[jelly]

easily thierry henry is the best footballer in the world, but why hasnt he won it? i think he would have won it if he had left last season but sadly may never will win it now. which is a shame because i and may others think hes the greatest

[Woodywizz]

His skill is without question and he is a class act, I would love him in our squad. He's not really hit the heights of the last couple of seasons yet but he is quality.

[overkill]

Originally Posted by woodywizz

His skill is without question and he is a class act, I would love him in our squad. He's not really hit the heights of the last couple of seasons yet but he is quality.

Thank you Woody! That must have hurt after todays result! Nice one m8!

[Woodywizz]

Originally Posted by overkill

Thank you Woody! That must have hurt after todays result! Nice one m8!

Yes it hurt today but we are still 6 points clear - so heh hum.

Fancy swapping Henry for Saha??? - Louis has even had his head shaved, ala Henry, in preparation for the move - you will not notice the difference.....promise

[carlsarrou]

hi guys,
Thierry Henry is going to get better as the season comes to a finale. The rest that Wenger gave him seems to have done him the world of good. Since coming back he has scored 4 goals in 4 games. Even though he was out of the game for periods today (down to the quality marking of Vidic/Ferdinand/etc) he still manages to pop up in the 93rd minute to score a header !!! A header, the man only scores 1 header a season and that was it.
If the Arsenal cant mount a good run in off of the back of a win against United then they dont deserve nothing.
But being the optomistic gooner i am,, i think it'll start with putting the old enemy out of the Carling Cup, then doing over Bolton in the FA Cup.

Chelsea are wobbling, MAN United have got a very hard run-in with Liverpool, Chelsea and Portsmouth away. Liverpool although their league form of late has been good, after a mauling at the hands of Arsenal then the Kids have only really beaten the PREM whipping boys "watford" and a woeful chelsea.
The run in could be the best for years.
BUT even the most optomistic Arsenal Fan will say that winning the title is beyond our reach.

[overkill]

Originally Posted by woodywizz

Fancy swapping Henry for Saha??? - Louis has even had his head shaved, ala Henry, in preparation for the move - you will not notice the difference.....promise

You know, I think I'll pass..............

[Woodywizz]

Originally Posted by overkill

You know, I think I'll pass..............

I wish Saha would adopt that attitude at times.

[Steve.EX]

Originally Posted by woodywizz

I wish Saha would adopt that attitude at times.

Henry is a magnificent player.

C'mon you Hammers!

[Abbeygoo]

Henry is the best player in the Premiership at the moment and could even lay claim to being the best player ever seen in our top league.

I thought he was a tad unlucky not to win the World Footballer of the Year but Ronaldinho was always a knocking bet for that, I suppose it came down to whoever won the Champions League final.

And whoever said United have a difficult run in forgot to mention that in addition to playing away at Liverpool, Chelsea and Portsmouth - they have to come to City next to last game!!

Ooohh, another win for the Blue boys with Chelsea clinching the title on that day - the joy!

Or they could relegate us and win the title on the same day.

[smackos]

Originally Posted by jelly

easily thierry henry is the best footballer in the world, but why hasnt he won it? i think he would have won it if he had left last season but sadly may never will win it now. which is a shame because i and may others think hes the greatest

Your probably right, for whatever reason the powers that be seem to prefer giving that particular title to players who are being over hyped on past performances. In Particular I think Nedved(a very fine player) won the award at the end of a season AFTER he had already peaked in the Previous one, anyone that watches Serie A would probably agree with that.

They also seem to go for La Liga players almost as a matter of course, an example being Zinedine Zidane who still managed 2nd place in the list this year (presumably for giving the world the funniest head butt of all time ) without managing to win any domestic or international honours with his club or international team.. with the likes of John Terry and Henry far more deserving candidates.

After all that though I'd say they were probably right in giving this years award to Cannavaro.. what more in football can you do than captain your country to the world cup trophy??

[Steven]

Simply an awesome player. He scores with both feet. With his head. Creates. Captain of his team. Won all domestic cups with Arsenal. All time top scorer for Arsenal. 3rd all time Premiership top scorer. He'll have topped Andy Cole this time next season minimum. Only 91 or so from Shearer. Who's to put it past him? He is the top scorer in the Premiership for the past 4 seasons. A legend and its an honour to be able to watch him play. In answer to the thread title... erm... umm hmmm

Righty-ho, I'm leaving before I get more turncoat accusations

[Eddy.]

