Swp

[Lateralus]

i think the lad is great and he is a terrific footballer, but i cant stop myself from thinking he is really foolish.

he scores a goal last night, gets a rush of blood to the head, and then goes and announces he doesnt want to leave chelsea at all and he is having a great time there.



one minute he is saying he needs more first team football, and now he is saying he likes sitting on the bench. i really REALLY want him to move elsewhere like portsmouth as harry seemed pretty interested in him last night on the highlights program, or even west ham where he is truely wanted. such a waste at chelsea.

what do you guys think?

[po_man]

How he can say he's "happy" i just don't know!
Since his move to Stamford Bridge he's barely played, lost his England place and hardly played back-to-back games since his arrival (think he's only played 2 games this season!!)

If i was a top Premiership footballer, I couldn't imagine feeling any worse than if i were in his shoe's. Surely every professional aspires to playing week-in week-out and achieving something in football. Sadly, all he'll be remembered for is being a £21m mis-fit - that's not a tag i'd personally like!

All i know is, he must be very content at just picking up his wages every week and doing jack for it!

[BrianC]

Maybe he just wants to push up his fee for moving? It has to be cheaper to move somebody who is unhappy at a club than somebody who is happy.

Or perhaps Chelsea isn't getting offered enough cash to sell him and he doesn't want to affect his standing within the team.

There could be loads of reasons why he said that he is happy at Chelsea that have nothing to do with wanting stay.

[overkill]

Originally Posted by BrianC

Maybe he just wants to push up his fee for moving? It has to be cheaper to move somebody who is unhappy at a club than somebody who is happy.

Or perhaps Chelsea isn't getting offered enough cash to sell him and he doesn't want to affect his standing within the team.

There could be loads of reasons why he said that he is happy at Chelsea that have nothing to do with wanting stay.

Could be. SWP wouldn't be the first or last player happy to be a 'bench warmer' in the prem era though.

[Kieron]

What else could he say - it was just the standard response to a question that shouldn't get asked.

[CFC1]

I think first and foremost, SWP's move from Man City was not based on footballing reasons, but on financial ones initially. He managed to secure his future in one fell swoop. Also I think Ian Wright played no small part in his decision to move south. It was interesting therefore, to hear his recent public condemnation of the way Chelsea were treating his son!

SWP was also fully aware of the difficulty he was going to face in getting a regular place ijn the team...remember at the time, as well as Joey Cole and Robben, Damien Duff was also at the club.

I agree that there might be a part of him that is accepting of his current predicament, but he is still fairly young I can understand it to a certain extent. When he looks at his opposition for the first team, he probably thinks "fair enough"... (for the moment). However, part of me wants him to stick it out for another season, because I honestly think that Robben will be away soon, and SWP will get his chance. Additionally, who knows what Mourinho will do next? If we were lucky enough to win the Champions League he could walk away.

I have a sneaky feeling that Mourinho likes SWP though. If he didn't rate him, why didn't he let him go in the summer instead of Duffer? Or then again, maybe he didn't give Jose as much grief about not playing, as discussed before.

I know that on the face of it, it appears that a move would be best for SWP, and I for one want him to be happy... and playing football... however, I certainly don't see him as an overpriced misfit, because he just hasn't had a chance.

We'll see what happens....

[kourosh]

Originally Posted by steveo46

i think the lad is great and he is a terrific footballer, but i cant stop myself from thinking he is really foolish.

he scores a goal last night, gets a rush of blood to the head, and then goes and announces he doesnt want to leave chelsea at all and he is having a great time there.



one minute he is saying he needs more first team football, and now he is saying he likes sitting on the bench. i really REALLY want him to move elsewhere like portsmouth as harry seemed pretty interested in him last night on the highlights program, or even west ham where he is truely wanted. such a waste at chelsea.

what do you guys think?

he will be down here(portsmouth) in the transfer window
to be fair if he has to play regular football for his own sake and most important England
we cant have a player like hm n the bench week in week out

[CFC1]

Originally Posted by kourosh

he will be down here(portsmouth) in the transfer window
to be fair if he has to play regular football for his own sake and most important England
we cant have a player like hm n the bench week in week out

Dont be greedy....we've already lent you Glen Johnson, haven't we?

