. He totally picked the wrong squad to take to the world cup.
He takes a clearly un-fit Rooney and a 17 year old boy (Wallcott) who had never played for his club, never mind his country.
From the start he had absoutely no intention of playing him whatsoever..
He takes too many midfielders and not enough strikers. Andy Johnson would have been good cover as when Owen got injured, we had noone left to score.. He leaves players who had earnt the right to be there at home..
He didnt even have the balls to give Theo wallcott a runout during the portugal game when we desprately needed a goal.. (Er, why bring him then sven)

Reason 2. He was so far up David Bechams arse, that his nose was brown..
Beckham hadnt had a decent game for England in two years yet he never once dropped him for the much more productive Aarron Lennon.. (A lot of players have since complained that Beckham had far too much of an influence on the team and everyone elses opinion clearly didnt matter) Not good for team spirit if you ask me..

Reason 3.. The WAGS.. He let the players girlfriends run riot in germany.. The stupid peroxide headed wags were playing a stupid game of competing with each other for headlines, which was clearly a distraction for the team. By all means let their girlfriends visit for a day or two, but letting them have full access to the team during the whole tournament was clearly a mistake..

I could go on more about some of his player choices and negative style of play but I think Ive made my opinion clear.

If he was that good a manager then why wont no other football club touch him with a barge pole..
Sven fancies himself as a bit of a celebrity first and a manager second.. He is a total tosspot..

(Rant over )

None of your points are anything but media guff I'm afraid.

First point. Apub team that lost 5 competative matches, 2 of which were on penalties, is quite clearly a very good pub team.

Second point is arguable. But I firmly believe that if he hadn't taken Theo Walcott, you would be complaining that he left a fantastic player who would've won us the world cup.

Third point. David Beckam is still the best right sided midfielder we have. On your theory, Michael Owen, Gerrard and Lampard, Rooney and Cashley Cole should not play for England evr again.

And your reason 3 is just completely absurd. Do you actually think that this did anything other than sell newspapers to people like you who would believe such dribble?

If he was that good a manager then why wont no other football club touch him with a barge pole..
Sven fancies himself as a bit of a celebrity first and a manager second.. He is a total tosspot..

I'm not even going to begin to explain the things wrong with this.

[Dave]

Originally Posted by dazzafact

None of your points are anything but media guff I'm afraid.

Have to agree, it looks like points quoted straight from the Mirror.

The simplr fact remains that under Sven, the England team were a hell of a lot better than they are now.

[Sonic67]

Originally Posted by Dave W

The simplr fact remains that under Sven, the England team were a hell of a lot better than they are now.

I think that's more about Steve McLaren being very bad as an England manager than Sven being good.

[Dave]

Originally Posted by Sonic67

I think that's more about Steve McLaren being very bad as an England manager than Sven being good.

You may be right.

[dazzafact]

It's beyond me why people feel that we had a god given right to lift the world cup. And that it was all Svens fault that we never. For a team that has no true right midfielder a questionable left sided midfielder, no cover for any other position other than central midfield and a desire to still place Owen on a pedestal, we still believe we're great.

I think people need to realise that it is the medias fault that we will never get another good manager in charge of England. And it is you buying these cr@p papers filled with stupid stories about managers/players/players wives that means this will continue for a very long time.

Spread the Sven love.

[zmoosa1]

IMO the true England fan wants their national manager to show more passion towards the team, this is where I believe Sven fell down. His lack of touchline management gave the impression that he didn't have a clue what he needed to do. To blame the media COMPLETELY is not right as Sven made a rod for his own back both on and off the pitch and this is what was ultimately his downfall. Not sure national management is for him, I feel he's better suited to club management.

[JohnG]

Sven talks the talk but can't provide the goods in my view. He was always unwilling to admit there was a problem, even after losing with a pathetic performance to Northern Ireland. He should have seen that HIS tactics were not working and changed things around.
How do you think he's managed to pull all the fit totty in his life ? Don't be fooled by his charms

[dazzafact]

Originally Posted by zmoosa1

IMO the true England fan wants their national manager to show more passion towards the team, this is where I believe Sven fell down.

Originally Posted by JohnG

. He was always unwilling to admit there was a problem, even after losing with a pathetic performance to Northern Ireland. He should have seen that HIS tactics were not working and changed things around.
How do you think he's managed to pull all the fit totty in his life ? Don't be fooled by his charms

I agree with these points totally. But what manager doesn't make mistakes, and never admit to them. And how could he with the power of the press? To sack a manager because he shows no emotion is very strange though. To employ a manager who then immediately sucks up to the press is equally as strange.