He needs to start doing lots of pointless flicks and tricks in the middle of matches for no apparent reason.

It worked for Ronaldinho

[thfccambs]

Maybe if he played for one of the country's top teams he would of won it by now.

[Steven]

Thread crapping is considered rude y'know

[thfccambs]

Originally Posted by LFC_SL

Thread crapping is considered rude y'know

I know that's not aimed at me

[jelly]

Originally Posted by hunts1uk

I know that's not aimed at me

lol, bet u wish we stayed in woolwich eh ? then youd be the best team in norf landan

[DJT75]

I thought Henry was incredibly ordinary yesterday, uninspiring for his team mates & a disgrace on 2 occasions, so find it a little strange that this thread would even be started up after an appearance like that.

How Sky gave him Man of the Match is quite unbelievable - the only Arsenal player who looked even slightly interested yesterday was Fabregas & even then an Arsenal player didn't deserve to win it just because they scraped a late couple of goals.

As for the comment about being the best player in the premiership at the moment - erm.....not seen Ronaldo this past 6 months then?

Henry on his day can be the best player in the world but being anonymous for 90mins then scorer a winner doesn't win you World Player of the Year awards I'm afraid.

[po_man]

Originally Posted by DJT75

I thought Henry was incredibly ordinary yesterday, uninspiring for his team mates & a disgrace on 2 occasions, so find it a little strange that this thread would even be started up after an appearance like that.

How Sky gave him Man of the Match is quite unbelievable - the only Arsenal player who looked even slightly interested yesterday was Fabregas & even then an Arsenal player didn't deserve to win it just because they scraped a late couple of goals.

As for the comment about being the best player in the premiership at the moment - erm.....not seen Ronaldo this past 6 months then?

Henry on his day can be the best player in the world but being anonymous for 90mins then scorer a winner doesn't win you World Player of the Year awards I'm afraid.

Come on DJ, we all know you have a personal grudge against our man (and team) !!!
Agree though that he didn't have the greatest game yesterday but he still did a lot of work off the ball so i think you're being a little unfair.
I think a better choice for Man of the Match though was Fabregas. Absolutely sensational in midfield. For me, the boy just gets better and better!

[DJT75]

Originally Posted by po_man

Come on DJ, we all know you have a personal grudge against our man (and team) !!!
Agree though that he didn't have the greatest game yesterday but he still did a lot of work off the ball so i think you're being a little unfair.
I think a better choice for Man of the Match though was Fabregas. Absolutely sensational in midfield. For me, the boy just gets better and better!

I have nothing against Henry at all, think he's a great player but yesterday, from where I was sitting. he really did do absolutely nothing, there were 19 other outfield players better than him yesterday. When the camera showed Fabregas (someone I can't stand by the way) waving his arms around trying to get the troops up for the last 20mins, Henry was still sulking around. He showed no leadership whatsoever yesterday, other than how to cheat a little.

[DJT75]

& this from probably still one of the best critics around, who normally worships Arsenal & Henry at every given opportunity...


Henry breathes life into title chase
By henry Winter at the Emirates Stadium
Last Updated: 3:54am GMT 22/01/2007

Arsenal (0) 2 Manchester United (0) 1

Sometimes football moves in very mysterious, very mischievous ways. Just when Manchester United were preparing to celebrate a victory that would have brought the title within touching distance, Arsenal knocked the Champagne and cigars out of their hands.


The late show: Thierry Henry's injury-time winner stunned United
The story of United leaving Ashburton Grove empty-handed, following long spells in control, can only be told through the visitors' rare defensive lapses and the remarkable resilience of the hosts. Arsenal just refused to give up, echoing the great trait of United under Sir Alex Ferguson. "Football, bloody hell!" as someone famously once remarked.

The last chapter of yesterday's initially nondescript drama really was a tale of the unexpected. With seven minutes remaining, United were contemplating a nine-point lead over Chelsea, a dishevelled force at Anfield on Saturday when they looked one over the eight.

All Chelsea's lofty ambitions to take over the world seemed like a cocktail of folly and fantasy, the club of Jose Mourinho, Roman Abramovich and unhealthy tension simply being too riddled with black holes and revelations to be considered potential masters of the universe.

