[Tsunami]

BS has signed a 3 year deal. What do you think?

Personally, I am hopeful he can take the club forward although in the short term it may be a little painful. I expect to see an awful lot of turnover with the players.

[rio1981]

I'm shocked! I honestly didn't see it coming!

[DJT75]

I think it's a sensible appointment, there really is no-one else out there available who given the financial backing could actually end the 52 years of nowt. It may not be the best to what but I think the toon now have to start thinking about achieving something instead. Good luck to him & good luck to the toon I say.

[Tsunami]

Originally Posted by rio1981

I'm shocked! I honestly didn't see it coming!

You been living in a shed?

I asked the question as we all thought it would happen but now it is official. We are serial under-achievers & have a history of bad decisions on managers. Sam is a bit of a shot in the dark & for once we have gone for ambition from someone who hasn't won anything as opposed to a manager who was won things (Roeder is an exception) but did so with clubs that were used to winning things & where things had since gone wrong for them.

Sam seems to want to win things & I expect he will soon give the hook to those players who don't share his ambition & are simply there for the ££££££'s. We have more than our fair share of those.

Ok ! so Allardice is now back in work. Thats funny as i distincly heard him say that he was taking time out to spend with his family and was going to have a rest. Smells fishy to me as i recon he had been poached and was told to keep quiet untill his official appointment.


Who is going to be the new manchester city boss ? Paul Jewel , Sven ?????

[rio1981]

Nah, was only joking, seemed only a matter of time and a natural appointment - a good day for the Toon I feel (as much as I personally dislike Sam...)

[Greg]

Hopefully he will be given the time to rebuild the squad and turn them back into the team they should be. It won't happen next year or maybe even the one after, but the board need to keep that in mind and not sack him next season if they are stuggling mid table.

Originally Posted by hunkychunky1

Ok ! so Allardyce is now back in work. Thats funny as i distincly heard him say that he was taking time out to spend with his family and was going to have a rest. Smells fishy to me as i recon he had been poached and was told to keep quiet untill his official appointment.

He did have time off, about two weeks!

[BrianC]

Originally Posted by Greg

Hopefully he will be given the time to rebuild the squad and turn them back into the team they should be. It won't happen next year or maybe even the one after, but the board need to keep that in mind and not sack him next season if they are stuggling mid table.

He did have time off, about two weeks!

Will the board or the fans give him the time though? Especially if he has plenty of cash to spend in the summer?

[Greg]

Originally Posted by BrianC

Will the board or the fans give him the time though? Especially if he has plenty of cash to spend in the summer?

Well hopefully they will have the intelligence to realise that Sam isn't going to suddenly turn Newcastle into a top 6 side overnight. Plus I don't think Newcastle have loads of cash to splash about either. But if the fans and board want instant results then we will be seeing another manager not last a season at Newcastle, because it won't happen. You can't polish a turd.

[sdb123]

I agree with the comments above. IMO the problem will be meeting Freddy Shepherd's (unrealistic) expectations...

[Steve_R]

Wouldn't have been top of my list but now he's here I guess I've got to hope for the best. If nowt else he should improve our backroom set-up - by all accounts it is a bit limited.

[overkill]

Originally Posted by Greg

Well hopefully they will have the intelligence to realise that Sam isn't going to suddenly turn Newcastle into a top 6 side overnight. Plus I don't think Newcastle have loads of cash to splash about either. But if the fans and board want instant results then we will be seeing another manager not last a season at Newcastle, because it won't happen. You can't polish a turd.

Can't argue with that. This has been the problem, over optimistic, over expectant fans, and an under achieving, lacking in ambition team - and board. A very bad combination.

Hopefully Sam will be (for a change on Tyneside) given time and room to build a Newcastle side that can win things. Would be about time!

[sunderland]

glad he has got it,6 points for us next season now

[sleepyone]

It's going to take 2 or 3 years to turn that team around.

Unless he's given silly money can't see more than 3 or 4 playeres moving on this summer and the same number coming back in, too much disruption to the team otherwise. That's as long as he can keep the good players he has, the strikers especially if he can get a fit Owen playing again.

Same again after next season 3 or 4 players in/out.

The 'castle fans arn't stupid, if they see any improvment next season they will support him. Once it gets into the 2nd season with him in charge it might be differnet story if they are still squabiling over mid-table with the 'smaller' teams.

Priorty for this summer wil be defenders though, wonder what his first thought was when he looked down the current squad list and saw Bramble

[Geordie Bry]

Originally Posted by sunderland

glad he has got it,6 points for us next season now

and then u woke up my friend

[sdb123]

Originally Posted by sleepyone

Priorty for this summer wil be defenders though, wonder what his first thought was when he looked down the current squad list and saw Bramble

Probably "Ben Haim's contract runs out next month, I'll get him in sharpish".

[TameRacingDriver]

Personally I'm well happy about this...

He's the right man at the right time....