[kourosh]

Originally Posted by CFC1

Dont be greedy....we've already lent you Glen Johnson, haven't we?

it wont be another lend we will buy him outright
i would also like to buy johnson outright he has been great..............but i did see in the paper that arsenal could be intersted in him as well

[CFC1]

Rest easy my friend.... no matter how much they offer, Arsenal..or any of our major competitors (Man Utd or Liverpool)...will never get any of our players! Indeed Portsmouth have more of a chance of getting him. Jose Mourinho really likes Harry and would indeed do him another favour...like Glen Johnson.

[kourosh]

i hope so,he has been excellent......he is great at going forward,ok defence wise he gets caught out now and again
but i think he has improved so much this season
also saw alves has been mentioned with chelski today(right back)

[CFC1]

Yeah, I saw the Alves link. I think Jose is too critical of the right backs he has got. Glen Johnson is great going forward , as you say, but is suspect at defending. But Mourinho himself bought Ferreira and he has also lost confidence in him. He has played Gereni at right back in recent weeks, but now appears to have lost confidence in him also... In the last couple of games, he has changed things around and played Michael Essien at right back! He doesn't know what he wants.... I think he will bring Johnson back next season and have another look at him.

[kourosh]

Originally Posted by CFC1

Yeah, I saw the Alves link. I think Jose is too critical of the right backs he has got. Glen Johnson is great going forward , as you say, but is suspect at defending. But Mourinho himself bought Ferreira and he has also lost confidence in him. He has played Gereni at right back in recent weeks, but now appears to have lost confidence in him also... In the last couple of games, he has changed things around and played Michael Essien at right back! He doesn't know what he wants.... I think he will bring Johnson back next season and have another look at him.

or the youngster at man city he looks a great prospect great at defending and great at attacking

[CFC1]

Originally Posted by kourosh

or the youngster at man city he looks a great prospect great at defending and great at attacking

I think Jose is more interested in defensive qualities... I think he is too much like Glen Johnson.

[po_man]

Originally Posted by CFC1

I think first and foremost, SWP's move from Man City was not based on footballing reasons, but on financial ones initially. He managed to secure his future in one fell swoop. Also I think Ian Wright played no small part in his decision to move south. It was interesting therefore, to hear his recent public condemnation of the way Chelsea were treating his son!

SWP was also fully aware of the difficulty he was going to face in getting a regular place ijn the team...remember at the time, as well as Joey Cole and Robben, Damien Duff was also at the club.

I agree that there might be a part of him that is accepting of his current predicament, but he is still fairly young I can understand it to a certain extent. When he looks at his opposition for the first team, he probably thinks "fair enough"... (for the moment). However, part of me wants him to stick it out for another season, because I honestly think that Robben will be away soon, and SWP will get his chance. Additionally, who knows what Mourinho will do next? If we were lucky enough to win the Champions League he could walk away.

I have a sneaky feeling that Mourinho likes SWP though. If he didn't rate him, why didn't he let him go in the summer instead of Duffer? Or then again, maybe he didn't give Jose as much grief about not playing, as discussed before.

I know that on the face of it, it appears that a move would be best for SWP, and I for one want him to be happy... and playing football... however, I certainly don't see him as an overpriced misfit, because he just hasn't had a chance.

We'll see what happens....

I can understand where you're coming from, but all i'm really asking is just how on earth can he be "happy" with the situation that he's in?

I have no doubt at at all that at the time of his transfer he had no idea what was in store for him at Stamford Bridge. I'm not saying that he's greedy or anything like that - no one could refuse an offer like the one that Chelsea made to him and i'm sure he saw it as an opportunity to enhance his name and to really shine on the big stage (and i certainly don't blame him for that).

I just feel that he hasn't been given a chance to show what he can do and surely he must be feeling bitter about that. It's all good and well saying he's only young, but 2 years [so far] is a long time in football.

And as kourosh says, i also feel that it's an absolute travesty that an English player of SWP's ability is just keeping the bench warm at SB