As the 83rd minute was reached at the Emirates Stadium, with United leading through Wayne Rooney's header and seemingly content to run down the famous clock, too many question marks clung to second-placed Chelsea. The only question for United was whether Paul Scholes (pictured), whose innate shyness dissolves when the ball is at his clever feet, would turn up to collect his Footballer of the Year honours from the media.

advertisementThe Premiership race was surely run. Rooney was revitalised, Scholes majestic, Nemanja Vidic and Patrice Evra unbeatable. Arsenal were still a work in progress, Chelsea left to concentrate on the Champions League. Extraordinarily, the fates decided to toy with United's emotions, deflating them and breathing life into the title race.

How fortune can turn in seconds. Take Evra. United's full-back had been outstanding for 83 minutes, electric down the left, even creating Rooney's goal just after the break. But then he was caught out by Tomas Rosicky, whose cross was rammed home by Robin van Persie.

How the pendulum swings. Rosicky had disappointed until then, wasting shooting chances and utterly eclipsed in midfield by Scholes and Michael Carrick. But one determined run, one fine delivery and Rosicky's stock rose to cloud nine.

Lady Luck was now smiling on Arsenal, and utterly deserting Vidic. United's tall Serb had been a colossus, repelling everything on the ground and in the air, proving the very model of the muscular, mobile modern centre-half.

Yet when Emmanuel Eboue sped past Evra deep into injury time, Vidic lost Thierry Henry, whose header thudded into the net like an arrow into United's heart. Again the sporting gods were in quixotic mood. Henry himself had done nothing of note until then, apart from heading straight at Edwin van der Sar in the first half. But the dauphin of the grand flourish produced one moment of marvellous athleticism and timing, climbing high to his head into the headlines. Abramovich has always admired Henry, even bidding £50 million for the elegant predator, and the Russian's regard will have intensified yesterday. Henry, and Van Persie, have kept Chelsea's title dream alive.

As if to emphasise how fickle football can be, Henry's goal was created by Eboue, who had been more likely to end up with a red card, for harassing Rooney, than a thank you card from Henry. With Henry jubilant, Arsenal celebrated the three points as if they had just done the grand slam of Premiership, Boat Race and Tour de France.

As Arsenal danced their jigs of glee, United were left to lick their wounds. Under such an experienced manager as Ferguson, Scholes and company will simply put defeat down to a bad day at the office. United suffered a bloody nose yesterday, but still finished the weekend a goal better off than Chelsea, and goal difference could still prove decisive.

What events at Anfield and here showed is that Liverpool and Arsenal can give anyone a game, and they may prove formidable challengers next season when the Premiership chase could blossom into a four-thoroughbred affair.

The fact that it remains a two-horse race is still a surprise given United's early dominance. Only the excellence of Jens Lehmann kept the scores level at the break, particularly with a tip-over reaction to a Rooney thunderbolt and then a fabulous close-range save to deny Henrik Larsson.

United's class told. Seven minutes after the break, Scholes and Cristiano Ronaldo sent Evra flying down the left. His cross clipped Kolo Toure, and hurtled to the far post where the stooping Rooney headed United in front. Ferguson's reaction was a treat; the Scot initially resembled a cross-Atlantic oarsman clambering gingerly ashore before finding his feet and punching the air in celebration.

Touches of gamesmanship stained United's play, Ronaldo going down clutching his face and Van der Sar wasting time at goal-kicks. More impressive tactics were deployed in frustrating Arsenal, notably Vidic nicking the ball off Henry, and then twice heading clear as the hosts hoisted long balls towards Emmanuel Adebayor.

But the red tide was building, and Van Persie and Henry came calling to devastating effect. United were stunned, and Ferguson's handshake with Arsene Wenger could not have been shorter. Jose Mourinho at last had something to smile about. The chase continues.

Match details

Arsenal (4-4-2): Lehmann; Eboue (Hoyte 90), Toure, Senderos, Clichy; Hleb (Van Persie 67), Fabregas, Flamini (Baptista 79), Rosicky; Adebayor, Henry.
Subs: Almunia (g), Denilson.
Booked: Toure.
Manchester United (4-2-3-1): Van der Sar; Neville, Ferdinand, Vidic, Evra; Scholes, Carrick; Ronaldo (Heinze 89), Giggs, Rooney; Larsson (Saha 81).
Subs: Kuszczak (g), Brown, Fletcher.
Booked: Giggs, Evra, Ronaldo.
Man of the match: Patrice Evra (Manchester United).
Referee: S Bennett (Kent).