But the fans and the club REALLY need to give him time, and not just one or even two seasons. He needs at LEAST three seasons probably more to turn things around good and proper.

Its good that the likes of Kieron Dyer will now get their arses kicked. Too many muppets at that club now that need a boot up their backside.

[danaldinho7]

Originally Posted by pbirkett

Personally I'm well happy about this...

He's the right man at the right time....

But the fans and the club REALLY need to give him time, and not just one or even two seasons. He needs at LEAST three seasons probably more to turn things around good and proper.

Its good that the likes of Kieron Dyer will now get their arses kicked. Too many muppets at that club now that need a boot up their backside.

too many mercanaries on 60k a week driving ferraris not giving a **** about football

newcastle should be fighting for the cl with their squad unfrotuantely they'd rather collect their pay cheque than collect medals

[johnscarlet]

Its kind of ironic that on the day Newcastle announce Big Sam , former coach Kevin Bond launched legal proceedings against Newcastle . Bond was "let go" after the same Panorama programme that featured Sam and Sam Jr Explain that in court Freddie

[Squiffy]

Originally Posted by sleepyone

The 'castle fans arn't stupid, if they see any improvment next season they will support him. Once it gets into the 2nd season with him in charge it might be differnet story if they are still squabiling over mid-table with the 'smaller' teams.

Unfortunately, the Newcastle fans are extremely impatient, and your post shows it. Short-termism has been the blight that has ruined your club.

There are deep seated problems, and to expect them to finish above mid-table in season 2 is still pretty optimistic. If I were a Toon fan, I'd be happy for season 2 to be comfortable in mid-table, do well in the cups, as long as they were building a platform for future success.

Newcastle aren't a top 4 (or possibly even 7) club, so Toon fans need to manage their expectations. Big Sam isn't going to win the league within the next three seasons.

[Tsunami]

Originally Posted by Squiffy

Newcastle aren't a top 4 (or possibly even 7) club, so Toon fans need to manage their expectations. Big Sam isn't going to win the league within the next three seasons.

They aren't at top 4/ 7 team at the moment but they are certainly a top 4/ 7 club.

Newcastle supporters managing expectations & being impatient is a bit of a paradox - we haven't won a domestic trophy in over 50 years . We have earnt the right to expect something - but I take your point. We will never expect to win the league.

Sam will be given time but, it is a big club, with high revenue & expectation. If, by the end of the 2nd season, the fans do not see a light at the end of tunnel he will do well to see out his contract. We are used to failure, so we can see it coming quicker than most.

[GBDG1]

Big Sam has done exactly what is needed:

5 Players Depart:

http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?...football_home&

including... Bramble, Craig Moore, Olivier Bernard and keeper Pavel Srnicek... There will be a Party on the toon tonight.

[sleepyone]

He's given himself a big job though.

Has to get in almost a complete defensive unit and get them playing before the start of next season. Probably still play better that the lot he's just got rid of though


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[Tsunami]

Here's hoping that he can also attract buyers for Babayaro & Carr. There's talk of JL Samuel & Sol Campbell - not sure if they are the answer but we desperately need a good few new faces in to help sort out the back line.

[overkill]

Originally Posted by Lawrenzini

Big Sam has done exactly what is needed:

5 Players Depart:

http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?...football_home&

including... Bramble, Craig Moore, Olivier Bernard and keeper Pavel Srnicek... There will be a Party on the toon tonight.

Blimey, that was quick! Mind you he's seen how terrible they when Bolton have played Newcastle! That Bramble is the worst defender I've seen in years. Even Gus Caesar was better than him!

[Steven]

Dammit. I love playing against Bramble on Pro Evo!

[Squiffy]

Originally Posted by Tsunami

They aren't at top 4/ 7 team at the moment but they are certainly a top 4/ 7 club.

On what basis are they a top 4 or 7 club? As your own next paragraph said, you haven't won a domestic trophy in fifty years. Just having big crowds / revenues does not make you a top 7 club, let alone a top 4 club.

[overkill]

Originally Posted by Squiffy

On what basis are they a top 4 or 7 club? As your own next paragraph said, you haven't won a domestic trophy in fifty years. Just having big crowds / revenues does not make you a top 7 club, let alone a top 4 club.

Good point. Burnley in the 60's, Derby in the 70's, and Forest in the 70's and 80's are all 'smaller' clubs than Newcastle, but they were all 'top five' material on the basis that they won things, and finished there or thereabouts on a reasonably regular basis.

Just having big support doesn't mean you are a 'top five' club.

[Woodywizz]

Originally Posted by overkill

Good point. Burnley in the 60's, Derby in the 70's, and Forest in the 70's and 80's are all 'smaller' clubs than Newcastle, but they were all 'top five' material on the basis that they won things, and finished there or thereabouts on a reasonably regular basis.

Just having big support doesn't mean you are a 'top five' club.

Man City being another prime example of this

[overkill]

Originally Posted by woodywizz

Man City being another prime example of this

I don't think even the most insane City fan would claim they were!