[po_man]

Originally Posted by DJT75

I have nothing against Henry at all, think he's a great player but yesterday, from where I was sitting. he really did do absolutely nothing, there were 19 other outfield players better than him yesterday. When the camera showed Fabregas (someone I can't stand by the way) waving his arms around trying to get the troops up for the last 20mins, Henry was still sulking around. He showed no leadership whatsoever yesterday, other than how to cheat a little.

I'm sorry DJ but anyone who's kinda up to date on your views will know full well that Henry, Arsenal et al is/are a player/team that you "detest"
Again, I don't know anyone who dislikes Fabregas (other than Spurs fans perhaps) yet he is a player that you "can't stand".

Still, each to their own ...

[DJT75]

Originally Posted by po_man

I'm sorry DJ but anyone who's kinda up to date on your views will know full well that Henry, Arsenal et al is/are a player/team that you "detest"
Again, I don't know anyone who dislikes Fabregas (other than Spurs fans perhaps) yet he is a player that you "can't stand".

Still, each to their own ...

I can't stand Arsenal for the way they are & the way their manager is, but I respect their football more than any team I've every seen in the Premiership.

Christ, if Liverpool ever played football like that I'd be walking around with a constant boner.

But, I detest Man U for obvious reasons just as much so it has nothing to do with Henry - I'm merely pointing out it was worthless (imo) yesterday until the 92nd minute.

As for Fabregas, well it didn't exactly take him long to join the clan of moaning, mouthy, whinging, annoying little gits that the Arsenal team is generally full of. I don't anyone that LIKES the bloke apart from Arsenal fans I'm afraid but....each to their own (he has got a face you just wanna slap (in the nicest possible, non-agressive way) though

[po_man]

Originally Posted by DJT75

Christ, if Liverpool ever played football like that I'd be walking around with a constant boner.

[po_man]

Originally Posted by DJT75

Christ, if Liverpool ever played football like that I'd be walking around with a constant boner.

For that comment alone, i won't begrudge your comments on Arsenal!!!!

[DJT75]

Originally Posted by po_man

For that comment alone, i won't begrudge your comments on Arsenal!!!!

Good man

[carlsarrou]

i thought that all World Class Players could be anonymous for 92 mins then score the winner at the last gasp. Surely you would rather have that than to run the game for 90 mins and not score the winner.. Henry's absence was down to some quality defending by Man Utd. Thats why patrice evra was man of the match, Vidic was awesome and Gary Nevile(though it pains me to say it) was showing signs of how he should perform in an England Shirt.

[DJT75]

Originally Posted by carlsarrou

i thought that all World Class Players could be anonymous for 92 mins then score the winner at the last gasp.

Erm.....no, that's what ordinary players are for.

Originally Posted by carlsarrou

Surely you would rather have that than to run the game for 90 mins and not score the winner..

What, ever match? would you? Thierry Henry? The Arsenal faithful would be sleeping the whole 90mins rather than the standard 60.

[po_man]

The thing is though, as we've all agreed, Henry didn't have his most influencial game (barring his late goal) but i think that most of us can agree that 90% of the time he does delivers the goods.

I think a lot of credit has to go to the rear guard of Man Utd for keeping Henry quiet. Let's face it, they're not at the top of the league for having a poor defence.

And again, as most people will recognise, it's impossible to put in a World class performance week-in week-out and certainly since he came back from injury a few weeks ago, he really has been in top form.
3 out of 4 games (plus a late winner) will do for me!

[DJT75]

Originally Posted by po_man

The thing is though, as we've all agreed, Henry didn't have his most influencial game (barring his late goal) but i think that most of us can agree that 90% of the time he does delivers the goods.

I think a lot of credit has to go to the rear guard of Man Utd for keeping Henry quiet. Let's face it, they're not at the top of the league for having a poor defence.

And again, as most people will recognise, it's impossible to put in a World class performance week-in week-out and certainly since he came back from injury a few weeks ago, he really has been in top form.
3 out of 4 games (plus a late winner) will do for me!

Agreed - which means, injuries included - he's got little chance of winning this award this year.

He won't better last year, put it that way.

[po_man]

The only chance Henry has of winning the next World/European Player of the year will be if Arsenal win the Champions League - simple as that.

From here on in, he could have an incredible season but unless he wins the above mentioned Cup, he has no chance.

EDIT: and i DO mean chance. It seems to be doubley hard for any player from an English league to win any of these titles.